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mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:49 PM ET
I thought I read somewhere that oshue is going to have surgery that may prevent him from playing next season.
- WhiskeyMan


That would work out in the Caps favor then.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 9 @ 1:49 PM ET
Condolences to his wife and children. That is way too young.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jul 9 @ 1:50 PM ET
Nice article comparing Briere and Hextall as gm of the Flyers... good read.

https://brotherlypuck.com...nd-danny-briere-rebuilds/

- TheFreak


At the end of the day, there’s a big difference between “rebuilding” and just bobbing along in the ocean as a bubble team. At face value, the Flyers seem to be content as the latter. Rebuilding typically means crafting and developing the product towards an end goal. Not just a cheap marketing term or rally cry with no actual action.

Couldn't agree more at this point in time.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 9 @ 1:51 PM ET
I thought TK was a guy you build a team around?
- Flyfly

I love TK, but for the right price; which to me should be $8M for 6 years, the same contract that Buchnevich got from St. Louis. But if TK is going to ask for $9M+ for 8 years, there is no way the Flyers should pay that for a someone that will eventually become the 2nd line RW on this team.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 9 @ 1:55 PM ET
Statistically they were probably the two most similar forwards on the team last season. Laughton scored more on special teams, while Poehling had much better goals against results at 5on5.

https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL

Laughton
11:52 per game at 5on5
1.36 P/60 at 5on5
3.27 GA/60 at 5on5 (worst out of all Flyer forwards > 100 TOI)
48.9% faceoffs
5 PPP
8 SHP

Poehling
12:08 per game at 5on5
1.28 P/60 at 5on5
2.69 GA/60
49.2% faceoffs
2 PPP
4 SHP

- Feanor


Player CF% CF% rel
19 Scott Laughton 45.3 -8.1
22 Ryan Poehling 49.1 -3.1
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:59 PM ET
I love TK, but for the right price; which to me should be $8M for 6 years, the same contract that Buchnevich got from St. Louis. But if TK is going to ask for $9M+ for 8 years, there is no way the Flyers should pay that for a someone that will eventually become the 2nd line RW on this team.
- jd250


TK (27) is two years younger than Buchnevich (29). No way TK takes less than 8 years from the Flyers.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 9 @ 1:59 PM ET
serious question... what do you guys get out of ganging up on jd250 every day?

he certainly doesn't need me or anyone else to defend him - but I seriously wonder about the mind state of those who come on here daily to blindly dig on the guy just trying to talk hockey. even newcomers come here, get comfortable and just follow suit.

it's just really strange. are your real lives that empty, this is how you get your kicks? dude just gives his opinions on a message board. who the (frank) are any of you?

it's so weird to me.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:02 PM ET
Do you really need to make stupid and confrontational comments like this? You just embarrass yourself when you do this.
- jd250


None of us need to do anything on here. My statement is accurate backed up by the numerous posts you've made referencing that. You'll read something else or listen to a podcast soon and you'll go on a completely different path.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
None of us need to do anything on here. My statement is accurate backed up by the numerous posts you've made referencing that. You'll read something else or listen to a podcast soon and you'll go on a completely different path.
- MJL


you're obsessed...
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 9 @ 2:06 PM ET
None of us need to do anything on here. My statement is accurate backed up by the numerous posts you've made referencing that. You'll read something else or listen to a podcast soon and you'll go on a completely different path.
- MJL

All I did was post something DiMarco posted today, that's it! I have no idea if that lineup is accurate but I am concerned that no trades have been made this off-season, and worse, there are not even rumors of trades pending. Maybe given how Jones and Briere have been able to keep things quiet before a trade, this is a good thing. All I know is this Flyers lineup is good enough to be a bubble team, and that would be disastrous for this so-called rebuild. That is the only point I am making here. I have not changed this opinion at all since the off-season started.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 9 @ 2:08 PM ET
TK (27) is two years younger than Buchnevich (29). No way TK takes less than 8 years from the Flyers.
- mickel25

Yes, but as many have pointed out, TK will be 28 years old when his new contract kicks in. TK can only get 8 years from the Flyers, all other teams can only give him 7 years, so frankly the Flyers don't have to give him an 8th year.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 9 @ 2:08 PM ET
All I did was post something DiMarco posted today, that's it! I have no idea if that lineup is accurate but I am concerned that no trades have been made this off-season, and worse, there are not even rumors of trades pending. Maybe given how Jones and Briere have been able to keep things quiet before a trade, this is a good thing. All I know is this Flyers lineup is good enough to be a bubble team, and that would be disastrous for this so-called rebuild. That is the only point I am making here. I have not changed this opinion at all since the off-season started.
- jd250


and even if you did - who gives a sh!t? there aren't awards being handed out for not changing your mind.

i truly think some folks on here have a really sad life at home and they take it out on people here. grow the (frank) up
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:09 PM ET
All I did was post something DiMarco posted today, that's it! I have no idea if that lineup is accurate but I am concerned that no trades have been made this off-season, and worse, there are not even rumors of trades pending. Maybe given how Jones and Briere have been able to keep things quiet before a trade, this is a good thing. All I know is this Flyers lineup is good enough to be a bubble team, and that would be disastrous for this so-called rebuild. That is the only point I am making here. I have not changed this opinion at all since the off-season started.
- jd250


No, that's not all you did. You posted it and then stated you are starting to believe it. You're just incredibly easy to manipulate. I don't see the Flyers as a bubble team. I see them as bottom 12 or so in the league. If goaltending falters, worse.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 9 @ 2:09 PM ET
No, that's not all you did. You posted it and then stated you are starting to belive it. You're just incredibly easy to manipulate. I don't see the Flyers as a bubble team. I see them as bottom 12 or so in the league. If goaltending falters, worse.
- MJL


this is your life...
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jul 9 @ 2:10 PM ET
That will be the case with Konecny if they re-sign him, correct?
- MJL


One would expect TK should be 1RW and frankly MM would probably matchup better at 2RW to start.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:11 PM ET
Yes, but as many have pointed out, TK will be 28 years old when his new contract kicks in. TK can only get 8 years from the Flyers, all other teams can only give him 7 years, so frankly the Flyers don't have to give him an 8th year.
- jd250


That's not entirely true. If Konecny is traded, that team can sign him to an 8 year deal. You've been corrected on this a number of times.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 9 @ 2:13 PM ET
Yes, but as many have pointed out, TK will be 28 years old when his new contract kicks in. TK can only get 8 years from the Flyers, all other teams can only give him 7 years, so frankly the Flyers don't have to give him an 8th year.
- jd250


He can be acquired by another team and then get an 8 year deal from that team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:13 PM ET
One would expect TK should be 1RW and frankly MM would probably matchup better at 2RW to start.
- mikeyo27


It's not uncommon for top teams to have first line level players, playing on what is called the 2nd line. Some projected lineup does not change the level of player that Konecny is.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
Agreed - it was a good move. At worst you are picking at the same position in a much deeper draft.
- Flyfly


At the end of the day there's no guarantee that it would yield a higher quality player -- late 1sts are a 50/50 coin flip even in deeper draft years.

What it does guarantee is that whatever player they pick will be an additional year away from pro development. And for a team starved of talent, with a bunch of vets on long term deals who's primes are limited, that just isn't ideal.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 9 @ 2:17 PM ET
All I did was post something DiMarco posted today, that's it! I have no idea if that lineup is accurate but I am concerned that no trades have been made this off-season, and worse, there are not even rumors of trades pending. Maybe given how Jones and Briere have been able to keep things quiet before a trade, this is a good thing. All I know is this Flyers lineup is good enough to be a bubble team, and that would be disastrous for this so-called rebuild. That is the only point I am making here. I have not changed this opinion at all since the off-season started.
- jd250

disagree. they will finish last or next to last in their division is my prediction.

They are not a good team. Have way too many holes at all the key positions. Last season all the other teams poop the bed, yet they still missed the playoffs. All those teams will be better imo.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 9 @ 2:20 PM ET
At the end of the day there's no guarantee that it would yield a higher quality player -- late 1sts are a 50/50 coin flip even in deeper draft years.

What it does guarantee is that whatever player they pick will be an additional year away from pro development. And for a team starved of talent, with a bunch of vets on long term deals who's primes are limited, that just isn't ideal.

- Tomahawk

while we do not know, I bet at least one of those Col or Oilers 1st are dealt.

only in theory it will be higher. As you said if you do not make the correct pick it doesn't matter. That being said no issue with the trade as clearly, they didn't like anyone in that slot.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 9 @ 2:22 PM ET
disagree. they will finish last or next to last in their division is my prediction.

They are not a good team. Have way too many holes at all the key positions. Last season all the other teams poop the bed, yet they still missed the playoffs. All those teams will be better imo.

- hello it's me 2050


Real question. Is there a non-playoff team from last year that would swap overall roster/pipeline and cap status with the Flyers? I do not think there is.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:23 PM ET
Nice article comparing Briere and Hextall as gm of the Flyers... good read.

https://brotherlypuck.com...nd-danny-briere-rebuilds/

- TheFreak


It’s pretty spot on…I like the line of how the rebuild is “whatever they say it to be”…lol.
I don’t think the trading of the 32nd pick is as bad as he suggests, although I don’t think it’s a good thing either….they already had 3 picks that may be fairly early in the 2nd round…so Getting Edmontons wasn’t something I wanted to see but I guess it came down to how they saw their board at that point….it was a perfect ending to a disappointing first night of the draft if anything.
I’m still holding out hope that there’s more to his plan then loading up for next years draft…maybe I’m just hoping he actually has one.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 9 @ 2:25 PM ET
Real question. Is there a non-playoff team from last year that would swap overall roster/pipeline and cap status with the Flyers? I do not think there is.
- mickel25

calgary maybe off the top of my head? islanders?
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jul 9 @ 2:26 PM ET
serious question... what do you guys get out of ganging up on jd250 every day?

he certainly doesn't need me or anyone else to defend him - but I seriously wonder about the mind state of those who come on here daily to blindly dig on the guy just trying to talk hockey. even newcomers come here, get comfortable and just follow suit.

it's just really strange. are your real lives that empty, this is how you get your kicks? dude just gives his opinions on a message board. who the (frank) are any of you?

it's so weird to me.

- anti-lame


Maybe JD is wrong so often, and everyone but a select few see that, so they feel the need to correct him.
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