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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 9 @ 1:23 PM ET
On the merits of being top-heavy. I stole this from the interwebs :

This is the last five Cup champions with their top 4 caphits by position (on the left) versus the Leafs (on the right).

2024 FLORIDA G, F, F, D - TORONTO F, F, F, D.
2023 VEGAS F, D, F, D - TORONTO F, F, F, D.
2022 COLORADO F, D, F, F - TORONTO F, F, F, F.
2021 TAMPA G,D, D, F - TORONTO F, F, F, F.
2020 TAMPA F, F, D, D,- TORONTO F, F, F, F.

Notice something?

- GalacticStone


Pens were F, F, F, D in 2016 and F, F, F, G in 2017
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:26 PM ET
On the merits of being top-heavy. I stole this from the interwebs :

This is the last five Cup champions with their top 4 caphits by position (on the left) versus the Leafs (on the right).

2024 FLORIDA G, F, F, D - TORONTO F, F, F, D.
2023 VEGAS F, D, F, D - TORONTO F, F, F, D.
2022 COLORADO F, D, F, F - TORONTO F, F, F, F.
2021 TAMPA G,D, D, F - TORONTO F, F, F, F.
2020 TAMPA F, F, D, D,- TORONTO F, F, F, F.

Notice something?

- GalacticStone


Now do all the other teams that didn't win.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 9 @ 1:28 PM ET
Too many F's and not enough D's, just like Wedgie high school report card
- Symba007

Huh?

I don'ts gets it.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:30 PM ET
Huh?

I don'ts gets it.

- Atomic Wedgie

nut surprisings
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 9 @ 1:31 PM ET
On the merits of being top-heavy. I stole this from the interwebs :

This is the last five Cup champions with their top 4 caphits by position (on the left) versus the Leafs (on the right).

2024 FLORIDA G, F, F, D - TORONTO F, F, F, D.
2023 VEGAS F, D, F, D - TORONTO F, F, F, D.
2022 COLORADO F, D, F, F - TORONTO F, F, F, F.
2021 TAMPA G,D, D, F - TORONTO F, F, F, F.
2020 TAMPA F, F, D, D,- TORONTO F, F, F, F.

Notice something?

- GalacticStone


you wasted a lot of time gathering info thats probably not every insigntful?

but wait till this year its FFFF
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:32 PM ET
you wasted a lot of time gathering info thats probably not every insigntful?

but wait till this year its FFFF

- senstroll

but this is the year
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Jul 9 @ 1:36 PM ET
Mike Augello: Clark Leaves Leafs For Penguins
- mikeinbuffalo


Good riddance.

There hasn't been anything special about the Leafs drafting outside of the lottery picks.

Hopefully they hire somebody better and put their financial advantage to good use for once.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:38 PM ET
Good riddance.

There hasn't been anything special about the Leafs drafting outside of the lottery picks.

Hopefully they hire somebody better and put their financial advantage to good use for once.

- Rare_Jewel

Cowan looks like a solid pick so far
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 9 @ 1:40 PM ET
Cowan looks like a solid pick so far
- Symba007


Cowan is an excellent value pick, but the entire 2023 class is showing excellent development overall probably only fall a little short to 2003 and 2015 classes.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:45 PM ET
On the merits of being top-heavy. I stole this from the interwebs :

This is the last five Cup champions with their top 4 caphits by position (on the left) versus the Leafs (on the right).

2024 FLORIDA G, F, F, D - TORONTO F, F, F, D.
2023 VEGAS F, D, F, D - TORONTO F, F, F, D.
2022 COLORADO F, D, F, F - TORONTO F, F, F, F.
2021 TAMPA G,D, D, F - TORONTO F, F, F, F.
2020 TAMPA F, F, D, D,- TORONTO F, F, F, F.

Notice something?

- GalacticStone


I notice that the Leafs are not in the other column?!?!

Kinda what 50 and I have been saying relentlessly over the past few years. Just sayin.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Jul 9 @ 1:52 PM ET
Cowan looks like a solid pick so far
- Symba007


Or could be Robertson 2.0. Still a toss up.

Technically, Cowan was acquired via trading Sandin (another failed project). Keep that in mind.

We'll see how much he actually contributes to winning a Cup in time.

The totality of the Leafs non-lottery drafting has been rather unimpactful the past 8 years.
GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:55 PM ET
If by "notice something" you are referring to what some of us already knew and noticed years ago?
- Fakepartofme

90% of sports fandom is repeating the same things over and over.
GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:55 PM ET
Now do all the other teams that didn't win.
- Zezel

That's too much work for me. I'll pass it along to the guy I copy-pasted this from...
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Name the Traitors!, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 9 @ 1:56 PM ET
Or could be Robertson 2.0. Still a toss up.

We'll see how much he actually contributes to winning a Cup in time.

The totality of the Leafs non-lottery drafting has been rather unimpactful the past 8 years.

- Rare_Jewel

Cowan plays a much more physical game than Robertson. Well everyone does. but hes gonna get killed vs men
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Jul 9 @ 1:57 PM ET
Cowan plays a much more physical game than Robertson. Well everyone does. but hes gonna get killed vs men
- drexel


Yeah he looks pretty small and weak compared to the NHL average.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 9 @ 2:00 PM ET
That's too much work for me. I'll pass it along to the guy I copy-pasted this from...
- GalacticStone


I do notice the hot take that you can't win with a 10 million dollar player has gone quiet with no revision
Azuredoom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.14.2019

Jul 9 @ 2:01 PM ET
Scouts are scouts.. Leaf draft history has not been some stellar achievement.. They hit on some they miss on some.

shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Jul 9 @ 2:02 PM ET
I notice that the Leafs are not in the other column?!?!

Kinda what 50 and I have been saying relentlessly over the past few years. Just sayin.

- underhill14

When you say something relentlessly nobody listens.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:02 PM ET
Yeah he looks pretty small and weak compared to the NHL average.
- Rare_Jewel

Cowan is 1 inch shorter than Marner but 5lbs heavier (and only 19yrs old), he will be ok at 5'11" and 180 (should play at the NHL level closer to 190)
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
Yeah he looks pretty small and weak compared to the NHL average.
- Rare_Jewel


I know right? The guy looks like he's only 18!
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jul 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
Interesting move but really meh.

Need to sort out the Hakanpaa sitch soon here. Still long way to go before training camps open but still work to be done by Tre here with the roster.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:05 PM ET
I do notice the hot take that you can't win with a 10 million dollar player has gone quiet with no revision
- Zezel

what about 4 of them?
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 9 @ 2:07 PM ET
Yeah he looks pretty small and weak compared to the NHL average.
- Rare_Jewel


Being small is okay in many ways - it's about heart and courage. A Brendan Gallagher or a Darcy Tucker style would be nice. They weren't big but they did what it took to win. I think it's the smaller guys who just give up on plays that bother me the most. Martin St. Louis never gave up on plays.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 9 @ 2:07 PM ET
what about 4 of them?
- Symba007


They can win 4 times.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 9 @ 2:08 PM ET
Being small is okay in many ways - it's about heart and courage. A Brendan Gallagher or a Darcy Tucker style would be nice. They weren't big but they did what it took to win. I think it's the smaller guys who just give up on plays that bother me the most. Martin St. Louis never gave up on plays.
- Monkeypunk


St. Louis just gave up on Tampa Bay.
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