Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Being small is okay in many ways - it's about heart and courage. A Brendan Gallagher or a Darcy Tucker style would be nice. They weren't big but they did what it took to win. I think it's the smaller guys who just give up on plays that bother me the most. Martin St. Louis never gave up on plays. - Monkeypunk
That's what she said
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drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Name the Traitors!, AB Joined: 06.29.2006
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Cowan is 1 inch shorter than Marner but 5lbs heavier (and only 19yrs old), he will be ok at 5'11" and 180 (should play at the NHL level closer to 190) - Symba007
Marner doesnt hit and hes very good at avoiding them. Cannot compare |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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i remember having discussion about how Marner was going to get killed in this rookie season. |
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Most likely Cowan will be useless but if he's not, cool. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Yeah he looks pretty small and weak compared to the NHL average. - Rare_Jewel
He’s an inch shorter and 5lbs heavier than your glorious Marner lol |
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drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Name the Traitors!, AB Joined: 06.29.2006
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Being small is okay in many ways - it's about heart and courage. A Brendan Gallagher or a Darcy Tucker style would be nice. They weren't big but they did what it took to win. I think it's the smaller guys who just give up on plays that bother me the most. Martin St. Louis never gave up on plays. - Monkeypunk
nah just his team |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Cowan is 1 inch shorter than Marner but 5lbs heavier (and only 19yrs old), he will be ok at 5'11" and 180 (should play at the NHL level closer to 190) - Symba007
lol you beat me to stating this obviousness |
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Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 05.31.2021
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Cowan is 1 inch shorter than Marner but 5lbs heavier (and only 19yrs old), he will be ok at 5'11" and 180 (should play at the NHL level closer to 190) - Symba007
Marner does not have ideal NHL size. And everybody complains about how Marner is soft, weak, small etc. There is however a big difference between Marner and Cowan in terms of skill level. Marner overcomes it by producing more assists and points than 95% of the league. Don't see Cowan doing that. Not saying it's impossible but very unlikely.
There are 700+ NHL players. Very, very few of them survive being 5'10" or less. I think only 40ish players played 50 or more games being that size. It's a very tough road. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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nah just his team - drexel
He's probably the first guy to tell his boss to (frank) off and go somewhere else.
Right?
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Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 05.31.2021
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Being small is okay in many ways - it's about heart and courage. A Brendan Gallagher or a Darcy Tucker style would be nice. They weren't big but they did what it took to win. I think it's the smaller guys who just give up on plays that bother me the most. Martin St. Louis never gave up on plays. - Monkeypunk
It's not impossible but certainly a lot more difficult.
You take two players equally motivated but one is 6'4, 220 and the other is 5'10", 180 and they both go into a corner in the playoffs. There's only so much motivation that smaller player can have to overcome that type of difference, night after night, year after year.
That's why there are weight classes in boxing and MMA. It's an obvious, usually insurmountable advantage if both players are equally trained and motivated, which, they usually are. |
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drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Name the Traitors!, AB Joined: 06.29.2006
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He's probably the first guy to tell his boss to (frank) off and go somewhere else.
Right? - Scabeh
he put the pout in poutine. hey yo |
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underhill14
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Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool Joined: 06.02.2010
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When you say something relentlessly nobody listens. - shack67
Nobody listened before it crossed over into "relentless", so does it ever really matter? |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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he put the pout in poutine. hey yo - drexel
He had every reason to.
Got traded to the Rangers and helped them reach the Stanley Cup final. Not too shabby.
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Marner does not have ideal NHL size. And everybody complains about how Marner is soft, weak, small etc. There is however a big difference between Marner and Cowan in terms of skill level. Marner overcomes it by producing more assists and points than 95% of the league. Don't see Cowan doing that. Not saying it's impossible but very unlikely.
There are 700+ NHL players. Very, very few of them survive being 5'10" or less. I think only 40ish players played 50 or more games being that size. It's a very tough road. - Rare_Jewel
I was curious, so I ran the numbers.
52 last year.
And that's out of 552 players last year who played 50 or more games.
So let's say 1 in 11. |
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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From last blog:
So now all the talking heads who love to poop all over the Leafs will be saying how great the drafting in Toronto has been for the past years and how stupid the Leafs are for letting Wes Clark go to Pittsburgh - it is the Leafy way. lol - Cush29
He has made some decent drafts, but honestly, its not like he has hit home runs yet. There are many other orgs that have drafted far better. I never got why the Leafs just didnt go buy the best scouts from all the other orgs lol.
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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He had every reason to.
Got traded to the Rangers and helped them reach the Stanley Cup final. Not too shabby. - Scabeh
Because he was entitled to a spot on Team Canada?
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Because he was entitled to a spot on Team Canada? - Zezel
Because his own GM didn't vouch for him despite him being much better than a guy like Patrick Marleau.
Didn't he just win the Art Ross trophy the year before or something like that?
As I said, I don't blame him for telling Yzerman to (frank) off.
Canada won, all is good for fans like you and I. But from his standpoint, I get it. |
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Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON Joined: 12.22.2014
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He has made some decent drafts, but honestly, its not like he has hit home runs yet. There are many other orgs that have drafted far better. I never got why the Leafs just didnt go buy the best scouts from all the other orgs lol. - Archaic
Yep and the garbage article from the Star is talking about "gems" that he drafted - not a single one of them has played a (frank)ing NHL game yet.
Toronto sports media loves to hate the Leafs.
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Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON Joined: 12.22.2014
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Marner does not have ideal NHL size. And everybody complains about how Marner is soft, weak, small etc. There is however a big difference between Marner and Cowan in terms of skill level. Marner overcomes it by producing more assists and points than 95% of the league. Don't see Cowan doing that. Not saying it's impossible but very unlikely.
There are 700+ NHL players. Very, very few of them survive being 5'10" or less. I think only 40ish players played 50 or more games being that size. It's a very tough road. - Rare_Jewel
You know how everyone knows your full of poop?
Your comparing what Marner has done in the NHL to Cowan who has yet to play a game in the NHL and proclaiming that Cowan won't be able to do it.
Try doing everyone a favour and STFU. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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You know how everyone knows your full of poop?
Your comparing what Marner has done in the NHL to Cowan who has yet to play a game in the NHL and proclaiming that Cowan won't be able to do it.
Try doing everyone a favour and STFU. - Cush29
Please stop avoiding the site’s swear word filter thank you |
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Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON Joined: 12.22.2014
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Please stop avoiding the site’s swear word filter thank you - Dozzer
No problem
FYI on that one it was legit a fortuitous typo.
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Wow spain
Up 2-1 now.
16 year old scores |
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;) Joined: 08.30.2006
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I do notice the hot take that you can't win with a 10 million dollar player has gone quiet with no revision - Zezel
you need at least two of them.
Leafs have four of them,
could be their time eh! |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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No problem
FYI on that one it was legit a fortuitous typo.
- Cush29
lol it’s why I asked politely |
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: No, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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Please stop avoiding the site’s swear word filter thank you - Dozzer
damn former ref knows all the tricks in the book |
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