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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 10 @ 10:47 AM ET
What am I missing with the Trouba thing that everyone is blaming Drury for? He had a NTC change to a modified NTC. He is trying to improve the team by moving on from him. So because his wife has a residency and the couple is refusing to go somewhere else until that is done, Drury needs to be fired?? wtf man

And I don’t love Drury either but he shouldn’t be fired for this outcome

- Slimtj100


I still dont understand what is people's biggest complaint

that Drury didn't get rid of Trouba before July 1st so we'd have his money on July 1st, or that they treated Trouba crappy and now the "chemistry in the room" is forever broken
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 10 @ 10:47 AM ET
What am I missing with the Trouba thing that people are blaming Drury for? He had a NTC change to a modified NTC. He is trying to improve the team by moving on from him. So because his wife has a residency and the couple is refusing to go somewhere else until that is done, Drury needs to be fired?? wtf man

And I don’t love Drury either but he shouldn’t be fired for this outcome

- Slimtj100


He should not be fired. And if drury finds a team not on his NTC willing to trade for him then move him. Curious tho if dury communicated he was trying to trade him or trouba found out unexpectedly like goody
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 10 @ 10:49 AM ET
He should not be fired. And if drury finds a team not on his NTC willing to trade for him then move him. Curious tho if dury communicated he was trying to trade him or trouba found out unexpectedly like goody
- nyrangers2
I think this is whole situation is a reminder that GMs in sports can’t win under any circumstances with certain people.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 10 @ 10:54 AM ET
Trouba had to know that he could be very well be the scapegoat of the season ended the way it did. And two years in a row it was pretty weak at the end of the series. So I don’t beleive for e second he wouldn’t have expected something. Because hes the one whose clause got reduced to where you could move him. So I don’t buy that he was did dirty like people suggest. He can be pissed if he wants but Drury did nothing wrong here
Mtlca66
New York Rangers
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 12.31.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:59 AM ET
Trouba had to know that he could be very well be the scapegoat of the season ended the way it did. And two years in a row it was pretty weak at the end of the series. So I don’t beleive for e second he wouldn’t have expected something. Because hes the one whose clause got reduced to where you could move him. So I don’t buy that he was did dirty like people suggest. He can be pissed if he wants but Drury did nothing wrong here
- Slimtj100


Right, like it's legit built into his contract. Once that kicks in he has to know he's always an option to be moved.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 10 @ 11:02 AM ET
Right, like it's legit built into his contract. Once that kicks in he has to know he's always an option to be moved.
- Mtlca66

Especially if you couple Florida and NJ series together. To me Drury wants new leadership in the room. I think Trouba will get bought out if this doesn’t sort itself out (a trade) and the Troubas will be a Richard and make Drury do it that way
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 10 @ 11:02 AM ET
Trouba had to know that he could be very well be the scapegoat of the season ended the way it did. And two years in a row it was pretty weak at the end of the series. So I don’t beleive for e second he wouldn’t have expected something. Because hes the one whose clause got reduced to where you could move him. So I don’t buy that he was did dirty like people suggest. He can be pissed if he wants but Drury did nothing wrong here
- Slimtj100


when did we get all sensitive about trading, buying out and waivers players anyway




that's what this website has always been all about, now we care about feelings

this place has become more woke than the Athletic
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: AKA Nick, I wrote a song about Facebook Stalkin'
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 10 @ 11:05 AM ET
I still dont understand what is people's biggest complaint

that Drury didn't get rid of Trouba before July 1st so we'd have his money on July 1st, or that they treated Trouba crappy and now the "chemistry in the room" is forever broken

- jimbro83


Holding onto trouba might be a blessing in a sense, I say that because if we had traded him and then signed some jabroni for a 8 year 69 million dollar contract when the guy really deserves half of that would have had us all pissed off as well.

The devil you know versus the one you don't or something...
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 10 @ 11:11 AM ET
Holding onto trouba might be a blessing in a sense, I say that because if we had traded him and then signed some jabroni for a 8 year 69 million dollar contract when the guy really deserves half of that would have had us all pissed off as well.

The devil you know versus the one you don't or something...

- evitageN

The AAVs didn’t get overly crazy this year but the term guys got was definitely head scratching in some cases
VinnyP
New York Rangers
Location: Huntersville, NC
Joined: 10.02.2014

Jul 10 @ 11:12 AM ET
Enjoy your day guys.

Thanks for letting me rant this morning.

Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jul 10 @ 11:19 AM ET
if players will always play the way their chart says they will play, then "how they feel about something" isnt really relevant anyway
- jimbro83

I hate this stupid narrative that the locker room is ruined. It’s pure negative Nancy, media spin garbage. It’s all speculation and not a single player other than Goodrow has publicly made a statement about how “Drury handled things”. And can you blame Goodrow? He went from a cup contender to a bottom of the barrel team.


Blasphemy! It’s straight blasphemy I tell ya!
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 10 @ 11:23 AM ET
Enjoy your day guys.

Thanks for letting me rant this morning.

- VinnyP

I think Drurys vision and plan is still in the works, and it might be working. But patience is key (from people/fans). Think about the size aspect people clamor for, and realize how many kids he’s drafted recently that are big players. He’s made it a point to draft huge kids realizing that what wins in the playoffs. He’s had to band aid a few things because certain players haven’t panned out (kakko and Kravtsov mainly). He gets heat and rightfully so, but I’m trying to be fair to the guy and understand the time it takes to actually build a winner

I also think his eye balls are set on McDavid when he hits UFA and throw the Brinks truck at him. Blank check of sorts. Because that when Panarins money will be off the books and he can really use the cap lift to his advantage by then
NYR11
New York Rangers
Joined: 07.24.2021

Jul 10 @ 11:23 AM ET
Enjoy your day guys.

Thanks for letting me rant this morning.

- VinnyP


You're a good guy Vin and your opinions are welcomed. Post more regularly. It's refreshing to see you back. Even if we disagree on some things.

Have a solid rest of your day if we don't speak!
NYR11
New York Rangers
Joined: 07.24.2021

Jul 10 @ 11:31 AM ET
I think Drurys vision and plan is still in the works, and it might be working. But patience is key (from people/fans). Think about the size aspect people clamor for, and realize how many kids he’s drafted recently that are big players. He’s made it a point to draft huge kids realizing that what wins in the playoffs. He’s had to band aid a few things because certain players haven’t panned out (kakko and Kravtsov mainly). He gets heat and rightfully so, but I’m trying to be fair to the guy and understand the time it takes to actually build a winner

I also think his eye balls are set on McDavid when he hits UFA and throw the Brinks truck at him. Blank check of sorts. Because that when Panarins money will be off the books and he can really use the cap lift to his advantage by then

- Slimtj100


The Kravstov/Buch situation was a mess and a pretty bad decision by Drury. But what could Drury have done differently with Kakko? He was the consensus #2 pick and he just hasnt lived up to expectations. Don't think there is much Drury could have done differently with him except maybe force Quinns/Gallants hand to play him more in the beginning

I've been saying that last part for a while now. I really can see that as a possibility. Especially if Edmonton doesnt win in the next 2 years. We will have the cap space and I could see them throwing everything they can at him. And rightfully so. Would be something. But that's a conversation that's about a year and a half early
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 10 @ 11:44 AM ET
The Kravstov/Buch situation was a mess and a pretty bad decision by Drury. But what could Drury have done differently with Kakko? He was the consensus #2 pick and he just hasnt lived up to expectations. Don't think there is much Drury could have done differently with him except maybe force Quinns/Gallants hand to play him more in the beginning

I've been saying that last part for a while now. I really can see that as a possibility. Especially if Edmonton doesnt win in the next 2 years. We will have the cap space and I could see them throwing everything they can at him. And rightfully so. Would be something. But that's a conversation that's about a year and a half early

- NYR11

I think it’s relavant now because that why he isn’t signing any UFAs. McDavid will be the dumbest person alive to not hit the open market and Drury will be waiting for him with a barrel full of cash imo. He also needs another barrel for Laf and Shesty so his hands are somewhat tied right now

Lafreniere McDavid Perrault line could be epic


Just imagine the possibilities if both Kakko and Kravtsov panned out how they were expected to
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:48 AM ET
That's all great. But at the end of the day, it's just business. That money is better utilized elsewhere. And you can continue to complain about 10, 93, and 20...but they're not going anywhere. So it's a moot point.
- NYR11



You completely missed the point, do you want to keep a guy who shows up in the Playoffs or not?? He produced from the bottom six in the line up, which is what you want in the playoffs. This is the main reason the Rangers signed him in the first place. I didnt complain about the 3. I just posted their goals scored in the playoffs compared to his.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:51 AM ET
the theory that the Rangers won't make the playoffs next year because Panarin isn't great in the playoffs is funny
- jimbro83


Thats a backwards theory, It should read that the Rangers will make the playoffs next season cause he is as great regular season player.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:52 AM ET
Thank you for providing an example of exactly what Jan specifically asked us not to do. And first in the comments, too. #Commitiment.

- Tonybere



The guy needs RIF
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:56 AM ET
I have no hope.

Drury has destroyed a good thing.

I feel this way and it has nothing to do with failing to sign any UFA'S in 7/1/24. It also has nothing to do with Goodrow's contract now being off the books.

It is the methods used by Drury that has caused me to feel this way. His underhanded approach to moving his veterans out, especially his Captain will cause many of our players to think twice about their own futures playing for this guy.

I'm sorry you guys don't see it this way.

The Rangers are not making the playoffs next year. I know it's a tough pill to swallow, but Drury has destroyed our team chemistry.

I know it's a business, but our business decision maker needs to learn how to do his job better and treat his players with the respect they deserve.

Fire Drury today!

- VinnyP



Drury is an idiot and I think you are correct that some players will think twice about signing here in the fallout of Goodrow and Trouba. Dont worry about these guys understanding what you say, they have their pom poms in front of their faces and cant see a thing.

The Rangers will make the playoffs, Fox, Igor and Panarin will get them in no doubt, winning the Cup, thats another thing, if the top players figure it out OR you get crazy production from the bottom 6, they can win it.

This BS off season might help solidify the room, has happened before, we will soon see.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 10 @ 12:05 PM ET
You completely missed the point, do you want to keep a guy who shows up in the Playoffs or not?? He produced from the bottom six in the line up, which is what you want in the playoffs. This is the main reason the Rangers signed him in the first place. I didnt complain about the 3. I just posted their goals scored in the playoffs compared to his.
- Brukie


Brukie,

they have 8 million in cap space available and need to sign Lindgren and Schneider and then have extensions for igor and Lafreniere staring them in the face

they don't have the luxury of paying a 4th line center 3.6 mil per season and found a way out of it

people are overthinking this
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 10 @ 12:12 PM ET
I agree that Drury has been a terrible GM and should be fired. But I don’t think those things bc of how he handled Goodrow or Trouba.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 10 @ 12:25 PM ET
Brukie,

they have 8 million in cap space available and need to sign Lindgren and Schneider and then have extensions for igor and Lafreniere staring them in the face

they don't have the luxury of paying a 4th line center 3.6 mil per season and found a way out of it

people are overthinking this

- jimbro83



They have the Cap space now to sign Lindgren and Schneider. They will have to kick the can down the road till next year and figure Igor and Laffy out then.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 10 @ 12:27 PM ET
They have the Cap space now to sign Lindgren and Schneider. They will have to kick the can down the road till next year and figure Igor and Laffy out then.
- Brukie


I know they do, it's because they got lucky and got rid of Goodrow
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 10 @ 12:40 PM ET
I think it’s relavant now because that why he isn’t signing any UFAs. McDavid will be the dumbest person alive to not hit the open market and Drury will be waiting for him with a barrel full of cash imo. He also needs another barrel for Laf and Shesty so his hands are somewhat tied right now

Lafreniere McDavid Perrault line could be epic


Just imagine the possibilities if both Kakko and Kravtsov panned out how they were expected to

- Slimtj100



Imagine if the Queen had balls, she'd be King.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 10 @ 12:43 PM ET
I know they do, it's because they got lucky and got rid of Goodrow

- jimbro83


So the only way the Rangers will be able to sign Igor and Laffy is to buy out Trouba and hope the Cap goes up??
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