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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:56 AM ET
They aren't looking to trade Laughton. Plain and simple.

Guys like Seeler, Laughts, TK, Hathaway... they are "pros" and "Flyers" and will be counted on to transmit the culture forward. That's priority #1.

- Tomahawk


That is indisputable. With the noise out there, other GM's are aware of that and there is no doubt that they have received solid offers for Laughton. They're unwilling to move him unless blown away. Want to know why there are no concrete rumors out there floating around? The Flyers simply aren't open for business.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 10 @ 11:08 AM ET
That is indisputable. With the noise out there, other GM's are aware of that and there is no doubt that they have received solid offers for Laughton. They're unwilling to move him unless blown away. Want to know why there are no concrete rumors out there floating around? The Flyers simply aren't open for business.
- MJL


Well we know BUF was looking for a Laughts-type and were willing to massively overpay... safe to say that with the Flyers/Sabres recent trade history and DB being an ex-Sabre they would have had discussions.

Maybe they liked McLeod better... or maybe Danny told them to take a hike... or maybe Danny turned down a package with Savoie because he was too small lol.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 10 @ 11:09 AM ET
Yep, neither article mentions they are available but nothing really about teams interest.

the bolded cracks me up b/c Jonesy is on record the want trades to be fair for both sides

- Flyfly

My question is, what is an example of “overpaying” for Scott Laughton exactly? Can someone walk me through this, please?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:11 AM ET
that's pretty high really. what do they see !!!
- hello it's me 2050


It's ESPN so probably just last years season standings.
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Jul 10 @ 11:12 AM ET
Trading up in a draft is always possible, just not worth the price tag lol
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jul 10 @ 11:12 AM ET
That is indisputable. With the noise out there, other GM's are aware of that and there is no doubt that they have received solid offers for Laughton. They're unwilling to move him unless blown away. Want to know why there are no concrete rumors out there floating around? The Flyers simply aren't open for business.
- MJL


Wait. Lemme wrap my head around this. Are you saying that you think the Flyers front office is being less than truthful? I’m shocked!
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:12 AM ET
My question is, what is an example of “overpaying” for Scott Laughton exactly? Can someone walk me through this, please?
- roenick97


His value is a 2nd round pick in my opinion. AN overpay would be a 1st round pick.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jul 10 @ 11:13 AM ET
Well we know BUF was looking for a Laughts-type and were willing to massively overpay... safe to say that with the Flyers/Sabres recent trade history and DB being an ex-Sabre they would have had discussions.

Maybe they liked McLeod better... or maybe Danny told them to take a hike... or maybe Danny turned down a package with Savoie because he was too small lol.

- Tomahawk



Well that seems to be the new mantra. Talent be damned. It’s only size that matters.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 10 @ 11:14 AM ET
Sigh. Or it means they aren't seriously thinking about trading them.

You editorialized that they weren't receiving much interest. I 100% disprove that by pointing out what Briere said about Laughton specifically, you then move the goalposts to say you only meant now.

Black_Francis constantly wonders why people attack your points, saying he doesn't understand why. It is because you present certain facts (yes there are reports)and then present your own opinion (no interest) on those facts, as a fact.

For example, yes, there have been many reports that the Flyers are dangling Farabee, Frost, and Laughton. Most of them are just speculation based on what the team needs, and SHOULD do. You then present it as a fact that they are doing it and then further say they aren't receiving much interest. It is the second part that opens you up for debate, especially since, again, Briere stated specifically that Laughton received a lot of interest.

Briere, as far as I know, has never spoken about Farabee or Frost in that context. Only Laughton. That tells me that these "dangling" comments regarding Frost and Farabee are just speculation on the part of these sites to generate clicks.

Farabee and Frost may very well be the subject of discussions between Briere and other teams, it would be malfeasance on the part of Briere not to take calls on them. But even that is just speculation, just like all those articles.

The only fact is Laughton was getting offers and Briere turned them down.

- MBFlyerfan

I work with a guy like this. Huge heart. So nice. However, when you tell him he’s misunderstood something that was explained to him, his famous quote lately has been “Oh I understand perfectly”…when it’s very clear he doesn’t understand….
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jul 10 @ 11:14 AM ET
That is indisputable. With the noise out there, other GM's are aware of that and there is no doubt that they have received solid offers for Laughton. They're unwilling to move him unless blown away. Want to know why there are no concrete rumors out there floating around? The Flyers simply aren't open for business.
- MJL


The Flyers PR department has to be over the moon that Michkov decided to come over early, it extends the honeymoon period another year where nobody critically looks at their words vs actions (or nonactions). Another year of "culture" and "playing the right way". They will coast another year on comcast media/fan goodwill and low expectations. Low expectations alone doesn't get you a rebuild.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:16 AM ET
Trading up in a draft is always possible, just not worth the price tag lol
- SlNlSTER


But it basically never happens. Especially trading into the top 10 or top 5.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 10 @ 11:25 AM ET


Well that seems to be the new mantra. Talent be damned. It’s only size that matters.

- mikeyo27


The entire league seems to be trending that way again and the Flyers are more than eager to follow along.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 10 @ 11:32 AM ET
His value is a 2nd round pick in my opinion. AN overpay would be a 1st round pick.
- mickel25

Anything more is delusional on the side of Danny B but hey, let’s expect this guy to continue to age gracefully now that he’s 30…
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:37 AM ET
Anything more is delusional on the side of Danny B but hey, let’s expect this guy to continue to age gracefully now that he’s 30…
- roenick97


I agree. Let's expedite the rebuild.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 10 @ 11:44 AM ET
For what it’s worth, espn has the Flyers 19th in its way too early power rankings.

Nomansland. The Flyers love it here.

- StepfordSam


Well when ya run it back with exact same team sans Michkov for Atkinson, yeah 19 makes sense.

I can't believe we gotta sit through this sh!t again.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 10 @ 12:05 PM ET
My question is, what is an example of “overpaying” for Scott Laughton exactly? Can someone walk me through this, please?
- roenick97


it's a fair question honestly an not really sure. I am not in the camp that Laughton will bring you a first which is maybe why the Flyers haven't moved him.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 10 @ 12:07 PM ET
Trading up in a draft is always possible, just not worth the price tag lol
- SlNlSTER


It is possible but it rarely happens in the top 10. If the '25 draft is supposed to be as good as everyone claims it is going to cost even more to move into a position to get a truly elite talent. Flyers just don't have the ammo to get that high if they finish middle of the pack again.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 10 @ 12:08 PM ET
His value is a 2nd round pick in my opinion. AN overpay would be a 1st round pick.
- mickel25


agreed - pretty much where I see it as well.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 10 @ 12:11 PM ET
agreed - pretty much where I see it as well.
- Flyfly

could have sold high long ago for a much better return. flyers gonna flyer
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 10 @ 12:14 PM ET
could have sold high long ago for a much better return. flyers gonna flyer
- hello it's me 2050


I know... Culture, culture, culture!

If he is not moved this year or next they are resigning him. No way they let Scott go when things are turning around and the get competitive (if they even get competitive)
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 10 @ 12:16 PM ET
Sigh. Or it means they aren't seriously thinking about trading them.

You editorialized that they weren't receiving much interest. I 100% disprove that by pointing out what Briere said about Laughton specifically, you then move the goalposts to say you only meant now.

Black_Francis constantly wonders why people attack your points, saying he doesn't understand why. It is because you present certain facts (yes there are reports)and then present your own opinion (no interest) on those facts, as a fact.

For example, yes, there have been many reports that the Flyers are dangling Farabee, Frost, and Laughton. Most of them are just speculation based on what the team needs, and SHOULD do. You then present it as a fact that they are doing it and then further say they aren't receiving much interest. It is the second part that opens you up for debate, especially since, again, Briere stated specifically that Laughton received a lot of interest.

Briere, as far as I know, has never spoken about Farabee or Frost in that context. Only Laughton. That tells me that these "dangling" comments regarding Frost and Farabee are just speculation on the part of these sites to generate clicks.

Farabee and Frost may very well be the subject of discussions between Briere and other teams, it would be malfeasance on the part of Briere not to take calls on them. But even that is just speculation, just like all those articles.

The only fact is Laughton was getting offers and Briere turned them down.

- MBFlyerfan


Man, this is perfectly stated!!

I read here almost every day, but rarely post. This one deserved a shout out.

I do enjoy the humor as well. Example….”MJL’s: you checked off the stupidity box for the day. Now work on tomorrow’s”. So funny!! I’m not crapping on anyone, just love funny comments!!

Thanks!!

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
They aren't looking to trade Laughton. Plain and simple.

Guys like Seeler, Laughts, TK, Hathaway... they are "pros" and "Flyers" and will be counted on to transmit the culture forward. That's priority #1.

- Tomahawk

Do other teams put out the PR talk like this as well. “He’s a Flyer, play like a Flyer” or is this team the only one stuck in the 70s.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 10 @ 12:32 PM ET
My question is, what is an example of “overpaying” for Scott Laughton exactly? Can someone walk me through this, please?
- roenick97

Tanner Jeanott
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 10 @ 12:34 PM ET
I want to add to JD's comment about them not having received much interest since the deadline in Laughton.


That could be because the Flyers made the price so ridiculous that it basically scuttled any interest a team might have.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 12:42 PM ET
Do other teams put out the PR talk like this as well. “He’s a Flyer, play like a Flyer” or is this team the only one stuck in the 70s.
- ClaudeFather


Not sure but how many POHO newly hired, who has zero experience for a team that hasn't been relevant in over a decade, publicly states that his team is the gold standard of the NHL?
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