My question is, what is an example of “overpaying” for Scott Laughton exactly? Can someone walk me through this, please?
- roenick97

A 1st round pick would be an overpay
A blue chip prospect would be an overpay
A young top 6F/top 4D would be an overpay

A 1st round pick would be an overpay
A blue chip prospect would be an overpay
A young top 6F/top 4D would be an overpay
- mikeyo27

Yep and maybe that's the asking price.

Yep and maybe that's the asking price.
- MJL

See this is the key word and if you don’t get what you’re asking, maybe there should be room to haggle. Not keep this guy as his value inevitably drops.

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- ClaudeFather

Bet Tampa cringes every time they think of what they gave up for him compared to what they got for him.

https://youtu.be/o_k2t8pI1-U?si=asYQobxXNI24sM7r

I don’t know. Google suggested I watch this.

https://youtu.be/o_k2t8pI1-U?si=asYQobxXNI24sM7r

I don’t know. Google suggested I watch this.
- roenick97

I saw this the other day. It gives me hope that Farabee has some real value around the league.

https://youtu.be/o_k2t8pI1-U?si=asYQobxXNI24sM7r

I don’t know. Google suggested I watch this.
- roenick97

LOL, I just saw this today too...

Bet Tampa cringes every time they think of what they gave up for him compared to what they got for him.
- WhiskeyMan

bet they dont.

I saw this the other day. It gives me hope that Farabee has some real value around the league.
- MBFlyerfan

he has value no doubt. what is "real" value though in your eyes?

https://x.com/BroadStBull...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

lol...ryjo injured, JD injured. all prior to getting to philly.....

over or under 58 games for JD?

See this is the key word and if you don’t get what you’re asking, maybe there should be room to haggle. Not keep this guy as his value inevitably drops.
- roenick97

He is under contract through next season. I don't like waiting until next year but they have that option. No rush from the Flyers point of view. Why not ask for the world right now?

he has value no doubt. what is "real" value though in your eyes?
- hello it's me 2050

Ill take Krebs, another prospect and a 2nd.

Ill take Krebs, another prospect and a 2nd.
- MBFlyerfan

rather keep hi though depends on the prospect.

krebs hasnt shown much and can't see the flyers getting more out of him offensively. they have cates laughton and RP. Dont see a need for krebs as the main piece for joel

I have no issue moving or keeping joel. they have many other issues that need resolving.

he has value no doubt. what is "real" value though in your eyes?
- hello it's me 2050

That’s a great question. He’s still young and has a lot of talent. A 1st round pedigree. I would imagine his real value is on par with a bubble teams 1st rounder and perhaps a prospect who projects to play in the bottom 6.

Or

Another highly talented 1st round pick who may just need a change in scenery like maybe Rossi, Kakko, or Shane Wright (guys who should have the goods but ain’t getting their opportunities)

bet they dont.
- hello it's me 2050

They gave up a conditional first-round pick in the 2025 NHL Draft, a second-round pick in the 2024 NHL Draft, and a third-, fourth- and fifth-round pick in the 2023 NHL Draft.

And got back 2025 second round pick and this year's fourth rounder

Yes they cleared some room to sign guentzel. But they are getting to be an older team and could have used the draft picks.

They aren't looking to trade Laughton. Plain and simple.

Guys like Seeler, Laughts, TK, Hathaway... they are "pros" and "Flyers" and will be counted on to transmit the culture forward. That's priority #1.

So far the only roster players Briere has traded are Hayes, Provorov and Walker. Hayes couldn't play any more under Torts, Provorov's time was up in Philly for a variety of reasons, and Walker was a UFA apparently asking for 5 x $5m to stay even though he signed for significantly less in Carolina.

https://www.flyershistory.com/cgi-bin/trade.cgi

Basically, Briere has done very little to reshape the roster so far so it's Retool Time yet again in Philadelphia. For 24-25 the additions are Fedotov and Michkov and the subtractions are Hart and Atkinson. Everyone else is still here.

Well we know BUF was looking for a Laughts-type and were willing to massively overpay... safe to say that with the Flyers/Sabres recent trade history and DB being an ex-Sabre they would have had discussions.

Maybe they liked McLeod better... or maybe Danny told them to take a hike... or maybe Danny turned down a package with Savoie because he was too small lol.
- Tomahawk

That's disgustingly plausible.

You editorialized that they weren't receiving much interest. I 100% disprove that by pointing out what Briere said about Laughton specifically, you then move the goalposts to say you only meant now.

Black_Francis constantly wonders why people attack your points, saying he doesn't understand why. It is because you present certain facts (yes there are reports)and then present your own opinion (no interest) on those facts, as a fact.

For example, yes, there have been many reports that the Flyers are dangling Farabee, Frost, and Laughton. Most of them are just speculation based on what the team needs, and SHOULD do. You then present it as a fact that they are doing it and then further say they aren't receiving much interest. It is the second part that opens you up for debate, especially since, again, Briere stated specifically that Laughton received a lot of interest.

Briere, as far as I know, has never spoken about Farabee or Frost in that context. Only Laughton. That tells me that these "dangling" comments regarding Frost and Farabee are just speculation on the part of these sites to generate clicks.

Farabee and Frost may very well be the subject of discussions between Briere and other teams, it would be malfeasance on the part of Briere not to take calls on them. But even that is just speculation, just like all those articles.

The only fact is Laughton was getting offers and Briere turned them down.
- MbFlyerFan

It has been reported by multiple reputable sources, like Anthony DiMarco, Frank Seravalli and those on The Fourth Period that the Flyers have dangled these players. You can choose whether you want to believe those reports or not. I choose to believe them. Briere in fact has spoken abut Farabee, saying there is much more expected out of him than what he has given the Flyers so far. I'll let you find the recent interview where he said this.

Lets just cut to the chase. You, MJL and Tomahawk just want to come on this forum every single hour of the day and spew your narrative that the Flyers are stupid, everything they do is wrong, they are dysfunctional, Briere is over his head, Jones is just a color analyst, etc, etc, etc. Are these facts or just your opinions? Do you have any proof of your own that this is the case? Any articles from reputable sources that back up your claims? You can live in your misery all you want, have fun! As for me, I will continue to come on to this forum and talk hockey, and stay out of the insulting others business, which you and others seem to feast on in your lonely lives.

Ill take Krebs, another prospect and a 2nd.
- MBFlyerfan

Why Krebs? Enthroll us with your vast hockey knowledge. I think the kid Sucks and is going nowhere, prove me wrong.

I saw this the other day. It gives me hope that Farabee has some real value around the league.
- MBFlyerfan

Are you sure you can believe this fantasy video? Is this considered reputable enough for you??

A 1st round pick would be an overpay
A blue chip prospect would be an overpay
A young top 6F/top 4D would be an overpay
- mikeyo27

I think Laughton is worth up to a 2nd round pick to other teams, but I think the Flyers want a mid to late 1st for him which they will not get, at lesat not in this upcoming draft.

I saw this the other day. It gives me hope that Farabee has some real value around the league.
- MBFlyerfan

On buf radio everyday noon to 1 pm hockey hotline with guest and host saying trade with Philly for 3c or top 6 winger. Laughts tk bee but Philly isn’t trading. Status quo

It has been reported by multiple reputable sources, like Anthony DiMarco, Frank Seravalli and those on The Fourth Period that the Flyers have dangled these players. You can choose whether you want to believe those reports or not. I choose to believe them. Briere in fact has spoken abut Farabee, saying there is much more expected out of him than what he has given the Flyers so far. I'll let you find the recent interview where he said this.


- jd250

Even after MB explained what the issue is in plain language, very succinctly. You still can't grasp it. You still can't figure out where you went wrong. LMAO

Lets just cut to the chase. You, MJL and Tomahawk just want to come on this forum every single hour of the day and spew your narrative that the Flyers are stupid, everything they do is wrong, they are dysfunctional, Briere is over his head, Jones is just a color analyst, etc, etc, etc. Are these facts or just your opinions? Do you have any proof of your own that this is the case? Any articles from reputable sources that back up your claims? You can live in your misery all you want, have fun! As for me, I will continue to come on to this forum and talk hockey, and stay out of the insulting others business, which you and others seem to feast on in your lonely lives.
- jd250

Proof is offered to you every single day. The most recent is the Youtube video that you linked! LOL

We know you'll continue to do what you do. We know you'll continue to not understand what a coach or team exec is actually saying. We know you'll continue to display the inability to learn. We know you'll continue to display your complete inability to properly assess anything in the sport of hockey. We know that you'll continue to have blind dumb and unearned faith in this franchise and how it is run. We know that you'll continue to make a fool of yourself on a daily basis.

https://x.com/BroadStBull/status/1811075210029977685?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1811075210029977685%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

lol...ryjo injured, JD injured. all prior to getting to philly.....

over or under 58 games for JD?
- hello it's me 2050

Under. Easy money

It has been reported by multiple reputable sources, like Anthony DiMarco, Frank Seravalli and those on The Fourth Period that the Flyers have dangled these players. You can choose whether you want to believe those reports or not. I choose to believe them. Briere in fact has spoken abut Farabee, saying there is much more expected out of him than what he has given the Flyers so far. I'll let you find the recent interview where he said this.

Lets just cut to the chase. You, MJL and Tomahawk just want to come on this forum every single hour of the day and spew your narrative that the Flyers are stupid, everything they do is wrong, they are dysfunctional, Briere is over his head, Jones is just a color analyst, etc, etc, etc. Are these facts or just your opinions? Do you have any proof of your own that this is the case? Any articles from reputable sources that back up your claims? You can live in your misery all you want, have fun! As for me, I will continue to come on to this forum and talk hockey, and stay out of the insulting others business, which you and others seem to feast on in your lonely lives.
- jd250

They are not the only ones that feel that way. Just look at the last decade of the Flyers to understand everyone's hesitance to trust anything the Flyers do. I certainly hope things change with the current regime. Nothing they have done thus far gives me a lot of confidence though.