Exactly..that's why I said I hope they are smarter than that.

On the other side of the coin...if it gets down to where they still own his rights, and only offer him a 7 year deal, he can still play hardball and say he wants the 8th year or he is signing elsewhere. The 8th year would really be the only compelling reason to resign in Philly. If it gets to that point of him still being unsigned and a Flyer after the TDL, I can see it being MORE in TK's favor than the teams.

It is moronic for the team to go down that path.
- TheFreak

I got where you're coming from. This situation has to be settled before the 24/25 trade deadline. Like you said, hopefully the Flyers are smart enough to realize that.

Well yes unless his rights are traded before July 1st, again I added that in my post. You are just trying to nit pick anything he says.

You clearly knew he was talk currently the Flyers can offer him 8 years where no team can, unless another team trades for his contract then they hold the 8th year option.

You are just looking to attack the guy for no reason other to make yourself feel better.
Is your life so small that you need a boost to pick on him
- SlNlSTER

But that is not what JD is saying. He has clearly stated time and again that only the Flyers can offer him an 8 year contract, whereas every other team can only offer him a 7 year contract. He is mistaken.

Things are being added to the arguement to prove a point, but those things where not part of the original discussion.

Well yes unless his rights are traded before July 1st, again I added that in my post. You are just trying to nit pick anything he says.

You clearly knew he was talk currently the Flyers can offer him 8 years where no team can, unless another team trades for his contract then they hold the 8th year option.

You are just looking to attack the guy for no reason other to make yourself feel better.
Is your life so small that you need a boost to pick on him
- SlNlSTER

You're being foolish. Your first words in reply to my post was that you disagree. There was no statement in that post or any other post where I have refuted that if the Flyers don't re-sign him before the trade deadline and don't trade him, then they become the only team that can offer him 8 years. You moved the goal posts and are now acting like an ass. Again, in context and in the leverage for the negotiation, the Flyers don't have the leverage of being the only team that can offer 8 years to get him to take 7 years. You are wrong.

If you are removing all other teams from the scenario than yes.
- mickel25

- if he walks to free agency he will get a 7 year deal max

- if traded then can get 8 years

- signs with flyers can get 8 years

not sure why peeps trying to complicate a simple matter.

- if he walks to free agency he will get a 7 year deal max

- if traded then can get 8 years

- signs with flyers can get 8 years

not sure why peeps trying to complicate a simple matter.
- hello it's me 2050

Feels like this argument has gone on for 7 years…no, 8 years!

Feels like this argument has gone on for 7 years…no, 8 years!
- Dkos

LOL

But that is not what JD is saying. He has clearly stated time and again that only the Flyers can offer him an 8 year contract, whereas every other team can only offer him a 7 year contract. He is mistaken.

Things are being added to the arguement to prove a point, but those things where not part of the original discussion.
- TheFreak

Sinister is absolutely correct. I was talking about right now, not about the edge case where his rights are traded. My only point here is the Flyers do not have to go to 8 years with TK. He may ask for it, but the Flyers do not have to go there.

Look, here is the bottom line. Whatever I say MJL and his butt buddy MB will just try to contradict it. They are threatened by me, even though they really shouldn't be and have no reason to be. But they can't touch me, and niether can you.

If you all want to talk hockey, I'm all in. If you all want to just nitpick for the sake of disqualifying anything I say, you will be shunned by me and left out of the conversation. There are others on this site that just want to talk hockey like me, not attack others. You should decide what type of person you want to be.

7am start hits and instantly you boys are going right at each other…

Exactly..that's why I said I hope they are smarter than that.

On the other side of the coin...if it gets down to where they still own his rights, and only offer him a 7 year deal, he can still play hardball and say he wants the 8th year or he is signing elsewhere. The 8th year would really be the only compelling reason to resign in Philly. If it gets to that point of him still being unsigned and a Flyer after the TDL, I can see it being MORE in TK's favor than the teams.

It is moronic for the team to go down that path.
- TheFreak

We’ll see where it goes. Hopefully they make a decision before this season starts. TK is a UFA in 12 months…so just with that alone he really has all the leverage. I guess one can play the “injury” card argument but other than that. Yes, the 8th year is a thing…but that can be made up in the AAV.
I agree it would be moronic to slow play this situation, hence why I had hoped maybe a trade would have gone down at the draft last week.

- if he walks to free agency he will get a 7 year deal max

- if traded then can get 8 years

- signs with flyers can get 8 years

not sure why peeps trying to complicate a simple matter.
- hello it's me 2050

absolutely right .. its just nitpicking to disqualify anything I say. Its childish and stupid. Bill, if you are reading this, give MJL a timeout, he is the one that starts all this BS all the time and ruins what should be a great hockey forum.

Sinister is absolutely correct. I was talking about right now, not about the edge case where his rights are traded. My only point here is the Flyers do not have to go to 8 years with TK. He may ask for it, but the Flyers do not have to go there.

Look, here is the bottom line. Whatever I say MJL and his butt buddy MB will just try to contradict it. They are threatened by me, even though they really shouldn't be and have no reason to be. But they can't touch me, and niether can you.

If you all want to talk hockey, I'm all in. If you all want to just nitpick for the sake of disqualifying anything I say, you will be shunned by me and left out of the conversation. There are others on this site that just want to talk hockey like me, not attack others. You should decide what type of person you want to be.
- jd250

We know you're talking about right now. Right now, you're wrong. You trying to spin it about Konecny being traded. Shows that you don't understand the rule and the situation. Again, it has been explained to you countless times. You're still getting it wrong.

We're threatened by you. LOL Well you've checked off the box of stupidity for today. Prepare for tomorrow.

Sinister is absolutely correct. I was talking about right now, not about the edge case where his rights are traded. My only point here is the Flyers do not have to go to 8 years with TK. He may ask for it, but the Flyers do not have to go there.

Look, here is the bottom line. Whatever I say MJL and his butt buddy MB will just try to contradict it. They are threatened by me, even though they really shouldn't be and have no reason to be. But they can't touch me, and niether can you.

If you all want to talk hockey, I'm all in. If you all want to just nitpick for the sake of disqualifying anything I say, you will be shunned by me and left out of the conversation. There are others on this site that just want to talk hockey like me, not attack others. You should decide what type of person you want to be.
- jd250

Now that's funny

absolutely right .. its just nitpicking to disqualify anything I say. Its childish and stupid. Bill, if you are reading this, give MJL a timeout, he is the one that starts all this BS all the time and ruins what should be a great hockey forum.
- jd250

Actually it's not absolutely right. Again showing that you don't know the rules. If Konecny is kept all season by the Flyers and his rights traded, say at the draft. Which frequently happens with UFA's. The team trading for him can only give him 7 years. How many years a team trading for him can give him. Depends on when he is traded.

You're being foolish. Your first words in reply to my post was that you disagree. There was no statement in that post or any other post where I have refuted that if the Flyers don't re-sign him before the trade deadline and don't trade him, then they become the only team that can offer him 8 years. You moved the goal posts and are now acting like an ass. Again, in context and in the leverage for the negotiation, the Flyers don't have the leverage of being the only team that can offer 8 years to get him to take 7 years. You are wrong.
- MJL

Again your wrong I said I disagree to the 8th year option is not a advantage in negotiation.

Again please read correctly before trying to sound smart.

If he was traded then he no longer a flyer and some other team concern. But currently he is a flyer so stop trying to nit pick a fellow Flyers fan opinion.

If you don't like his opinion skip ahead to another person post that you do respect. Seems very simple

Actually it's not absolutely right. Again showing that you don't know the rules. If Konecny is kept all season by the Flyers and his rights traded, say at the draft. Which frequently happens with UFA's. The team trading for him can only give him 7 years. How many years a team trading for him can give him. Depends on when he is traded.
- MJL

Fine, fine .. I don't care. I don't geek out about CBA rules like you do. Its not important to me to know all the fine print. You know the point I am trying to make, but you don't care, because all you care about is throwing everything I say under the bus. You are not interested in talking hockey, you just want to crap all over the Flyers and crap all over people like me that are fans of the Flyers. This is just a fact. Everyone on here knows it. You are not a contributor to any conversation, you are a disrupter; you offer nothing.

Again your wrong I said I disagree to the 8th year option is not a advantage in negotiation.

Again please read correctly before trying to sound smart.

If he was traded then he no longer a flyer and some other team concern. But currently he is a flyer so stop trying to nit pick a fellow Flyers fan opinion.

If you don't like his opinion skip ahead to another person post that you do respect. Seems very simple
- SlNlSTER

The first rule of being in a hole, is to stop digging. You've put yourself in a hole and you continue to dig. You applied a factor that wasn't in the statement that was objected to, because you did not know what was actually stated. Now you're foolishly trying to repeatedly tell me I'm wrong. Ignorantly throwing around insults while looking like a fool. I'll reply to who I choose to reply to.

Sinister is absolutely correct. I was talking about right now, not about the edge case where his rights are traded. My only point here is the Flyers do not have to go to 8 years with TK. He may ask for it, but the Flyers do not have to go there.

Look, here is the bottom line. Whatever I say MJL and his butt buddy MB will just try to contradict it. They are threatened by me, even though they really shouldn't be and have no reason to be. But they can't touch me, and niether can you.

If you all want to talk hockey, I'm all in. If you all want to just nitpick for the sake of disqualifying anything I say, you will be shunned by me and left out of the conversation. There are others on this site that just want to talk hockey like me, not attack others. You should decide what type of person you want to be.
- jd250

Ok...so you are right...the Flyers are the only team that can offer him any kind of contract, as they own his rights and he is under contract currently with the Flyers.

You can say the same for ND...lol

However, talking about right now then...no other team could offer him a seven year deal right now either, so you are wrong there then. They can't even be in contact with him unless they have permission from the Flyers.

I am not nitpicking on you, and am sorry if you feel that way JD. I just find that a lot of what you say only has half truths to it, or it feels like it is said just to get some of the posters here going.

Sinister is absolutely correct. I was talking about right now, not about the edge case where his rights are traded. My only point here is the Flyers do not have to go to 8 years with TK. He may ask for it, but the Flyers do not have to go there.

Look, here is the bottom line. Whatever I say MJL and his butt buddy MB will just try to contradict it. They are threatened by me, even though they really shouldn't be and have no reason to be. But they can't touch me, and niether can you.

If you all want to talk hockey, I'm all in. If you all want to just nitpick for the sake of disqualifying anything I say, you will be shunned by me and left out of the conversation. There are others on this site that just want to talk hockey like me, not attack others. You should decide what type of person you want to be.
- jd250

For the record, I don't want to....

Fine, fine .. I don't care. I don't geek out about CBA rules like you do. Its not important to me to know all the fine print. You know the point I am trying to make, but you don't care, because all you care about is throwing everything I say under the bus. You are not interested in talking hockey, you just want to crap all over the Flyers and crap all over people like me that are fans of the Flyers. This is just a fact. Everyone on here knows it. You are not a contributor to any conversation, you are a disrupter; you offer nothing.
- jd250

Your threat to shun me and others lasted a whole 15 minutes. Your point was wrong. Both in terms of fact and how it applied to Konecny's leverage in contract negotiations. You were trying to use it as a reason for why the Flyers should only give Konecny a 7 year deal. You were wrong, as usual and were proven wrong. Instead of learning from it and correcting your lack of knowledge. You repeatedly posted it. Despite being corrected on it umpteen times. Speaking for myself, the Flyers as an organization get what they deserve. What their performance dictates. It is unintelligent for you to insinuate that it just about wanting to crap on the Flyers. It is unintelligent for you to claim that I don't want to talk about hockey when I'm on this forum every day, talking about hockey.

Actually it's not absolutely right. Again showing that you don't know the rules. If Konecny is kept all season by the Flyers and his rights traded, say at the draft. Which frequently happens with UFA's. The team trading for him can only give him 7 years. How many years a team trading for him can give him. Depends on when he is traded.
- MJL

go change that diaper mommy getting angry

However, talking about right now then...no other team could offer him a seven year deal right now either, so you are wrong there then. They can't even be in contact with him unless they have permission from the Flyers.


- TheFreak

He won't be able to grasp what that means.

Your threat to shun me and others lasted a whole 15 minutes. Your point was wrong. Both in terms of fact and how it applied to Konecny's leverage in contract negotiations. You were trying to use it as a reason for why the Flyers should only give Konecny a 7 year deal. You were wrong, as usual and were proven wrong. Instead of learning from it and correcting your lack of knowledge. You repeatedly posted it. Despite being corrected on it umpteen times. Speaking for myself, the Flyers as an organization get what they deserve. What their performance dictates. It is unintelligent for you to insinuate that it just about wanting to crap on the Flyers. It is unintelligent for you to claim that I don't want to talk about hockey when I'm on this forum every day, talking about hockey.
- MJL

what do you think about ryan suter signing with the blues?

some solid free agents still available. any thoughts?

what do you think about ryan suter signing with the blues?

some solid free agents still available. any thoughts?
- hello it's me 2050

Suter was terrible for the Stars in the playoffs last year. I fully expected him to retire after the buyout. He seems like he is holding on, but he shouldn't.

I am not interested in any free agents.

Suter was terrible for the Stars in the playoffs last year. I fully expected him to retire after the buyout. He seems like he is holding on, but he shouldn't.

I am not interested in any free agents.
- TheFreak

some contending teams will get some solid players on the cheap for 1 year. All while the flyers lock up GH

Ok...so you are right...the Flyers are the only team that can offer him any kind of contract, as they own his rights and he is under contract currently with the Flyers.

You can say the same for ND...lol

However, talking about right now then...no other team could offer him a seven year deal right now either, so you are wrong there then. They can't even be in contact with him unless they have permission from the Flyers.

I am not nitpicking on you, and am sorry if you feel that way JD. I just find that a lot of what you say only has half truths to it, or it feels like it is said just to get some of the posters here going.
- TheFreak

Fair enough, my intention is never to put out half truths, honestly its not. I am just sharing thoughts and opinions, nothing more. I don't come on this forum to argue with people, I come on here to share ideas and read opinions with like minded Flyers fans that want this team to succeed. I feel there are some on this site that want to this team to continue to fail and live for it. I can't stand it.