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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Jul 15 @ 8:28 AM ET
Luchenko does not have a low ceiling at all. The others, who knows.
- jd250

keep slurping my man. guess you missed that part that said overall. no one knows until it happens. just like you claim to do, basing it on reports that are out there.

I guess in your opinion jett has top center potential, am I right?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 15 @ 8:28 AM ET
I love how people say they want transparency from there favorite sports teams, but when they get it, they complain about it. What part of what Tortorella said about Allison wasn't true about his game? As for complaining about not giving Denis Gurianov a real shot. At the time of this post, no one has signed him yet.
- bsjr5726

what does giveing him a real shot have to do with him not being signed?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Jul 15 @ 8:31 AM ET
You're ignorantly focusing on just one comment. Pelosi should've said she wanted to punch herself because she is responsible for what happened at the capital. She was responsible for security. Trump authorized the national guard and wanted them there. Pelosi and the mayor of DC said no. Pelosi was responsible for the capital police, who opened the doors and let everyone into the capital.

How about all of the other comments towards Trump? He's a threat to democracy, he is going to rip up the constitution. He's with the Russians. All of the abortion rhetoric. To top it all off, the comment from Biden of "its time to put a target on Trump" Someone just did. You are uninformed and ignorant.



I'm not surprised that would attempt to justify the comments due to it happening before. Maybe it needs to stop.




What was Trump's actual comment? That they're all animals and vermin? Or that some of them are? That's a typical strategy of the left. Misrepresent Trumps's statements. We know for a fact that some of them are animals. Raping and killing 12 years old girls and committing all kinds of heinous crimes. We know that there is possibility that someone the terrorist watch list may have entered through the unsecure border. That Americans commit more crimes, is irrelevant. Trump is absolute correct in what he says and the border needs to be secured and they all need to be deported. Your comments there are unintelligent and really the flawed thinking of a far left liberal nut case.








You don't have the common sense or intelligence to know that it's not racially charged language. It's behavior charged language. Unfortunately and sadly, we have ample evidence that Trump is correct. Like most far left liberals, you care more about the freedoms and rights of illegal immigrants than you do of murdered and raped American citizens.

- MJL

well done cliff. well done
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Jul 15 @ 8:32 AM ET
So I don't know about the rest of you, but I come here to talk hockey, not politics.

Couldn't give a rip about US politics.

Here's a public forum if you want to discuss politics..
https://www.sevenstring.o...litics-current-events.48/

Can we keep it to hockey today? Please?

- TheFreak

stop your whining my man
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jul 15 @ 8:44 AM ET
stop your whining my man
- hello it's me 2050



not whining, 5+ pages of political bs on a sports forum
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 15 @ 8:45 AM ET
not whining, 5+ pages of political bs on a sports forum
- TheFreak

oh well thats life
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 15 @ 8:53 AM ET
Agree with this, thinking DB is looking for upside, this kid can fly and pass, something the Flyers need and have to have. Speed, edge work, making plays while in motion, all good traits for the NHL, all good for MM. Kid is a gym rat, DB took a swing at 13, passing on the D who can skate makes it suspect, and I would have been more upset if the swing could not skate and was not a swing.
- wcorvette

And he already has NHL size so that means he can play in the NHL sooner without worrying about getting hurt so easily. That is why I think he will have a monster +1 season at Gaulf, maybe even as the cpatain of the team, and then challenge for the roster spot the following camp after another summer of workouts.
Uncle Vanya
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Jul 15 @ 8:54 AM ET
As soon as I saw the quote, I suspected it was bullpoop. It simply doesn't bear scrutiny largely because it is too outlandish (like the theory of a conspiracy behind the shooting). yet 3 of you thought otherwise, and as you are well aware, no one will be able to produce a link, for there is none.

Now regarding the other things you wrote. The "dehumanizing "discourse. I just looked up a few contexts. Pelosi wanting to punch Trump seems to have occurred on Jan 6th, while she was at the Capitol, while crowds were starting to come towards them. Which you must admit, are extremely strained circumstances. Further, she says she wants herself to punch him, in private conversation, not suggest others should. She is a very small, elderly woman; he is a large man. It is certainly disrespectful but I am afraid it seems to me largely a matter of someone speaking in the heat of the moment, metaphorically not literally, rather than 'dehumanize' anyone.

The Hitler/Mussolini stuff is generally stupid. You might be surprised to learn that there is a long tradition of this in our history, and bigwigs of both parties have often made that comparison about leaders of the other party, including LBJ and Obama.

https://www.politico.com/...itler-comparisons-213711/

But I will tell you one segment of discourse that has never occurred before. Trump calling (illegal) immigrants "vermin", saying they are "poisoning the blood of the country" and they are "animals, not human."


- PT21[Study after study after study (including by right wing think-tanks) has shown that immigrants coming over the southern border have lower crime rates than the American average. (this doesn't mean there aren't many bad apples, of course there are). This whole thing he says about prisons and so on is grade A bs. Quite apart from this being an empirical fact, it also is logical. Those guys face enormous hardship to come here and live life in the shadows and scrounge for work. To engage in crime means raising the probability of being exposed and getting caught and short-circuiting all the sacrifices for a disproportionately small gain. This would be illogical.]

Quite apart from this logic, since Hitler's time, in all of the G7 western countries, (a data set of 560 years: 80 x 7 countries) can you point to a single leader who has used such blatantly racially charged language?

And if not (which is what you will find), at least as far as comparability of rhetoric with the Fuhrer goes, is the comparison to Hitler dehumanizing or simply accurate?


Does "publish or perish" apply to Ivy League faculties in this day and age, and, if so, does Hockeybuzz qualify as a legitimate academic forum?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 15 @ 8:56 AM ET
And he already has NHL size so that means he can play in the NHL sooner without worrying about getting hurt so easily. That is why I think he will have a monster +1 season at Gaulf, maybe even as the cpatain of the team, and then challenge for the roster spot the following camp after another summer of workouts.
- jd250


The kid is 2-3 years away at best. He just turned 18. It's doubtful he is in the NHL at 19.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jul 15 @ 9:01 AM ET
And he already has NHL size so that means he can play in the NHL sooner without worrying about getting hurt so easily. That is why I think he will have a monster +1 season at Gaulf, maybe even as the cpatain of the team, and then challenge for the roster spot the following camp after another summer of workouts.
- jd250


Just for you jd...

Maybe he will burn the first year off his elc at the end of his junior season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 15 @ 9:05 AM ET
Does "publish or perish" apply to Ivy League faculties in this day and age, and, if so, does Hockeybuzz qualify as a legitimate academic forum?
- Uncle Vanya


Now that is funny.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jul 15 @ 9:07 AM ET
Also for jd...

Check out the pics of Luchenko as a kid decked out in Flyers gear...



jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 15 @ 9:08 AM ET

You don't have the common sense or intelligence to know that it's not racially charged language. It's behavior charged language. Unfortunately and sadly, we have ample evidence that Trump is correct. Like most far left liberals, you care more about the freedoms and rights of illegal immigrants than you do of murdered and raped American citizens.

- MJL

Well said! Just one thing, from my perspective, liberals care about one thing only, obtaining power and holding it forever. They love illegal immigration because it creates a crisis in this country, a crisis they can exploit for their own power. George Carlin said it best, liberals don't care about you, or me, immigrants or the environment. All they want is a clean, safe and comfortable place to live for themselves, and screw everyone else. Everything they charge Trump with is exactly what they do every single hour of every single day. For example, Liberals are the racists in this country. Just look at African American communities in this country decade after decade; the broken homes, the lack of education, drugs, gang violence and lack of real opportunties. Liberals keep those communities just alive enough to make them completely depedendent on state and local programs, to keep their loyalist employed while generation after generation is stuck in inner city hell. And when there is a great story of an African American that broke free from the bonds of racism and became something that others should apsire to. For example the life story of Clarence Thomas, who the left has villianized and has tried to destroy since the 80s, because, hey after all, others may actually rise up and realize they don't need programs to make something of themselves, they have everything they need already.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 15 @ 9:11 AM ET
The kid is 2-3 years away at best. He just turned 18. It's doubtful he is in the NHL at 19.
- MJL

Why is it doubtful?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 15 @ 9:14 AM ET
Well said! Just one thing, from my perspective, liberals care about one thing only, obtaining power and holding it forever. They love illegal immigration because it creates a crisis in this country, a crisis they can exploit for their own power. George Carlin said it best, liberals don't care about you, or me, immigrants or the environment. All they want is a clean, safe and comfortable place to live for themselves, and screw everyone else. Everything they charge Trump with is exactly what they do every single hour of every single day. For example, Liberals are the racists in this country. Just look at African American communities in this country decade after decade; the broken homes, the lack of education, drugs, gang violence and lack of real opportunties. Liberals keep those communities just alive enough to make them completely depedendent on state and local programs, to keep their loyalist employed while generation after generation is stuck in inner city hell. And when there is a great story of an African American that broke free from the bonds of racism and became something that others should apsire to. For example the life story of Clarence Thomas, who the left has villianized and has tried to destroy since the 80s, because, hey after all, others may actually rise up and realize they don't need programs to make something of themselves, they have everything they need already.
- jd250

Yes look at it. What is done to fix that within those neighborhoods by the peeps who live there? cant keep blaming the liberals when people don't want to help themselves and allow that cycle to continue year after year. old saying clean up your own backyard.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 15 @ 9:21 AM ET
keep slurping my man. guess you missed that part that said overall. no one knows until it happens. just like you claim to do, basing it on reports that are out there.

I guess in your opinion jett has top center potential, am I right?

- hello it's me 2050

At 17 years old, he has the potential to be a top center. Doesn't mean he will become one. We will not know for 3+ years what he will become.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 15 @ 9:24 AM ET
Yes look at it. What is done to fix that within those neighborhoods by the peeps who live there? cant keep blaming the liberals when people don't want to help themselves and allow that cycle to continue year after year. old saying clean up your own backyard.
- hello it's me 2050

Well, there is a crisis in the community, starting with the lack of real families with a father and a mother, but that is becoming an epidemic in every community. Surely there is more that the neighborhoods can do, but what I am saying is they are given very little help and support. Defunding the police for example hurt the inner cities way more than it helped them.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 15 @ 9:36 AM ET
At 17 years old, he has the potential to be a top center. Doesn't mean he will become one. We will not know for 3+ years what he will become.
- jd250

not one report said he has that potential. time will tell. will be even funnier when he ends up a winger...
Briere
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jul 15 @ 9:54 AM ET
Well said! Just one thing, from my perspective, liberals care about one thing only, obtaining power and holding it forever. They love illegal immigration because it creates a crisis in this country, a crisis they can exploit for their own power. George Carlin said it best, liberals don't care about you, or me, immigrants or the environment. All they want is a clean, safe and comfortable place to live for themselves, and screw everyone else. Everything they charge Trump with is exactly what they do every single hour of every single day. For example, Liberals are the racists in this country. Just look at African American communities in this country decade after decade; the broken homes, the lack of education, drugs, gang violence and lack of real opportunties. Liberals keep those communities just alive enough to make them completely depedendent on state and local programs, to keep their loyalist employed while generation after generation is stuck in inner city hell. And when there is a great story of an African American that broke free from the bonds of racism and became something that others should apsire to. For example the life story of Clarence Thomas, who the left has villianized and has tried to destroy since the 80s, because, hey after all, others may actually rise up and realize they don't need programs to make something of themselves, they have everything they need already.
- jd250


Carlin also said "Liberal orthodoxy was as repugnant as conservative orthodoxy"


landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 15 @ 9:54 AM ET
not whining, 5+ pages of political bs on a sports forum
- TheFreak


It kinda happened after an event that has far reaching ramifications….but ya back to hockey.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jul 15 @ 10:20 AM ET
It kinda happened after an event that has far reaching ramifications….but ya back to hockey.
- landros 2


I do get that, but there is a place for that. Not trying to complain, but I don't come here for politics of a different country



PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 15 @ 9:11 PM ET
That was one long-winded deflection. Thanks for the laughs this morning!
- mikeyo27


Do you know what the word "deflection" means? It means essentially talking about something different. Every single thing I wrote in the comment you quoted directly addressed what you wrote.

Here is a summary, since you found it long winded.

1.The first part addressed the veracity of the Pelosi quote.

2. The part about the historical use of Hitler comparisons in us political discourse does not justify its use. But it does make the point that Trump is far from unique in being addressed as such and thus explain the usage. Btw, I remembered today that Vance also compared Trump to Hitler in 2016. *smile*

3. The language used by Trump does justify the Hitler comparison because no cadidate running for the top political position in a western country has used such language since Hitler.



PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 15 @ 9:12 PM ET
And yet now that its clear the secret service completely F***'d up the security of the event, leaving a roof top with a clear vantage point of the President from only 130 yards away from that stage unsecured, Biden offered no words to what he is going to do to correct that, NONE! Biden as the head of the executive branch has an obligation to make sure former presidents and political candidates in an election are protected at all times, and yet magically in a little town in western PN, Trump is left out to dry so much so a 20 year old kid with his dad's rifle walks up to the event, climbs up a ladder of a building across the street from the event and gets off 6-8 rounds. And the only thing we heard from Mr. Classy is we need to tone down the rhetoric? This from a man that has turned the FBI into his own personal SS unit, and now they are going to lead the "investigation"? In Mr. Classy's own words .. "Come on Man!"
- jd250


1. Correct. The building in question was outside the perimeter of the SS jurisdiction and was supposed to have been scanned and secured by local police. Having said that, these sort of administrative explanations do not hold water. Someone (frank)ed up, and there will be consequences.

2. Incorrect. Biden has called for an independent investigation.

3. It has been moved outside the realm of the Secret Service, which is in Homeland Security. That leaves the FBI as the obvious candidate to lead the investigation. Who else could read it?

4. Did you realize, that in the content of dehumanizing language apparently used by the left re: Trump, you just equated Biden to Hitler?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 15 @ 9:12 PM ET
Actually I believe him on this point, there is no doubt in my mind he teaches at an Ivy league school.
- jd250


I wasn't born there though. As I have mentioned before, my family was quite poor. I worked all through school and college (including cleaning dorms during summer break and salad/fixings bar at Arby's , volunteered in a Republican senator's office, and also at a local union).

My wife was middle class in origin. Her dad was black. Lots of black churches. Brother-in-law is a locksmith. His wife is unvaccinated.

Wife works in a non-profit. Lots of exposure to need all over Philly. Her mother is from Reading area. Mother's brother is an avid Trump supporter.

When I was young in Philly: sought out many grittier urban experinces. Boxed, lived in Mantua. Went to a lot of bars, esp after Eagles games. Was a big thing to go to diners after that bar hopping. Catching the Inky and the DN to devour every word about the game; endless conversations with strangers about everything.

Took a long time to finish my ph.d

I have to say, HockeyBuzz has been probably one of the most unusual aspects of my exposure to life. I had an impression that Trump supporters were struggling more economically. I hadn't expected so many here. I also hadn't expected the dullness of intellect. It has been an enormously educational, though I feel sad about the lessons I learned here.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 15 @ 9:12 PM ET
You're ignorantly focusing on just one comment. Pelosi should've said she wanted to punch herself because she is responsible for what happened at the capital. She was responsible for security. Trump authorized the national guard and wanted them there. Pelosi and the mayor of DC said no. Pelosi was responsible for the capital police, who opened the doors and let everyone into the capital.

How about all of the other comments towards Trump? He's a threat to democracy, he is going to rip up the constitution. He's with the Russians. All of the abortion rhetoric. To top it all off, the comment from Biden of "its time to put a target on Trump" Someone just did. You are uninformed and ignorant.



I'm not surprised that would attempt to justify the comments due to it happening before. Maybe it needs to stop.




What was Trump's actual comment? That they're all animals and vermin? Or that some of them are? That's a typical strategy of the left. Misrepresent Trumps's statements. We know for a fact that some of them are animals. Raping and killing 12 years old girls and committing all kinds of heinous crimes. We know that there is possibility that someone the terrorist watch list may have entered through the unsecured border. That Americans commit more crimes, is irrelevant. Trump is absolutely correct in what he says and the border needs to be secured and they all need to be deported. Your comments there are unintelligent and really the flawed thinking of a far left liberal nut case.








You don't have the common sense or intelligence to know that it's not racially charged language. It's behavior charged language. Unfortunately and sadly, we have ample evidence that Trump is correct. Like most far left liberals, you care more about the freedoms and rights of illegal immigrants than you do of murdered and raped American citizens.

- MJL


1st bold: Your 'interpretation' differs substantially from the final report of the congressional inquiry, all of the world press, mainstream conservative publications like the WSJ, and even the NY Post:

https://nypost.com/2022/0...rthy-for-2024-reelection/

Having said that, since these are clearly outlets geared for far-left hacks like me, and since you evidently follow far more unbiased sources, I will drop the topic.

2. 2nd bold: Actually, Biden's quote was "time to put Trump in a bull's-eye". It was a on a private call with donors. He meant it was time to change the topic from his debate stumbles to Trump's issues. The bullseye was meant to be a focus.

3. 3rd bold: All of them.



Incidentally, even if they are geared towards a subset of illegal immigrants, how exactly is this subset "poisoning the blood of the country?" And since Hitler, who has used such rhetoric in the western world?

4. 4th bold: Actually, since illegal immigrants have a lower crime rate, and especially a lower violent crime rate, the unescapable arithmetical implication is that the crime rate and violent crime rate, would fall if there are more illegal immigrants, which means the average woman/12 year old etc etc would have a lower chance of being victimised. So, it can't be behavioral.
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