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breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jul 16 @ 3:08 PM ET
So, now that we know what the Hawks roster is going to be approximately, what are we thinking for year 2 of Bedard.

Last season 68GP 22G 39A 61P 0.9 Points/Game

Assuming 82 games, I'm going with 82GP 31G 54A 85P 1.04 Points/Game

I still think he has a lot of growing to do, but as a talented 19 year old, he can get above that point per game pace. Probably can score at a pace that many star players don't reach until age 22-24 or 4-5 years in the league. I don't think he will get to that 100 point plateau yet, but would love to be wrong.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jul 16 @ 3:09 PM ET
Certainly, Bedard will be very happy with the upgrades on the offense side of the Blackhawks' roster.
- 35Tony0

What do you think this is, a hockey site? Get with the program 35.
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Jul 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
I went to school in Italy for a year in college. Two guys tore up their knees sking. $5 bucks each for non citizens.
- rpeters01

The wife of a friend of mine from europe waa visiting vegas. She suddenly suffered from dizziness. In the hospital three days, ct and mri…$33,000.
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Jul 16 @ 3:57 PM ET
What do you think this is, a hockey site? Get with the program 35.
- Angotti

Bedard will also benefit from the improvements on the defense side of the roster.
And I will check back in a week from now!
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Jul 16 @ 4:01 PM ET
I have national health care, they deduct a % from my salary whether I want them to or not.
I'm still relatively young and don't need to see doctors (thank the good Lord) but some friends of mine have been on 2-3month waiting lists for MRIs etc...
Dentist? I can squeeze you in about 2 weeks from today is what you'll hear. Then you go to a private practice and end up paying out of pocket.
Not sure how good or bad the US system is,but the whole national health care thing isn't great everywhere.

- captainserious

It is true that you may have to wait for some non-emergency procedures but if its an emergency you get taken care of right away. The difference is that you dont lose your house and belongings like you do in the US. There are trade offs in both systems. Perhaps a hybrid of private and social systems is the answer. I cant complain where i am about the heslth care system.
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Jul 16 @ 4:02 PM ET
So, now that we know what the Hawks roster is going to be approximately, what are we thinking for year 2 of Bedard.

Last season 68GP 22G 39A 61P 0.9 Points/Game

Assuming 82 games, I'm going with 82GP 31G 54A 85P 1.04 Points/Game

I still think he has a lot of growing to do, but as a talented 19 year old, he can get above that point per game pace. Probably can score at a pace that many star players don't reach until age 22-24 or 4-5 years in the league. I don't think he will get to that 100 point plateau yet, but would love to be wrong.

- breadbag


Sounds about right Bread. Feel he'll be stronger on his skates and no doubt have more talent around him, on his line and on the PP too. So many passes he made that just couldn't be handled or capitalized on due to the lack of skill last year.
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Jul 16 @ 4:12 PM ET
National or universal health care (UHC) is great if you can’t afford insurance, don’t have a job or have a recurring illness. But there are definitely drawbacks. Part of some Universal health care systems is the requirement to cap the salaries of doctors. That can lead to doctors going to other countries where they can make more money or capping the number of patients they see. All UHC systems seem to have longer wait times for non emergency illnesses or injuries. For example I had to wait 3 weeks for an MRI or get it at 2am because my injury, while uncomfortable, didn’t prevent me from walking. My Dad had cancer and had an MRI immediately. The biggest advantage to UHC is the cost of running it are actually less expensive than for profit health care systems. The average annual cost of health care per person for a Canadian in 2022 was $6,300 vs $12,500 in the U.S. Another advantage is the cost of medicine is far less expensive in a UHC system. The biggest advantage of for profit medicine is availability regardless of the problem or severity of the problem.
- paulr

I agree with everything you state. The reason for capping dr fees or the cost of medication is due to limited funding. UHC tries to balance costs with service availability. The trade off is you may have to wait for some non emergency procedures. Where i live now, you can always go outside the system and go private if you feel you cant wait for something. The difference is that the cost of going private is not outrageous like it is in for profit systems like in the US. Having for profit system is much more manageable in the US once youre retired. Supplemental is affordable over and above medicare. When i look at the unchecked rise in the cost i just dont think the system as is will be sustainable much longer.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 16 @ 5:03 PM ET
I just looked at the numbers and its amazing. China is the next highest at 290B or so.

Perhaps the numbers are so high due to the bases on almost every continent. We used to go down to Yokosuka as a cousin and a few friends were at the base and for all intents and purposes it is an American city in Japan with schools, a Walmart-type store and even a Chili's. There's even a military-only hotel in the heart of Tokyo called the New Sanno that we could get into with friends/family.

Like Italy, Japan has a national health care system. For something like 500 bucks a month for my family, we got deductible-less (all copay) insurance that was affordable. Visits to the pediatrician were like 3 bucks each and I remember getting a cavity fixed/filing for like 10 bucks. That was the hardest part of moving back, figuring out how insurance here worked.

- Popsghostly


Have never been to Japan, it's on the bucket list; but everything I see, read or hear, it sounds like an amazing experience for many things but especially if you really enjoy food.

I get it wasn't your idea so no offense but for someone to think putting a Chili's there is a good thing just seems wrong.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 16 @ 5:32 PM ET
I think there's a good chance that Nazar is up to stay at some point this season, it's just a matter of when. I doubt he'll start the season in Chicago, although it's not out of the realm of possibilities. KD could trade some of his summer acquisitions to make room for Nazar or send somebody (likely Anderson) to Rockford. But I think the more likely scenario is that someone, or multiple someones, get hurt. I don't expect the likes of Hall, AA, Maroon, Smith, or even Mikheyev to play a full season. If it's just for a game or two then I'd expect a Seney or Guttman to get the call, but if someone is out for 2+ weeks then maybe that's Nazar's chance.
- DarthKane


They're at 23 or 24 now. Thats including Anderson who has a 2 way deal, Slaggert, Donato who can be waived because who cares, Maroon who isn't playing every night, Foligno who probably shouldn't play every night. Certainly space for Nazar in the line up.

Maybe we can bet on who gets waived\moved first, Kurashev or Reichel.

Unless big arty is on the roster, it seems kinda premature to think that EDM or Kaiser is going to jump Korchinski on the depth chart or that they're going to skate all of Brodie, Martinez, and Murphy on the same night.

Seems more like theyre tempering expectations just like they did this off season and playing the sell low deliver high game.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 16 @ 5:35 PM ET
I agree with everything you state. The reason for capping dr fees or the cost of medication is due to limited funding. UHC tries to balance costs with service availability. The trade off is you may have to wait for some non emergency procedures. Where i live now, you can always go outside the system and go private if you feel you cant wait for something. The difference is that the cost of going private is not outrageous like it is in for profit systems like in the US. Having for profit system is much more manageable in the US once youre retired. Supplemental is affordable over and above medicare. When i look at the unchecked rise in the cost i just dont think the system as is will be sustainable much longer.
- LFS


Some people who live in the states do this as well. Go to Mexico to have surgery.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 16 @ 6:40 PM ET
The wife of a friend of mine from europe waa visiting vegas. She suddenly suffered from dizziness. In the hospital three days, ct and mri…$33,000.
- LFS

Oh you have no idea, Chemo treatment $40k and up per treatment, angioplasty or stent, $50-120k. Name brand drugs are astronomical, the prices offset the capped prices in other countries.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 16 @ 6:43 PM ET
Have never been to Japan, it's on the bucket list; but everything I see, read or hear, it sounds like an amazing experience for many things but especially if you really enjoy food.

I get it wasn't your idea so no offense but for someone to think putting a Chili's there is a good thing just seems wrong.

- HawkintheD

I would starve if I had to eat "real" Japanese food. Funny trivia, the majority owner of Chilli's at one time was the ex President of Egypt, Hosni Mubarek's wife. Our tax dollars at work in other countries. He was a billionaire.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 16 @ 6:47 PM ET
I agree with everything you state. The reason for capping dr fees or the cost of medication is due to limited funding. UHC tries to balance costs with service availability. The trade off is you may have to wait for some non emergency procedures. Where i live now, you can always go outside the system and go private if you feel you cant wait for something. The difference is that the cost of going private is not outrageous like it is in for profit systems like in the US. Having for profit system is much more manageable in the US once youre retired. Supplemental is affordable over and above medicare. When i look at the unchecked rise in the cost i just dont think the system as is will be sustainable much longer.
- LFS

Even my conservative friends agree, if everyone in the US who needed healthcare was able to get it, our waits, which are longer than people think, would get much longer.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 16 @ 6:50 PM ET
They're at 23 or 24 now. Thats including Anderson who has a 2 way deal, Slaggert, Donato who can be waived because who cares, Maroon who isn't playing every night, Foligno who probably shouldn't play every night. Certainly space for Nazar in the line up.

Maybe we can bet on who gets waived\moved first, Kurashev or Reichel.

Unless big arty is on the roster, it seems kinda premature to think that EDM or Kaiser is going to jump Korchinski on the depth chart or that they're going to skate all of Brodie, Martinez, and Murphy on the same night.

Seems more like theyre tempering expectations just like they did this off season and playing the sell low deliver high game.

- fattybeef

I have no reason to think Kurashev will crash and burn. That said, Reichel has more upside so we think??? If his first half is like last year he'll be gone fairly quickly if somebody else is ready to come up. It would be a Nylander/Lafferty type trade.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 16 @ 7:12 PM ET
I would starve if I had to eat "real" Japanese food. Funny trivia, the majority owner of Chilli's at one time was the ex President of Egypt, Hosni Mubarek's wife. Our tax dollars at work in other countries. He was a billionaire.
- rpeters01


They have like a 4% obesity rate there. While here its over 40.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 16 @ 7:32 PM ET
They have like a 4% obesity rate there. While here its over 40.
- fattybeef

I could always take up Sumo Wrestling.
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

Jul 16 @ 8:30 PM ET
So, now that we know what the Hawks roster is going to be approximately, what are we thinking for year 2 of Bedard.

Last season 68GP 22G 39A 61P 0.9 Points/Game

Assuming 82 games, I'm going with 82GP 31G 54A 85P 1.04 Points/Game

I still think he has a lot of growing to do, but as a talented 19 year old, he can get above that point per game pace. Probably can score at a pace that many star players don't reach until age 22-24 or 4-5 years in the league. I don't think he will get to that 100 point plateau yet, but would love to be wrong.

- breadbag


A point-per-game year:
Blackhawks: 82 standings points
Bedard: 82 points scored

Think Bedard could go over 90 if he meshes well with the new guys. 100 seems like too many for right now.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 16 @ 8:56 PM ET
A point-per-game year:
Blackhawks: 82 standings points
Bedard: 82 points scored

Think Bedard could go over 90 if he meshes well with the new guys. 100 seems like too many for right now.

- totem


I think Bedard scores between 95 and 100 points. It was insane he was almost a point per game player last season. Now he has more than 1 nhl top 6 option, and his 2nd year they will actuality call more penalties committed against him.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 16 @ 8:58 PM ET
Even my conservative friends agree, if everyone in the US who needed healthcare was able to get it, our waits, which are longer than people think, would get much longer.
- rpeters01


This is such a weird statement, you have to wait for Healthcare?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 16 @ 9:02 PM ET
They have like a 4% obesity rate there. While here its over 40.
- fattybeef


Very true but i also believe, maybe not today, but in the past meat is very expensive there so they eat less of it.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 16 @ 9:18 PM ET
Even my conservative friends agree, if everyone in the US who needed healthcare was able to get it, our waits, which are longer than people think, would get much longer.
- rpeters01


For some stuff it's probably reasonable to wait a little bit.

fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 16 @ 9:35 PM ET
Very true but i also believe, maybe not today, but in the past meat is very expensive there so they eat less of it.
- BetweenTheDots


It's not just the meat, though fish is arguably more healthy than corn fed beef. (got asked a question about what treat I wouldn't want to give up and a sweet delicious corn finished rib eye was my pick) Love venison, bison and grass fed cow is good but oh man is that fatty corn fed beef something else. It's candy basically and I treat it as such.

Anyway their diet in general is better (not dissimilar to Europe) - as you pointed out less red meat - but way more vegetables and smaller portions. High fiber, higher quality protein. Mostly fresh food instead of the science experiments we eat here. Not to mention the food standards in Japan (and Europe for that matter) are different (better).

There's also the cultural differences, similar to Europe people walk more and there's just in general more of an emphasis on health.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 16 @ 9:53 PM ET
This is such a weird statement, you have to wait for Healthcare?
- BetweenTheDots

Try getting into a Rheumatologist in less than 6 months with insurance.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 16 @ 10:14 PM ET
If youre from Chicago, I went to St. Ignatius and have a degree from Loyola.
- LFS


Ignatius and Loyola can’t get much more Chicago.

Live in Bucktown. Went to Depual for law school, Marquette undergrad, grew up western burbs.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 16 @ 10:17 PM ET
I agree with everything you state. The reason for capping dr fees or the cost of medication is due to limited funding. UHC tries to balance costs with service availability. The trade off is you may have to wait for some non emergency procedures. Where i live now, you can always go outside the system and go private if you feel you cant wait for something. The difference is that the cost of going private is not outrageous like it is in for profit systems like in the US. Having for profit system is much more manageable in the US once youre retired. Supplemental is affordable over and above medicare. When i look at the unchecked rise in the cost i just dont think the system as is will be sustainable much longer.
- LFS


You and PaulR spot on with healthcare systems. Quality educational literature in the middle of a hockey blog. 😂
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