Well, they have a Propsect or 2 for 3C who are not ready yet... The timeline is typical of prospects except at the very top of the draft, right? Ostlund, Wahlberg, Helenius.

If Savoie is now projected as a decent middle six, and likely a winger, how grossly did they "overpay" in acquiring a decent 3C with some upside?

This is closer to much ado about nothing
- IonSabres

Yep, and and a year ago Savoie was a top of that list.

The Sabres only overpaid if Savoie reaches his draft ceiling.

Like Lunaion said, history shows he's lagging.

It is absolutely possible he turns into a real player. If he doesn't hit his ceiling, if he's a 55 point winger, did we overpay?
- TheSabresTaco

Well if McLeod does nothing more than he is Know, and we don't improve. Than Yes

Well if McLeod does nothing more than he is Know, and we don't improve. Than Yes
- Buff36

What if I told you the total positive value McLeod provided to his team this season would have been 2nd overall on the Sabres behind Dahlin and 1st overall in value/minute

Well, they have a Propsect or 2 for 3C who are not ready yet... The timeline is typical of prospects except at the very top of the draft, right? Ostlund, Wahlberg, Helenius.

If Savoie is now projected as a decent middle six, and likely a winger, how grossly did they "overpay" in acquiring a decent 3C with some upside?

This is closer to much ado about nothing
- IonSabres

I'd say you expect a #9 to be an NHL regular in D+3 (this year). You hope a #16 is as well. Mentioning younger prospects potentially leapfrogging them isn't a good sign.

Well if McLeod does nothing more than he is Know, and we don't improve. Than Yes
- Buff36

Always a concern that defensive metrics don't hold as well.

Why did team Canada pass on him multiple times?

No one can seem to answer that. Unless he declined because of injuries?
- ImThatGuy

Exactly. My point about savoie this entire time is that he has had a Rocky development path. Some definite reg flags

As a 20 year old. He didn’t even dominate juniors.

Does that mean I think he sucks? No, he is just more of a wildcard than when we drafted him.

McLeod has NHL experience, nhl level analytics, and etc.

Sabres got a good player for his projected role and the Oilers got a joker of a playing card. Savoie could be amazing but he can also be a bust.

Always a concern that defensive metrics don't hold as well.
- Lunaion

McLeods linemates for most of the year were bums.

When he played with draistal. He put up points and showed offensive upside.

What if I told you the total positive value McLeod provided to his team this season would have been 2nd overall on the Sabres behind Dahlin and 1st overall in value/minute
- TheSabresTaco

That's fantastic, hopefully it transfers over with the Sabres. I wish nothing but the best for the guy and want to see him develop even more with the Sabres.

The biggest factor has to be terrible timing. Very hard for a D+2 kid in the CHL to increase his value + an ill-timed injury at worlds, which was his chance to shine against better competition.
- Lunaion

Add his birthdate and the stupid CHL rule.
I think that is a sign as well, lol.

Add his birthdate and the stupid CHL rule.
I think that is a sign as well, lol.
- IonSabres

Ya, 1 day...how stupid.

Always a concern that defensive metrics don't hold as well.
- Lunaion

Want nothing but the best for him, and hopefully he grows even more with us. Just expected more in a trade for Savoie. Doesn't mean I don't want McLeod to be good here, just make the Team better.

McLeods linemates for most of the year were bums.

When he played with draistal. He put up points and showed offensive upside.
- Sabretooth9

His most common linemates were Corey Perry and Warren Foegele. These aren't bums.

I'd say you expect a #9 to be an NHL regular in D+3 (this year). You hope a #16 is as well. Mentioning younger prospects potentially leapfrogging them isn't a good sign.
- Lunaion

I agree, so referring to him as a 1st (he is) implies higher value than a 9th OA who has 4 min of NHL time and now is in his D+3 yr.

That's my point, his value isn't that of a recent 9-OA anymore, so the claim of overpay is suspect at best.

Again, I really like him, but he was going to be a middle six player on this roster.

Only thing to do is wait and see, hopefully he does well in The Oil

His most common linemates were Corey Perry and Warren Foegele. These aren't bums.
- Lunaion

Corey Perry had 13 points and is 39 years old.

I agree, so referring to him as a 1st (he is) implies higher value than a 9th OA who has 4 min of NHL time and now is in his D+3 yr.

That's my point, his value isn't that of a recent 9-OA anymore, so the claim of overpay is suspect at best.

Again, I really like him, but he was going to be a middle six player on this roster.

Only thing to do is wait and see, hopefully he does well in The Oil
- IonSabres

I think both can be true: his value has slipped and it was a significant overpay.

Desperate GM's do desperate things.

Corey Perry had 13 points and is 39 years old.
- Sabretooth9

He only played 38 games with Edmonton, so 13pts ain't bad. Played with Chicago the first part of the Year

He only played 38 games with Edmonton, so 13pts ain't bad. Played with Chicago the first part of the Year
- Buff36

18 year old got 30 points

perry stinks

18 year old got 30 points

perry stinks
- homiedclown

Hopefully that youngin gets 40 or 50 this year homie. But Perry was decent for Edmonton in his 57 games including playoffs.

Hopefully that youngin gets 40 or 50 this year homie. But Perry was decent for Edmonton in his 57 games including playoffs.
- Buff36

He was horrible in the playoffs

He was horrible in the playoffs
- DirtyDan

Was he, says he played 19gms was a -3 with 4 or 5 pts. I really only watched much of Edmonton in the finals.
Edit: 3pts in the playoffs

Hopefully that youngin gets 40 or 50 this year homie. But Perry was decent for Edmonton in his 57 games including playoffs.
- Buff36

I agree

I was being a smartass

He was horrible in the playoffs
- DirtyDan

mcleod was worse


but that's different

I agree

I was being a smartass


- homiedclown

We need him to take that step homie

We need him to take that step homie
- Buff36

a bunch of them need to take that step IMO

Ignoring the fact that the Savoie trade should've been done 2 years ago to get a better player, only to get excited for a desperation move...