I read where Lafs camp isn’t signing anything yet. Betting on himself.

This is ultimately what people aren’t getting as far as “running it back”. They have no choice other than to really do that. Laf and Shesty are the foundations, cornerstones, insert whatever term you want, but they will get paid and should get paid before anyone and certainly any UFA that was out there.

The alien life forms that post here will just have to deal with the awful season we just had (sarcasm dripping) as they try and duplicate it and then some by winning 6 more games next year. I’m willing to bet they can, crazy me
- Slimtj100

Ugh yeah based on this I feel like i'd be thrilled with 8x8 or 7x7

I read where Lafs camp isn’t signing anything yet. Betting on himself.

This is ultimately what people aren’t getting as far as “running it back”. They have no choice other than to really do that. Laf and Shesty are the foundations, cornerstones, insert whatever term you want, but they will get paid and should get paid before anyone and certainly any UFA that was out there.

The alien life forms that post here will just have to deal with the awful season we just had (sarcasm dripping) as they try and duplicate it and then some by winning 6 more games next year. I’m willing to bet they can, crazy me
- Slimtj100

I love Shesty, but paying a goalie $11-13 million isn’t smart. If those are the true numbers, he needs to be traded.

I love Shesty, but paying a goalie $11-13 million isn’t smart. If those are the true numbers, he needs to be traded.
- nyrangers9479

The cap will keep going up. Bob is paid 10 million bucks, it can be done

I know you want Askarov but you simply can’t put all your eggs in an unproven (in the NHL) goalie right now with this team. We know we have chance vs any opponent on any given night with him, and that cost a lot of money to have

The Hank teams are the model you’re looking at, but this team is better then the teams he was on and I don’t think it’s close

I love Shesty, but paying a goalie $11-13 million isn’t smart. If those are the true numbers, he needs to be traded.
- nyrangers9479

Rangers are dumb enough to do it

I love Shesty, but paying a goalie $11-13 million isn’t smart. If those are the true numbers, he needs to be traded.
- nyrangers9479

I said when Lundqvist was signed that he was overpaid by a $1 million or so per year, which had an impact on team construction. My concern is the same here

I said when Lundqvist was signed that he was overpaid by a $1 million or so per year, which had an impact on team construction. My concern is the same here
- airjan23

Look at Jan burton over here

So we trade Igor, is that extra 8-9 million cap space gonna make us a good team 5 v 5? Highly doubt it since they haven’t been a good one with Igor taking up not much Of the cap so far

So yea let’s trade him and just be a bottom feeder. Makes no sense to me

Look at Jan burton over here
- picklerick

we did buyout his last year -- i don't think Jan is wrong. Also around that time we thought Cap would be going up by more than it did.

So we trade Igor, is that extra 8-9 million cap space gonna make us a good team 5 v 5? Highly doubt it since they haven’t been a good one with Igor taking up not much Of the cap so far

So yea let’s trade him and just be a bottom feeder. Makes no sense to me
- TPC

That cap needs a major correction, and it would be wise to sign Laf and Shesty before that happens. Once it does $10+M contracts will become the norm, and any contract signed while the cap is still suppressed will look like bargains. It’s like the Trouba contract, but in reverse.

we did buyout his last year -- i don't think Jan is wrong. Also around that time we thought Cap would be going up by more than it did.
- evitageN

I’m joking

I would love 8 x 8. I think Laf would accept that as well. Not sure if the Rangers want to sign him before they have a better sense of what Igor will cost
- airjan23

Im sure the Rangers have a feeling of what Igor will cost. Drury isnt that much of an idiot. Its the term that I think will be a sticking point.

I said when Lundqvist was signed that he was overpaid by a $1 million or so per year, which had an impact on team construction. My concern is the same here
- airjan23

Hanks Cap hit was high but he was by far the most important player on those Rangers team, he carried them. It was the team around him that failed. They couldnt score, was it the players or system, to late for that debate now.

This team as constructed, they should produce but they didnt, thats on them.

What has to be looked at is the fact that the recent Cup winners didnt have superstar goaltending, just good goaltending.

if we were to trade Igor what are we looking at for the return?

The cap will keep going up. Bob is paid 10 million bucks, it can be done

I know you want Askarov but you simply can’t put all your eggs in an unproven (in the NHL) goalie right now with this team. We know we have chance vs any opponent on any given night with him, and that cost a lot of money to have

The Hank teams are the model you’re looking at, but this team is better then the teams he was on and I don’t think it’s close
- Slimtj100

On paper this team is better than those in the past, just on paper, not in the playoffs. Where it matters of course.

You wanna beat down on analytics but they were right, your special teams can only carry you so far, you need solid 5v5 scoring to win. Facts

That cap needs a major correction, and it would be wise to sign Laf and Shesty before that happens. Once it does $10+M contracts will become the norm, and any contract signed while the cap is still suppressed will look like bargains. It’s like the Trouba contract, but in reverse.
- TC88

To assume the Cap will have a "Major" correction is dangerous. When Trouba and Panarin signed, thats all that was said. The Cap is going up and these contracts will look like bargains.

Hanks Cap hit was high but he was by far the most important player on those Rangers team, he carried them. It was the team around him that failed. They couldnt score, was it the players or system, to late for that debate now.

This team as constructed, they should produce but they didnt, thats on them.

What has to be looked at is the fact that the recent Cup winners didnt have superstar goaltending, just good goaltending.
- Brukie

Bob has the highest cap hit of any goalie in the league and they just won, but your point is correct for the previous couple of years

To assume the Cap will have a "Major" correction is dangerous. When Trouba and Panarin signed, thats all that was said. The Cap is going up and these contracts will look like bargains.
- Brukie

You’re not wrong, it’s a risky assumption to make but I think it’s riskier to wait til next offseason when their values will enviably be higher, and the cap increase could raise contract baselines. Their long term value will likely never be better than it is right now. However, the Rangers tend to do the opposite so won’t hold my breath.

Bob has the highest cap hit of any goalie in the league and they just won, but your point is correct for the previous couple of years
- SkjeiStadium

I was talking about the goalie being the most important on the team in order to win, Bob does have the highest Cap hit, but he isnt the most important player on the team, he just provided good goal tending.

I was talking about the goalie being the most important on the team in order to win, Bob does have the highest Cap hit, but he isnt the most important player on the team, he just provided good goal tending.
- Brukie

I'm not sure what you're advocating for here. If your goalie is the highest paid and also the best player, you're in trouble. But if you're goalie is the highest paid and just provides "good goaltending" then you can win?

if we were to trade Igor what are we looking at for the return?
- evitageN

Ullmark got a 1st. I’d assume 1st 2nd prospect.

Askorov is a verryyyy good goalie prospect that was taken 11th overall. I’m not saying trade Shesty without a plan, I’m saying Askorov (who NSH is shopping) has to be part of that plan.

Askorov would also save us between 8-10 million on the cap for the foreseeable future. We’re always worried about retaining money and in a cap crunch, here’s the answer.

So we trade Igor, is that extra 8-9 million cap space gonna make us a good team 5 v 5? Highly doubt it since they haven’t been a good one with Igor taking up not much Of the cap so far

So yea let’s trade him and just be a bottom feeder. Makes no sense to me
- TPC

If trading Igor makes us a bottom feeder, than we’re not a good team to begin with

I'm not sure what you're advocating for here. If your goalie is the highest paid and also the best player, you're in trouble. But if you're goalie is the highest paid and just provides "good goaltending" then you can win?
- SkjeiStadium

What Im saying that in recent years, the goalie wasnt needed to be out of this world to win the Cup, just good.

If trading Igor makes us a bottom feeder, than we’re not a good team to begin with
- nyrangers9479

Trading Shesty is super risky but could be a high reward situation, it would have to go down as to acquiring Askorov and Shesty out at the same time as too not get fleeced. I think we can get more for Shesty than the cost of trading for Askorov.

Look at Jan burton over here
- picklerick

No, I have always been fair and honest. I was happy they Hank that deal, just wish he left a smidge on the table to help NY sign others