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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 16 @ 12:02 PM ET
if we were to trade Igor what are we looking at for the return?
- evitageN

To be clear, I am far from advocating trading him. If they did, they would need a new #1 and that goalie would have to be viewed as someone that could help them reach and win in the ECF and SCF
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jul 16 @ 12:07 PM ET
I mostly join in here while at work so don't have the option to use a different browser. This site has become completely unusable. Not sure how much longer I'll stick around having to restart the site every 30 seconds.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 16 @ 12:17 PM ET
Are we better with Guentzel or a similar player and Askorov, or just Shesty. That’s how you have to look at it going into next year.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jul 16 @ 12:39 PM ET
No, I have always been fair and honest. I was happy they Hank that deal, just wish he left a smidge on the table to help NY sign others
- airjan23


So you’re not considering firing Drury, signing bad players, blowing it up, reveling in the chaos you caused, etc?

I’m just messing around
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jul 16 @ 12:40 PM ET
Are we better with Guentzel or a similar player and Askorov, or just Shesty. That’s how you have to look at it going into next year.
- nyrangers9479

Dude we get it
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jul 16 @ 1:01 PM ET
Dude we get it
- SkjeiStadium


This is something I would do in EA NHL 24 which tells me it would never work in real life
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
Dude we get it
- SkjeiStadium

Hey, thanks for stopping by a hockey rumor site to talk about hypothetical rumors. I guess we’ll go back to the 11 posts that were made for all of yesterday and just sit here in silence.
tbreinold
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.14.2007

Jul 16 @ 1:27 PM ET
Are we better with Guentzel or a similar player and Askorov, or just Shesty. That’s how you have to look at it going into next year.
- nyrangers9479


Better w Shesty
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 16 @ 1:28 PM ET
Hey, thanks for stopping by a hockey rumor site to talk about hypothetical rumors. I guess we’ll go back to the 11 posts that were made for all of yesterday and just sit here in silence.
- nyrangers9479

I just think there is a zero percent chance they trade Igor. The reason they aren’t spending this offseason is to budget for Miller, Igor and laf next summer
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jul 16 @ 1:29 PM ET
Hey, thanks for stopping by a hockey rumor site to talk about hypothetical rumors. I guess we’ll go back to the 11 posts that were made for all of yesterday and just sit here in silence.
- nyrangers9479

You bring up Askarov every day. We know your take. Yelling it into the void here isn't doing anything.

Askarov may end up being a good goalie but look at his AHL numbers vs Shesterkin.

Askarov in the past 2 years had a 2.69/2.39 GAA and .911 S% in each season. Last season he was atrocious in the AHL playoffs with a 3.25 GAA and 0.882 S%.

Igor played half a year in the AHL and put up a 1.90 GAA and 0.934 S%.

He then went on to have what is on pace to be the start of a HoF career in the NHL.

A team trying to win now is not going to trade arguably the best goalie in the NHL right now, and one of the best playoff goalies in recent memory for a kid with 2 NHL games under his belt and a decent but somewhat uninspiring AHL career.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Jul 16 @ 1:31 PM ET
I also love Shesty but no more than $9.5m cap hit or trade him. We do have Benoit Allaire
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 16 @ 1:38 PM ET
I also love Shesty but no more than $9.5m cap hit or trade him. We do have Benoit Allaire
- Greschnergy#4

https://nypost.com/2024/0...ing-back-coaching-duties/


picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jul 16 @ 1:41 PM ET
https://nypost.com/2024/06/02/sports/rangers-goalie-guru-benoit-allaire-scaling-back-coaching-duties/



- eichiefs9


you live for these moments
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 16 @ 1:45 PM ET
I just think there is a zero percent chance they trade Igor. The reason they aren’t spending this offseason is to budget for Miller, Igor and laf next summer
- TPC



If thats the case then no matter what, they will run it back, same team the following season also with no room to add another player.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Jul 16 @ 1:46 PM ET
https://nypost.com/2024/06/02/sports/rangers-goalie-guru-benoit-allaire-scaling-back-coaching-duties/



- eichiefs9



No cap for him- Just pay him more
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 16 @ 1:49 PM ET
You bring up Askarov every day. We know your take. Yelling it into the void here isn't doing anything.

Askarov may end up being a good goalie but look at his AHL numbers vs Shesterkin.

Askarov in the past 2 years had a 2.69/2.39 GAA and .911 S% in each season. Last season he was atrocious in the AHL playoffs with a 3.25 GAA and 0.882 S%.

Igor played half a year in the AHL and put up a 1.90 GAA and 0.934 S%.

He then went on to have what is on pace to be the start of a HoF career in the NHL.

A team trying to win now is not going to trade arguably the best goalie in the NHL right now, and one of the best playoff goalies in recent memory for a kid with 2 NHL games under his belt and a decent but somewhat uninspiring AHL career.

- SkjeiStadium

Gazillion percent correct

What would worry me about Askarov is Nashville has him in their system and they just signed their goalie for 8 years to big money (not as much as Shesty will get). But wouldn’t you just let him take the reins if he’s really that good? It’s definitely not a ringing endorsement for the kid they signed Saros. After about a year of rumors of him being moved too
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jul 16 @ 1:51 PM ET
Worry about the extension when/if it happens. I'm curious about if anything else happens this offseason
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jul 16 @ 2:04 PM ET
Worry about the extension when/if it happens. I'm curious about if anything else happens this offseason
- picklerick



Let's get to the start of this coming season before we worry too much about this. We worried like this over Zib when his original deal was ending and he took a good contract/discount to stay. Perhaps Shesty will, as well. He's nearing 30, so he isn't going to get a 7 year deal. 4-5 most likely. His requesting term by his agent is just a starting point, but will surely come down to earth...or so we all hope.

I am on the not paying him over $10M bandwagon, btw...
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 16 @ 2:08 PM ET
Let's get to the start of this coming season before we worry too much about this. We worried like this over Zib when his original deal was ending and he took a good contract/discount to stay. Perhaps Shesty will, as well. He's nearing 30, so he isn't going to get a 7 year deal. 4-5 most likely. His requesting term by his agent is just a starting point, but will surely come down to earth...or so we all hope.

I am on the not paying him over $10M bandwagon, btw...

- mames11

Shesty is going to want 7-8 years at $11 million+. That’s the reality.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jul 16 @ 2:09 PM ET
Shesty is going to want 7-8 years at $11 million+. That’s the reality.
- nyrangers9479



He's not getting that...that'a also a reality. No team will sign him for that unless it's San Jose.
banger94
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers
Joined: 04.11.2024

Jul 16 @ 2:23 PM ET
I don’t have the time to do the research at the moment, but who could realistically give him a big contract where he would want to play? Who has the cap space where he would still have a good team in front of him to be a contender?

Edit: and also needs a goalie.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Jul 16 @ 2:25 PM ET
He's not getting that...that'a also a reality. No team will sign him for that unless it's San Jose.
- mames11



In the end it will be what Dolan wants and whether he thinks Shesty is as marque as Henrik was. Florida has a crazy high-priced goalie but it not every day you can fleece another team to a cup (Calgary)
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jul 16 @ 2:29 PM ET
Not sure if anyone knows, but if you don't, the new Salary Cap website go-to is capwages.com

It's nearly identical to Cap Friendly.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 16 @ 3:03 PM ET
He's not getting that...that'a also a reality. No team will sign him for that unless it's San Jose.
- mames11

He’s absolutely getting $11+ million. I also think, but aren’t as positive it will be for 7-8 years. If I had to guess though, it will be.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 16 @ 3:19 PM ET
you live for these moments
- picklerick

Let's be fair here, I do plenty of reality-checking in the Islanders thread (among others) too. Like when people suggest trading 2 or 3 aging players on bad contracts with full NTC's for a good player.

Mostly it's just tongue-in-cheek I like most of the Rangers fans in here, with 27 exceptions
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