In a draft that isn’t super deep to begin with I understand the reach in a position of need with this kid given all that info.

Buium may end up very good. Nothing against the player. I do think it being a college kid with Cutter’s agent, even if it’s only optics and wouldn’t pan out worse case scenario, was enough to avoid that pick - at least putting a year between that debacle and this pick. If it happened twice in a row with the same agent we’d all cry malpractice. Some say that’s not a factor whatsoever, I say how can that not be a factor? It was a very public embarrassment.
- anti-lame

Again, I cant argue with any of this.

Again, I cant argue with any of this.
- MBFlyerfan

I would just say we should wait and see what happens with Farabee before we all decide the gm and the agent are happy with each other.

I hope he turns in to Mike Richards 2.0 with better skating.
- MBFlyerfan

Richie was already a much more accomplished player on draft day.

Maybe there's an outside chance that Luchanko can become a diet version of Dylan Larkin if he greatly improves as a goal scoring threat, but as of now he doesn't look anywhere close.

Richie was already a much more accomplished player on draft day.

Maybe there's an outside chance that Luchanko can become a diet version of Dylan Larkin if he greatly improves as a goal scoring threat, but as of now he doesn't look anywhere close.
- Tomahawk

I think it’s too early to say “outside chance” but what you’re describing is still a very good player

In a draft that isn’t super deep to begin with I understand the reach in a position of need with this kid given all that info.

Buium may end up very good. Nothing against the player. I do think it being a college kid with Cutter’s agent, even if it’s only optics and wouldn’t pan out worse case scenario, was enough to avoid that pick - at least putting a year between that debacle and this pick. If it happened twice in a row with the same agent we’d all cry malpractice. Some say that’s not a factor whatsoever, I say how can that not be a factor? It was a very public embarrassment.
- anti-lame

They have only to blame for that situation. They also cant draft in fear. When you do you likely lose in the end.

Yes I think is was factor and have said as much previously. how much? no idea. Also keep in mind the flyers "culture" and "management" is one of holding grudges and for lack of a better word vindictive.

Maybe they knew something fans do not in terms of signability. On the surface you take BPA.

They have only to blame for that situation. They also cant draft in fear. When you do you likely lose in the end.

Yes I think is was factor and have said as much previously. how much? no idea. Also keep in mind the flyers "culture" and "management" is one of holding grudges and for lack of a better word vindictive.

Maybe they knew something fans do not in terms of signability. On the surface you take BPA.
- hello it's me 2050

The only thing I am supporting is the pre-draft rankings were wrong on both players!
- jd250

Or they were right, and the Flyers are very wrong with their choices. The fact most specialists and teams were shocked that the Flyers took Luchenko and left Buium sitting there.

Kinda the same as when Arizona and Montreal passed on Michkov

Anything new with the Flyers today? My dream of offer sheeting Byfield is over.

So for those of you here who really follow the draft and the juniors, who is the Flyers best projected pick at like 12-16 overall next year?

Or they were right, and the Flyers are very wrong with their choices. The fact most specialists and teams were shocked that the Flyers took Luchenko and left Buium sitting there.

Kinda the same as when Arizona and Montreal passed on Michkov
- TheFreak

Not sure how you get all these team’s draft rankings. Not sure I saw any quotes from a bunch of teams saying they were shocked. I agree that a lot of “specialist” might have been shocked.

Not sure how you get all these team’s draft rankings. Not sure I saw any quotes from a bunch of teams saying they were shocked. I agree that a lot of “specialist” might have been shocked.
- peesinwind

I never said that....please don't put words in my mouth.

The general consensus after the draft was the surprise pick of the draft was the Flyers pick. I read a few articles where the Flyers were the laughing stock of the NHL with their decisions.

Good god this topic has been beaten to death already...the Flyers didn't take the perceived BPA. That was a mistake, then throw in the reasons Briere gave for trading the pick and not taking Buium. Regardless of if you have other similiar players, Buium is probably going to be better than the other 3. I don't expect Andrea to make it as a regular with the Flyers, and York and Drsydale are a nice 2nd pairing. It was a mistake in mine and many others eyes.

Anything new with the Flyers today? My dream of offer sheeting Byfield is over.

So for those of you here who really follow the draft and the juniors, who is the Flyers best projected pick at like 12-16 overall next year?
- mikeyo27

Absurd question, WAY too early. So I’ll give an absurd prediction:

1. They pick #6 next year
2. They select Cole McKinney (doesn’t matter if 6 or 12). They like the player so they take him.

I never said that....please don't put words in my mouth.

The general consensus after the draft was the surprise pick of the draft was the Flyers pick. I read a few articles where the Flyers were the laughing stock of the NHL with their decisions.

Good god this topic has been beaten to death already...the Flyers didn't take the perceived BPA. That was a mistake, then throw in the reasons Briere gave for trading the pick and not taking Buium. Regardless of if you have other similiar players, Buium is probably going to be better than the other 3. I don't expect Andrea to make it as a regular with the Flyers, and York and Drsydale are a nice 2nd pairing. It was a mistake in mine and many others eyes.
- TheFreak

Not sure you would have any credible source that would point out any other GM or organization that would say they were laughing at the Flyers pick is my point.

I guess my point is that it was a surprise pick from all our known rankings. That I agree with. And I like Zeev. Was surprised when they traded back to let Zeev be picked. I didn’t see Luchanko getting picked at 13. But I don’t know the other teams draft boards. No other team picked Zeev in the top 12 (not saying that they didn't have him ranked in their top 12), but only one team took him by the 12th pick. And we do know that no other team took Luchanko with their top 13th pick. After pick 1 their didn’t seem to be a lot of concences on who had a brighter future. Brier said, for what that’s worth, a call from another GM behind him saying he stole their pick. It was rumored that Luchanko wasn’t going past 16. Not sure that is accurate.

He was shooting up the public draft boards for sure and by my assessment had an impressive showing at the combine.

Zeev would have been a great pick in my opinion at 12. I do know that Brier claimed that their pipeline was in need of talent in the center position. And there wasn’t a lot of true center men in this draft. They took one.

Absurd question, WAY too early. So I’ll give an absurd prediction:

1. They pick #6 next year
2. They select Cole McKinney (doesn’t matter if 6 or 12). They like the player so they take him.
- coffee junkie

Perfect response!
Flyers 24-25 season motto:
“Wait ‘til the ‘25 Draft! We’ll be back!”

Perfect response!
Flyers 24-25 season motto:
“Wait ‘til the ‘25 Draft! We’ll be back!”
- mikeyo27

A different shade of orange from last year.

Not sure you would have any credible source that would point out
- peesinwind

any other GM or organization that would say they were laughing at the Flyers pick is my point.

I guess my point is that it was a surprise pick from all our known rankings. That I agree with. And I like Zeev. Was surprised when they traded back to let Zeev be picked. I didn’t see Luchanko getting picked at 13. But I don’t know the other teams draft boards. No other team picked Zeev in the top 12 (not saying that they didn't have him ranked in their top 12), but only one team took him by the 12th pick. And we do know that no other team took Luchanko with their top 13th pick. After pick 1 their didn’t seem to be a lot of concences on who had a brighter future. Brier said, for what that’s worth, a call from another GM behind him saying he stole their pick. It was rumored that Luchanko wasn’t going past 16. Not sure that is accurate.

He was shooting up the public draft boards for sure and by my assessment had an impressive showing at the combine.

Zeev would have been a great pick in my opinion at 12. I do know that Brier claimed that their pipeline was in need of talent in the center position. And there wasn’t a lot of true center men in this draft. They took one.

I never said that either.

And in a rebuild, without a top 10 pick in a year when anything after the #1 was up in the air...you take the consensus BPA.

And they didn't.

I never said that either.

And in a rebuild, without a top 10 pick in a year when anything after the #1 was up in the air...you take the consensus BPA.

And they didn't.
- TheFreak

To be fair, the BPA is determined by their scouting board, not the outside's board. I do agree with you though that it's fair to question that with how there was a general consensus, if he was actually the BPA. It's also fair to bring in that they haven't shown any real ability to go "off the board" to find that diamond in the rough.

To be fair, the BPA is determined by their scouting board, not the outside's board. I do agree with you though that it's fair to question that with how there was a general consensus, if he was actually the BPA. It's also fair to bring in that they haven't shown any real ability to go "off the board" to find that diamond in the rough.
- MJL

That is why I said you take the consensus BPA.

I don't dislike Luchenko at all...I am actually quite excited to see what he does this year and to see if he grows into a top tier prospect.

I just don't like picking a last minute riser over a guy who was projected top 10 all year. And I really dislike the 2nd round pick too.

That is why I said you take the consensus BPA.

I don't dislike Luchenko at all...I am actually quite excited to see what he does this year and to see if he grows into a top tier prospect.

I just don't like picking a last minute riser over a guy who was projected top 10 all year. And I really dislike the 2nd round pick too.
- TheFreak

Who determines the consensus BPA?

I don't disagree that their process and reasoning for this pick is an issue. I'm just saying, they aren't going by the outside consensus.