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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 27 @ 9:39 AM ET
No. I want to watch entertaining hockey.
- fattybeef


I get it, personally i want to compete for Cups. The good news if there was a way to watch entertaining hockey and compete for a cup sooner than later it's the aggressive nature in which KD has been rebuilding this team.

If he's right more so than wrong, i don't see the 6 to 10 year plan that many bottom dweller teams current or past are or were on.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 27 @ 9:50 AM ET
I get it, personally i want to compete for Cups. The good news if there was a way to watch entertaining hockey and compete for a cup sooner than later it's the aggressive nature in which KD has been rebuilding this team.

If he's right more so than wrong, i don't see the 6 to 10 year plan that many bottom dweller teams current or past are or were on.

- BetweenTheDots


Same. Bedard and some of the young dmen were about the only thing worth tuning in for last season, but I think with what KFC did this offseason, the team will be watchable.

While they are still likely not a playoff team, should be more fun to watch this season and playing meaningful games later into the season.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 27 @ 11:20 AM ET
As you all know, I like to compare current state of rebuilds.

this morning, the burning question in my mind, is which Blackhawk, in their offseason training, prepping for what will be a big season, is grinding their faces off, doing a one mile Burpee
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 27 @ 1:55 PM ET
I get it, personally i want to compete for Cups. The good news if there was a way to watch entertaining hockey and compete for a cup sooner than later it's the aggressive nature in which KD has been rebuilding this team.

If he's right more so than wrong, i don't see the 6 to 10 year plan that many bottom dweller teams current or past are or were on.

- BetweenTheDots


The point was that they are going to be in the mix either way and I'd rather see entertaining hockey then grindy low shot volume hockey.

So like 10 years of playoffs and super entertaining hockey > grindy trappy boring one cup is what I'm saying.
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:35 PM ET
i was enamored with the NJ rebuild....fast young team, come at you in waves. BUT, they were not built from the BACK to the front, neither are the King or a lot of teams. Its totally EYE Candy to draft super sexy Top 6 and think you can fill in the back end at the right time. Fools errand. Look at the teams that win SCs. Top D that SHUT teams down regardless of who their Top 6 is. Hawks, FL, Blues, Tampa....Model is to shut you down as the series goes on. It sure looks like Kyle from Chicago is taking that approach which is a Long Term sustainable model in my opinion - what say you on this july day? Oh, and who cares about the Olympics after that sad opening ceremony. Yikes
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 27 @ 6:11 PM ET
i was enamored with the NJ rebuild....fast young team, come at you in waves. BUT, they were not built from the BACK to the front, neither are the King or a lot of teams. Its totally EYE Candy to draft super sexy Top 6 and think you can fill in the back end at the right time. Fools errand. Look at the teams that win SCs. Top D that SHUT teams down regardless of who their Top 6 is. Hawks, FL, Blues, Tampa....Model is to shut you down as the series goes on. It sure looks like Kyle from Chicago is taking that approach which is a Long Term sustainable model in my opinion - what say you on this july day? Oh, and who cares about the Olympics after that sad opening ceremony. Yikes
- glennjpawlak22
goalie soild top 6 d core and strong down the middle. Hawks have the makings of that already if the drafted players pan out.
Commeso gajan in goal
Valsic Jones
Kk levashov
Delmastro Allen
Kaiser future score
Bedard Boisvert Moore lundwiski green and others down the middle
Nazar slaggert kurashev reichel dach and others on wings
Now not all prospects will pan out but looking at the prospect pool it looking very good going forward. And the time is right you add your odaya and hossa type players. Future looks bright for the Hawks and fans just have stay patient and see where this goes.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 27 @ 7:13 PM ET
As you all know, I like to compare current state of rebuilds.

this morning, the burning question in my mind, is which Blackhawk, in their offseason training, prepping for what will be a big season, is grinding their faces off, doing a one mile Burpee

- vabeachbear

Hopefully Reichel after he took a break to clear his head.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 27 @ 7:24 PM ET
Hopefully Reichel after he took a break to clear his head.
- rpeters01


I have a positive feeling about Reichel, I think he’ll get 40-50 points next season.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 27 @ 10:59 PM ET
I have a positive feeling about Reichel, I think he’ll get 40-50 points next season.
- DarthKane

Agree playing in lesser role with less pressure and better players around him I could see 15 goals 25 assists. The tools talent and skills are there just can he put it all together consistently. I see reichel as Michael frolik type player. Soild player bottom 6 player good on both sides of the puck good pk guy can contribute on the second unit pp. 40 to 50 point player
LaheysBRandy
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 04.28.2015

Jul 27 @ 11:45 PM ET
If so remind her to tell Brian he was merely fine in the 2013 playoffs and that the Hawks probably would've won that year regardless of his 9 goals, 17 points and 2 game winners.
- HawkintheD


Also no need mention his goal in game 6 vs. Boston.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 28 @ 1:04 AM ET
The point was that they are going to be in the mix either way and I'd rather see entertaining hockey then grindy low shot volume hockey.

So like 10 years of playoffs and super entertaining hockey > grindy trappy boring one cup is what I'm saying.

- fattybeef


Well i think it's more important to be able to be that team that is so deep other teams are forced to try to beat you at your own game.
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jul 28 @ 2:41 AM ET
I have a positive feeling about Reichel, I think he’ll get 40-50 points next season.
- DarthKane


But what about this season???
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 28 @ 12:06 PM ET
Alex Nylander has signed a 1 year AHL deal with the Toronto Marlies
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 28 @ 12:07 PM ET
But what about this season???

- dahawks8819


This season, 8 points. Then he’ll get waived, claimed by another team and get his 40-50 points the following season.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 28 @ 3:40 PM ET
Alex Nylander has signed a 1 year AHL deal with the Toronto Marlies
- DarthKane

#KFCfail
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 28 @ 7:15 PM ET
Also no need mention his goal in game 6 vs. Boston.
- LaheysBRandy


Oh that one? Some other 3rd line banger would've scored it or Panarin would've ripped one home standing at the top of the left circle.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 28 @ 9:57 PM ET
i was enamored with the NJ rebuild....fast young team, come at you in waves. BUT, they were not built from the BACK to the front, neither are the King or a lot of teams. It’s totally EYE Candy to draft super sexy Top 6 and think you can fill in the back end at the right time. Fools errand. Look at the teams that win SCs. Top D that SHUT teams down regardless of who their Top 6 is. Hawks, FL, Blues, Tampa....Model is to shut you down as the series goes on. It sure looks like Kyle from Chicago is taking that approach which is a Long Term sustainable model in my opinion - what say you on this july day? Oh, and who cares about the Olympics after that sad opening ceremony. Yikes
- glennjpawlak22

Agreed with EVERYTHING you said
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 28 @ 10:37 PM ET
Looking forward to rookies camp and a rookies Tournament And to see & hear about youngsters who show well in exhibition season
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 29 @ 10:59 AM ET
A report on the World Junior Summer Showcase.

Moore at 2C and A J Spellacy at 4RW on the USA Blue team. Moore with a goal in their 7-2 win over Sweden.

https://www.flohockey.tv/...news-and-notes-from-day-1
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 29 @ 11:17 AM ET
The final pieces are in place (the final pieces of what, I'm not sure). Phillips and Crevier signed one year deals.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
The final pieces are in place (the final pieces of what, I'm not sure). Phillips and Crevier signed one year deals.
- mohel



1 year $775,000 AAV and it’s a two-way deal for both of them.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 29 @ 11:32 AM ET
1 year $775,000 AAV and it’s a two-way deal for both of them.
- DarthKane


Some (not you) conflate "two-way deal" and waiver eligibility. As a reminder, the former does not affect the cap; it only impacts the Wirtz wallet. A two-way deal does not impact whether a player needs to clear waivers if sent to The Rock.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 29 @ 11:45 AM ET
Some (not you) conflate "two-way deal" and waiver eligibility. As a reminder, the former does not affect the cap; it only impacts the Wirtz wallet. A two-way deal does not impact whether a player needs to clear waivers if sent to The Rock.
- mohel


I believe Crevier will need to go through waivers but Phillips does not, but it could be the other way around. Regardless, I doubt either guy gets claimed at the start of the season. No doubt there will be better options on the waiver wire, at this point both guys have shown to be AHL caliber d-men.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 29 @ 11:46 AM ET
Some (not you) conflate "two-way deal" and waiver eligibility. As a reminder, the former does not affect the cap; it only impacts the Wirtz wallet. A two-way deal does not impact whether a player needs to clear waivers if sent to The Rock.
- mohel

Clear as mud.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 29 @ 11:48 AM ET
I believe Crevier will need to go through waivers but Phillips does not, but it could be the other way around. Regardless, I doubt either guy gets claimed at the start of the season. No doubt there will be better options on the waiver wire, at this point both guys have shown to be AHL caliber d-men.
- DarthKane

Tinordi and Megna are ahead of them.
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