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Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 25 @ 2:26 PM ET
Apples and trees.
- Tomahawk


Bias for action!!!
26912 PP
Season Ticket Holder
Location: Lucca
Joined: 06.27.2024

Jul 25 @ 2:26 PM ET
Why cant you resign someone and still be rebuilding? They feel they have a generational talent and don't want him to spend the next 4 years wishing he was back behind the iron curtain. The Flyers have the 2nd youngest team in the league and have 6 picks in the top 45 in a deep draft yr next yr. They also admittedly knew they would not make the playoffs after trading Walker and did so anyway. Sounds like a rebuild to me.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 25 @ 2:27 PM ET
if you think Rempe won that fight ya might want to give up your hockey card
- 26912 PP


Rempe won that fight lol.

I'm not saying Michkov cared about who won... more like he has no concept of skilled players requiring goon babysitters coming from the KHL. Hell, skilled players don't require goon babysitters in the NHL anymore either. It's just an antiquated mindset and probably pretty bizarre thing to show a Russian who just got off the plane.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 25 @ 2:28 PM ET
Any owner is gonna set parameters and expectations. And major moves (like TK's extension) do require the GM to seek approval.

Comcast probably will never give the hockey people the green light to tank. Hexy was denied that option. And based on how Briere talked when he first arrived, it doesn't seem like it was on the table for him either.

- Tomahawk

Well I disagree. They let them run the show. Maybe they should get involved as couldn't hurt. Parameter's and expectations are fine. Not buying the BS comcast wont let them rebuild. Not at all. It is the people they hired like danny boy making those choices

BS he was denied just another in a long line of incompetent GM's.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 25 @ 2:29 PM ET
1. They had 94% capacity last year. I will make a bet with you right now this will go up and more importantly stay up.

2. The (in)direct proof is adding up the 2 and 2s over the years. And there have been many such 2+2s. Over so many years, there have been different GM's, different players, different CEOS. The team has never committed to a real rebuild, from even before the salary cap. If it was clear that going that route and marrying hockey success with financial success was a feasible path, it would have happened by now.

3, Brian Roberts doesn't run this franchise, Hilferty does. Individual McDnonald franchises are also "small wheel" in the McDonald empire. But McDonald incentivizes the smallest of them to make money each year.

The current formula (old guard, pride, Torts, etc) is allowed to persist by guys like Dave Scott and Hilferty, who are used to ruthlessly changing course in corporate matters if necessary for 1 reason alone: that formula works here, and it makes money.

- PT21

ok
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 25 @ 2:32 PM ET
Bullies built this franchise up and proceeded to absolutely destroy it with Comcast.
- hereticpride

Comcast has a market cap or net worth of $149.09 billion as of July 25, 2024. Its market cap has decreased by -14.87% in one year.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 25 @ 2:35 PM ET
TK 8x8.75
- BenderRodriguez


sigh

rebuild over (never started)
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 25 @ 2:36 PM ET
He’s no Wayne Simmonds , talk about never getting paid
- ClaudeFather

Or the versatile potato 🥔 superstar Laughton 😋
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 25 @ 2:36 PM ET
If that’s how Comcast truly operates then we all need to get the (frank) out of dodge. Because they certainly don’t care about anything more than maintaining mediocrity.

Bill, before you issue your Comcast approved puff piece on this deal I just urge you to consider what bone headed moves like these have done time and time again to your beloved franchise. When does someone higher up have to own up it???

- hereticpride


Its not so much maintaining mediocrity or disdaining it, imo. If a rebuild was more financially profitable, it would have happened by now.

The Xfinity Center is undergoing an existential crisis. They are tying up with the Phillies to redevelop the area. Their primary tenant is trying their best to leave.

You want them to undergo several years of low attendance at this time?

Reddit (which I suspect has 20 times the viewership that HB does) is overjoyed at the signing.

Anyway, thats my take.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 25 @ 2:39 PM ET
Rempe won that fight lol.

I'm not saying Michkov cared about who won... more like he has no concept of skilled players requiring goon babysitters coming from the KHL. Hell, skilled players don't require goon babysitters in the NHL anymore either. It's just an antiquated mindset and probably pretty bizarre thing to show a Russian who just got off the plane.

- Tomahawk


But the fact that they made it public gives you a pretty good idea of future marketing strategy, no?


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 25 @ 2:39 PM ET
Why cant you resign someone and still be rebuilding? They feel they have a generational talent and don't want him to spend the next 4 years wishing he was back behind the iron curtain. The Flyers have the 2nd youngest team in the league and have 6 picks in the top 45 in a deep draft yr next yr. They also admittedly knew they would not make the playoffs after trading Walker and did so anyway. Sounds like a rebuild to me.
- 26912 PP


And?

DO you believe all of them will pan out? ( I don't)

And realistically they will all be 3-5 years from being legitimate NHL contributors.

They were always going to trade Walker, and what did they get? An injured Johansson and a first round pick what will probably be in the mid to late 20's

That ain't squat.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 25 @ 2:40 PM ET
Its not so much maintaining mediocrity or disdaining it, imo. If a rebuild was more financially profitable, it would have happened by now.

The Xfinity Center is undergoing an existential crisis. They are tying up with the Phillies to redevelop the area. Their primary tenant is trying their best to leave.

You want them to undergo several years of low attendance at this time?

Reddit (which I suspect has 20 times the viewership that HB does) is overjoyed at the signing.

Anyway, thats my take
.

- PT21

correct
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 25 @ 2:41 PM ET
Being reported the first six years are a full NMC and the a modified for the remaining two years where he provides a list of teams
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 25 @ 2:44 PM ET
Being reported the first six years are a full NMC and the a modified for the remaining two years where he provides a list of teams
- Flyfly


That 12m figure his agent leaked was a warning shot across the bows that if they want to sign him, there will be no hometown discount and he will extract every bit he can.

And he has.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 25 @ 2:44 PM ET
Being reported the first six years are a full NMC and the a modified for the remaining two years where he provides a list of teams
- Flyfly

last 2 years will be unmovable anyway so doesn't matter. full 8 year NMC at the end of the day
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 25 @ 2:44 PM ET
And?

DO you believe all of them will pan out? ( I don't)

- MBFlyerfan


I'd be surprised if some of those picks don't end up getting traded away, either for immediate help or in more cute draft table shenanigans.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 25 @ 2:48 PM ET
Being reported the first six years are a full NMC and the a modified for the remaining two years where he provides a list of teams
- Flyfly

That is great for Konecny! But the flyers hands are tied
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 25 @ 2:48 PM ET
last 2 years will be unmovable anyway so doesn't matter. full 8 year NMC at the end of the day
- hello it's me 2050


Yep, in 2033 we will be wondering why the flyers can’t make moves. How many 8 years deals is Danny going to give out!?
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Jul 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
Why cant you resign someone and still be rebuilding? They feel they have a generational talent and don't want him to spend the next 4 years wishing he was back behind the iron curtain. The Flyers have the 2nd youngest team in the league and have 6 picks in the top 45 in a deep draft yr next yr. They also admittedly knew they would not make the playoffs after trading Walker and did so anyway. Sounds like a rebuild to me.
- 26912 PP

This extension just makes it harder. It takes free agency off the table. Yes they have 6 picks but they need a top line center which traditional go top 5 in any draft. They likely won’t be bad enough now to make that happen.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
Kinda wholesome that Sanheim broke the news lol:



THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
Apparently the Wells Fargo Center will be getting a new name next year.
- MBFlyerfan

"The Maga Center"
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
Kinda wholesome that Sanheim broke the news lol:




- Tomahawk


TBH that is funny 😄
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
Kinda wholesome that Sanheim broke the news lol:




- Tomahawk

the 2 butt buddies who are part of the decade of constant losing. they thrive in losing and enjoy it so it seems.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 25 @ 3:03 PM ET
See you tomorrow
- BenderRodriguez


😂
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jul 25 @ 3:10 PM ET
TK 8x8.75
- BenderRodriguez

Nailed it.

That NMC is a killer
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