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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 29 @ 4:33 PM ET
Yeah, already threw out a pair of shorts, shirt, socks, pillow cases, sheets and comforter. At this point, I think that's it, but good thoughts. Thank you HS.
- QuinnFan


Throw out that attitude while your at it.

Ryan Mcleod is him.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 29 @ 4:38 PM ET
Right now, yes. I don't think he's the first ballot HOFer Minnie thinks he is, but he is very good/practically came out of nowhere.
- QuinnFan


Brock has been very good for several years in college. He was well known for those that take notice of the college game much.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 29 @ 5:00 PM ET
https://x.com/pennypacker...&t=UzsN3ku257DyNY95Tq7n4w

So we have a trade for Necas and he wouldn’t sign here.

Lovely
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 29 @ 5:20 PM ET
https://x.com/pennypacker_h/status/1817995682940408038?s=46&t=UzsN3ku257DyNY95Tq7n4w

So we have a trade for Necas and he wouldn’t sign here.

Lovely

- Sabretooth9


That guy also...
atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Jul 29 @ 5:36 PM ET
Australian wife, I'm going down there in December this year. We are going to look into waterfront property and if we like it, we are going to spend one more year in NYC, have a second child then make the move. I'll flip houses down there.

If I don't like it, we move full time to Fort Lauderdale.

- washedup20


Cool - I used to Perth all the time for work. Lots of waterfront property over there though! I hope that everything works out.


Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 29 @ 5:40 PM ET
https://x.com/pennypacker_h/status/1817995682940408038?s=46&t=UzsN3ku257DyNY95Tq7n4w

So we have a trade for Necas and he wouldn’t sign here.

Lovely

- Sabretooth9

Well does it surprise you if this was True ? Adams hasn't done enough to change the Aura.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 29 @ 6:26 PM ET
Cool - I used to Perth all the time for work. Lots of waterfront property over there though! I hope that everything works out.
- atlsabsfan


Thanks. yeah I’m excited to go down check it out, her family lives in Sydney. I don’t know if we’ll make it over to Perth.
BuffaloHerd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Southern Tier, NY
Joined: 07.06.2024

Jul 29 @ 6:42 PM ET
Well does it surprise you if this was True ? Adams hasn't done enough to change the Aura.
- Buff36


It wouldn't be a surprise, but I'm also a bit skeptical of him. I don't think he even wanted to sign long term with Canes without being guaranteed playing time/position. Appears as though he might have some of those traits that McGroaty displayed (entitled).
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 29 @ 7:01 PM ET
Thanks. yeah I’m excited to go down check it out, her family lives in Sydney. I don’t know if we’ll make it over to Perth.
- washedup20


When I lived in Singapore I used to visit Australia every year.

Sydney Perth Victoria Melbourne brisbourne among other places

Amazing place and lots to do from white water rafting rock climbing/abseiling numerous water sports some of the best beaches in the world

Family friends live in Melbourne and love it

Very laid back atmosphere in Australia where people help each other out but very hard working and make the most out of everything

Other than all the animals wanting to kill you it is a great place

The only downside is it can be very expensive to find somewhere but quality of life is great


Gerbe would love the surfs up vibe
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 29 @ 7:10 PM ET
When I lived in Singapore I used to visit Australia every year.

Sydney Perth Victoria Melbourne brisbourne among other places

Amazing place and lots to do from white water rafting rock climbing/abseiling numerous water sports some of the best beaches in the world

Family friends live in Melbourne and love it

Very laid back atmosphere in Australia where people help each other out but very hard working and make the most out of everything

Other than all the animals wanting to kill you it is a great place

The only downside is it can be very expensive to find somewhere but quality of life is great


Gerbe would love the surfs up vibe

- dmarsden2988



Very cool, thanks for sharing.
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Jul 29 @ 7:49 PM ET
Very cool, thanks for sharing.
- washedup20

To get a good sense of Australian cinema, watch The Adventures of Priscilla Queen of the Desert.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 29 @ 10:00 PM ET
To get a good sense of Australian cinema, watch The Adventures of Priscilla Queen of the Desert.
- Jet Jaguar BD

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 29 @ 10:01 PM ET
Well does it surprise you if this was True ? Adams hasn't done enough to change the Aura.
- Buff36

if he was gm in any of the other 31 markets, he would have lost his job twice by now

TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jul 29 @ 10:28 PM ET
if he was gm in any of the other 31 markets, he would have lost his job twice by now
- homiedclown

This is generous
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 30 @ 6:11 AM ET
if he was gm in any of the other 31 markets, he would have lost his job twice by now
- homiedclown

And it really sucks, cause it's affecting the product on the Ice
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 30 @ 7:01 AM ET
https://x.com/JoeMarinoBU...amp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jul 30 @ 7:14 AM ET
if he was gm in any of the other 31 markets, he would have lost his job twice by now
- homiedclown


Name me one of the other 31 teams that would put a rink manager with zero front office experience in the GM position…. I don’t think he’d even sniff a GM gig with any other nhl club, let alone have the chance to be fired by one.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 30 @ 7:19 AM ET
And it really sucks, cause it's affecting the product on the Ice
- Buff36


Peterka Tage Tuch - soft
Zucker Cozens Quinn - soft
Benson McLeod Krebs - tiny and soft
Malenstyn Lafferty Greenway - This combo is like when you go to a smorgasburg and your starving so just throw everything you see onto a plate, regardless if its good.

Dahlin Byram - too similar in play style
Power Joker - mediocre on their best day
Clifton Samuelsson - have these guys ever played a shift together?

UPL - inconsistent
Reimer - irrelevant

The 1st game of the season, all LA will have to do is send Jeanott out to beat the brains off this weak roster and they will fold.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 30 @ 7:35 AM ET




Pesce nixed us I thought,not Necas

- homiedclown


I guess he actually talked with buffalo but there was no way he was giving up the chance to play at home.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 30 @ 7:37 AM ET
I guess he actually talked with buffalo but there was no way he was giving up the chance to play at home.
- TheSabresTaco


Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 30 @ 7:43 AM ET
I guess he actually talked with buffalo but there was no way he was giving up the chance to play at home.
- TheSabresTaco

Gonna be Adams fair well saying " I Heard No A Lot"
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 30 @ 8:45 AM ET
Throw out that attitude while your at it.

Ryan Mcleod is him.

- DirtyDan


This is a solid post.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 30 @ 8:48 AM ET
Brock has been very good for several years in college. He was well known for those that take notice of the college game much.
- IonSabres


Was he? I had read he basically had a great junior year, which got him the ELC, but the previous two seasons he was meh. Personally, I don't watch NCAA though, just going off the talking heads. Was he pretty well touted prior?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 30 @ 9:02 AM ET
Name me one of the other 31 teams that would put a rink manager with zero front office experience in the GM position…. I don’t think he’d even sniff a GM gig with any other nhl club, let alone have the chance to be fired by one.
- Gr8daygo

Kim and Terry knew more than guys like Duds, Lafontaine and they phucking know a hell of a lot more than we do



IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 30 @ 9:17 AM ET
https://x.com/JoeMarinoBUF/status/1818029363654517220?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
- Buff36


One of the responders to his post snarky asked for him "now do the rest of the metrics" inferring once again that Skinner was a drain in the team.

So I decided to look up Jeff's metrics on Natural Stattrick. I usually look at With/Without CorsiFor metric to get a sense of his impact on the game isolated with a player's most common teammates.
I found what I consider to be pretty cool result, in most cases the CF% with individual teammates was higher than BOTH the Teammate's Without Jeff and the Jeff without that teammate's CF%.
As an example:
Jeff & Owen Power =54.26%
Jeff w/o Power = 50.23%
Power w/o Jeff = 50.59%
This result was similar to nearly every other if his most common linemates, except Tage where Tage had significantly higher CF% without Jeff than Jeff did w/o Tage.
Another was Krebs, but both Krebs and Skinner has significantly higher CF% without each other than they did together.
Weird. (I got the memo to use this word a lot).
The metrics above were for the last two seasons.

Skinner also had a very slight negative +/- of -2...not very damning.

Shots For with his most common teammates were consistently higher than Shots against (over 2 year span)

GF were higher in a high % of teammates than GA.

xGF and xGA were very, very close.

Scoring Chances For generally were higher than Scoring Chances Against in most cases

The biggest area where Skinner has bad metrics were in the HDCF vs HDCA ... They were negative in the vast majority of cases.
I'll remind everyone here that the Sabres as a whole +maybe better as a "hole") were terrible as a team in HDCF vs HDCA. Jeff surely contributed here, but so did nearly every player in the roster.

So, I remain unconvinced that buying out Skinner was the best move for a team that needs to increase scoring. They do need to significantly reduce HDCA however, and the entirety of the roster shares in that hit.
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