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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 25 @ 12:56 PM ET
They may say this is their goal, but we all know it's not. What was the line? Economic and efficient?
- Lunaion

jello inflation
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 25 @ 1:10 PM ET
he scored more goals than marner over the last 3 years

that's not what third liners do unless you have vanek on the third line and you are rolling 3 lines

- homiedclown


Playing devil's advocate:

There's more to being a 1st liner than goals. Nick Paul had the same stat line, Zetterlund was very similar...those guys aren't top line talents either I'm sure we'd agree.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 25 @ 1:12 PM ET
Well 8.75M x 8 for Konency.

He ain't going anywhere.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 25 @ 1:17 PM ET
Playing devil's advocate:

There's more to being a 1st liner than goals. Nick Paul had the same stat line, Zetterlund was very similar...those guys aren't top line talents either I'm sure we'd agree.

- QuinnFan

you don't remove skinner and replace him with zucker for your big top 9 move if trying to go from a lottery team to a cup contender

esp when you already dumped casey a few months ago for a d man and beavis scores more than you
BuffaloHerd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Southern Tier, NY
Joined: 07.06.2024

Jul 25 @ 1:22 PM ET
What's best case scenario for them?

Selling off Greenway in favor of Kulich? Or selling off Greenway(+) for a guy like Farabee, who puts up 50-60 points right now. Then what do you have next year?

Peterka-Thompson-Tuch
Farabee-Cozens-Quinn
Benson-McLeod-x
Larry^3

Then it's a battle next year for that spot. This year as well if you use Greenway.

- TheSabresTaco


Farabee likely comes in as the 2LW but eventually may get passed by one of prospects and becomes a trade candidate in a couple years. I think a RD is a bigger need and Greenway + a LD could be used to obtained that. If we could get a good 2nd pair RD, then I'm OK with Benson/Zucker competing for the 2LW spot and having Rosen and/or Kulich getting NHL time on the 3rd line this year.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 25 @ 1:25 PM ET
Well 8.75M x 8 for Konency.

He ain't going anywhere.

- QuinnFan

What happened to 10mill
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 25 @ 1:29 PM ET
What happened to 10mill
- Buff36


That was with the Bufftax
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 25 @ 1:38 PM ET
You're telling me Farabee would cost a first, and 2 roster players? I dont see it


A guy who doesn't play pk, isn't good defensively, isn't good on the pp.

- DirtyDan


I don't either, especially considering Farabee is a guy torts doesn't like (like granato didn't like oloffson) adn farabee is a year removed from experimental spoinal surgery where he went around 30 games without a goal afterwards. If you want to boost your top 6 don't trade for a guy who legitimately could be worse than what are system has (Kulich), go for a guy that is a no doubt top 6 - Konectny, Ehlers, Zegras.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 25 @ 1:40 PM ET
you don't remove skinner and replace him with zucker for your big top 9 move if trying to go from a lottery team to a cup contender

esp when you already dumped casey a few months ago for a d man and beavis scores more than you

- homiedclown


I can agree with that. I just don't think it means Skinner was top line material. His puck control and passing is just not good enough any more. He's one of the best in the league with the puck on his stick below the hashes. He's a big loss. But can also see the other side of the coin there as all.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 25 @ 1:41 PM ET
What happened to 10mill
- Buff36


That was the ask I guess. Similar rumors popped up around the same time, but I am a little surprised he came in under 9M after that. Figured Philly was stuck paying him or moving him on the cheap due to that ask. Someone would've coughed up an extra mil if he really pushed it I'd wager.
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Jul 25 @ 2:16 PM ET
chiefs got rid of hill and then won 2 super bowls

perhaps by removing diggs we have more options now

- homiedclown

So very true!
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Jul 25 @ 2:20 PM ET
I think Farabee's value is close to that of Samuelsson. Buff36 has mentioned Attard (RD that is at the point of being in the NHL). So since we have extra forwards, I proposed Samuelsson + Krebs for Farabee + Attard. Question mark is what will Attard be a 3rd pair ceiling or an eventual 2nd pair RD. I'm pretty sure Flyers would like another center (so Krebs might need to be part of the deal), and I've heard they like both Krebs and Samuelsson.
- BuffaloHerd

If Jinx 36 names a player to Buffalo it is NOT happening!!
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Jul 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
chiefs got rid of hill and then won 2 super bowls

perhaps by removing diggs we have more options now

- homiedclown

Addition by subtraction ! Remind an a$$hole and get good people things change.
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Jul 25 @ 2:28 PM ET
The Aura from the Magic Jock shall flow through the Lockeroom and lift us to the Promise Land!
- Buff36

You stiffing jocks again?
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Jul 25 @ 2:34 PM ET
They didn't want 9 million dollars making a third line impact.
- TheSabresTaco

Who is going to feed him the puck? And as Jinx 36 says a BLACK HOLE on the d !
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Jul 25 @ 2:36 PM ET
Yeah, the skinner move wasn’t made to “improve” the team and spend the $ on a different player
- Boss34

Your and your source?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 25 @ 2:37 PM ET
Who is going to feed him the puck? And as Jinx 36 says a BLACK HOLE on the d !
- Rsh

Never Said That! Time for the Bus to pick you Up and take you Home, don't want to miss curfew
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 25 @ 2:40 PM ET
Curious if Philly wanted to lock up Konecny before dealing Farabee.

That's a hell of a contract for a rebuilding team. Looks like they're doing the Chicago and trying to ride the balance beam of trying and not trying to win
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 25 @ 2:44 PM ET
You stiffing jocks again?
- Rsh



Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Jul 25 @ 2:45 PM ET
why have dahlin, tage, power, etc if you are still not going to ice the best team possible and compete for a cup

I think that is what is frustrating half of the base on this board

not that they moved skinner

but once again this summer we are trying to get that 7th or 8th seed again this spring instead of aiming the bar higher and trying to compete for a cup and once again in a cap era leaving all that cap space on the table
Hey genius. First you have to make it to the dance. Then you worry about the CUP!!
rant over

- homiedclown

Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jul 25 @ 2:47 PM ET
Lindy didn’t want skinner

Nothing to do with cap savings

- Boss34


I think that about sums it up.
If they want to preach that everyone buys in and plays just as hard without the puck as they do with it, Skinner doesn’t seem to be a player that you’d want in that lineup. I think that’s why grind ‘amour wanted him out of Carolina.

LoL, the auto correct on Rod the Bod’s name is fitting, so I’ll leave it be.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 25 @ 2:52 PM ET
Curious if Philly wanted to lock up Konecny before dealing Farabee.

That's a hell of a contract for a rebuilding team. Looks like they're doing the Chicago and trying to ride the balance beam of trying and not trying to win

- TheSabresTaco



That would make a lot of sense. Good thought.

I really think Farabee would be a great add, depending on the price.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
Curious if Philly wanted to lock up Konecny before dealing Farabee.

That's a hell of a contract for a rebuilding team. Looks like they're doing the Chicago and trying to ride the balance beam of trying and not trying to win

- TheSabresTaco

Are they still in the Red Cap wise this Year ?
Edit: Looks like there still 900,000 thousand in the whole.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
he scored more goals than marner over the last 3 years

that's not what third liners do unless you have vanek on the third line and you are rolling 3 lines

- homiedclown


1 more goal over those 3 years. And Mitch is a past first player... so what does that tell me... Not much of a flex


Mitch scored 2 more last year and had more assists than Skinner had pts. IDk what you're getting at but Skinner fvckin sucks dude
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 25 @ 3:03 PM ET
The loss of leadership like this...Adams crying was justified:

https://x.com/BR_OpenIce/...tatus/1816541780646760922
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