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nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 26 @ 12:58 PM ET
So close...

https://nypost.com/2022/0...ring-effects-of-covid-19/

- blacksheep1

Troll post. Almost everyone admits now the lockdowns and turning life upside down was completely unnecessary and did little to help. You must be one of those quad vaxxed that’s still gotten covid 6x and tell everyone, “but if I wasn’t vaxxed it would’ve been worse!!!” Get out of ur basement and get some fresh air
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Jul 26 @ 1:10 PM ET
You can’t put Laf on the 3rd line.

I’d be ok with
Panarin Zib Kakko
Kreider Trocheck Laf

That’s telling Kakko, we’re giving u absolutely everything u need to succeed. If u still can’t put up 45-55 pts, you just stink.

- nyrangers9479


I do believe it's time to seperate Kreider and Zib. They need a time out from each other.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 26 @ 1:13 PM ET
Troll post. Almost everyone admits now the lockdowns and turning life upside down was completely unnecessary and did little to help. You must be one of those quad vaxxed that’s still gotten covid 6x and tell everyone, “but if I wasn’t vaxxed it would’ve been worse!!!” Get out of ur basement and get some fresh air
- nyrangers9479



https://www.espn.com/nhl/...sutter-retires-13-seasons

But wait, there is more.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
You can’t put Laf on the 3rd line.

I’d be ok with
Panarin Zib Kakko
Kreider Trocheck Laf

That’s telling Kakko, we’re giving u absolutely everything u need to succeed. If u still can’t put up 45-55 pts, you just stink.

- nyrangers9479



I was thinking

Pan Tro KK

Zib CK20 Laffy
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 26 @ 1:23 PM ET
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/38551250/veteran-forward-brandon-sutter-retires-13-seasons

But wait, there is more.

- blacksheep1

Get some fresh air, being locked in ur moms basement since 2019 has gotten to ur brain
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Jul 26 @ 1:27 PM ET
Bold Idea.

If the Rangers cannot get over the hump to win the cup this coming year, I would consider trading Chris Krieder. His contract is not trade prohibited at 6.5 AAV and his production. His contract is now 15 team limited, not a full NMC.
Unless he falls off, he would return decent value, allow players to move up and free up salary, especially if they are going to trade Trouba.

Considering the recent demeanor on here, I will qualify that this is not a backseat GM statement and a demand of what they should or have to do. Just a random thought.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 26 @ 1:28 PM ET
Get some fresh air, being locked in ur moms basement since 2019 has gotten to ur brain
- nyrangers9479

Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker.

https://thehockeynews.com...matt-niskanens-retirement
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 26 @ 1:29 PM ET
Bold Idea.

If the Rangers cannot get over the hump to win the cup this coming year, I would consider trading Chris Krieder. His contract is not trade prohibited at 6.5 AAV and his production. His contract is now 15 team limited, not a full NMC.
Unless he falls off, he would return decent value, allow players to move up and free up salary, especially if they are going to trade Trouba.

Considering the recent demeanor on here, I will qualify that this is not a backseat GM statement and a demand of what they should or have to do. Just a random thought.

- NYRCeph

This is not a hot take, other have discussed it. If they don't win, anything and everything should be on the table.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Jul 26 @ 1:31 PM ET
I was thinking

Pan Tro KK

Zib CK20 Laffy

- Brukie



I have been asking for this since Kakko came back from his injury. If bread can’t you get you going in the regular season then you really do suck
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 26 @ 1:34 PM ET
Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker.

https://thehockeynews.com...matt-niskanens-retirement

- blacksheep1


Why are we going back to Covid?

I dont see where you are going with this?
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jul 26 @ 1:38 PM ET
holy (frank)ing poop with this poop
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 26 @ 1:40 PM ET
Why are we going back to Covid?

I dont see where you are going with this?

- Brukie

Idk, People brought it up. To say it didn't effect the NHL is not accurate.
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Jul 26 @ 1:54 PM ET
This is not a hot take, other have discussed it. If they don't win, anything and everything should be on the table.
- blacksheep1


Not so much as me presenting a "hot take". I don't read all posts, so not sure what was discussed. So I would say I agree with the possible idea.

And trying to steer conversation away from other topics.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 1:58 PM ET
Bold Idea.

If the Rangers cannot get over the hump to win the cup this coming year, I would consider trading Chris Krieder. His contract is not trade prohibited at 6.5 AAV and his production. His contract is now 15 team limited, not a full NMC.
Unless he falls off, he would return decent value, allow players to move up and free up salary, especially if they are going to trade Trouba.

Considering the recent demeanor on here, I will qualify that this is not a backseat GM statement and a demand of what they should or have to do. Just a random thought.

- NYRCeph

The time to trade Kreider was this summer. His value would never be higher coming off of almost 40 goals and 75 points, plus the production in the playoffs. They would have maxed out. Don’t think the value would be there next year as he will most likely regress some and a year older
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 26 @ 2:01 PM ET
The time to trade Kreider was this summer. His value would never be higher coming off of almost 40 goals and 75 points, plus the production in the playoffs. They would have maxed out. Don’t think the value would be there next year as he will most likely regress some and a year older
- TPC



Id hate to do it because he isnt the reason the Rangers havent made it to the finals. It would definitely be a drastic change though.

I honestly dont see them doing this.

If Drury is still here when Panarin's contract is up, I can see him not extending him since it is well know Drury isnt happy with his playoff performances.
TC88
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.24.2020

Jul 26 @ 2:03 PM ET
It's impossible. Kakko is a below average nhl player.
- blacksheep1


It’s unlikely, not impossible.

Kakko is above average in many areas of the game, just not the ones we expected. Like others are saying, give him one last chance to prove himself surrounded by talent and if not, PEACE OUT.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 2:06 PM ET
Id hate to do it because he isnt the reason the Rangers havent made it to the finals. It would definitely be a drastic change though.

I honestly dont see them doing this.

If Drury is still here when Panarin's contract is up, I can see him not extending him since it is well know Drury isnt happy with his playoff performances.

- Brukie

I agree, just saying the value will never be higher to max out now. Just don’t see it next summer happening
t-dawg
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.24.2022

Jul 26 @ 2:10 PM ET
Anyone here see the Jeff Marek news? Looks like he's out at Sportsnet.

I found it weird that he just kind of disappeared after day 1 of the draft, and his producer finished up hosting the last half week of his radio show after free agency. Seems like something weird happened, but no one is saying anything.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 26 @ 2:20 PM ET
The time to trade Kreider was this summer. His value would never be higher coming off of almost 40 goals and 75 points, plus the production in the playoffs. They would have maxed out. Don’t think the value would be there next year as he will most likely regress some and a year older
- TPC

Every time you tackle this subject, it sends me for a loop. I just can't grasp that you are pondering the idea in your own mind.
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Jul 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
The time to trade Kreider was this summer. His value would never be higher coming off of almost 40 goals and 75 points, plus the production in the playoffs. They would have maxed out. Don’t think the value would be there next year as he will most likely regress some and a year older
- TPC


Agreed, but they were never going to entertain it this year. But there is a logic next year if they decide to move into the next generation, trading Trouba. If his production doesn't drop off too much, who knows year to year, then it still is a good return since his cap hit is a good deal for his production with only 2 more years.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jul 26 @ 2:41 PM ET
So Kakko+ for Laine at 50% eh? That's a good'un
fish_hoof
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.29.2022

Jul 26 @ 2:43 PM ET
So Kakko+ for Laine at 50% eh? That's a good'un
- picklerick


I actually was thinking a third line of Laine, Chytle, and Kakko might be solid.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jul 26 @ 2:45 PM ET
I actually was thinking a third line of Laine, Chytle, and Kakko might be solid.
- fish_hoof


Then who are you trading to making cap room with (and who are you trading that they would want)? With Laine at 50% retained that leaves like $4m in cap space for Lindgren if he will take that. That only allows us to carry 2 extras. Also, why wouldn't you put a potential gamebreaker like Laine with Mika and Kreider?

fish_hoof
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.29.2022

Jul 26 @ 2:47 PM ET
Then who are you trading to making cap room with (and who are you trading that they would want)? With Laine at 50% retained that leaves like $4m in cap space for Lindgren if he will take that. That only allows us to carry 2 extras. Also, why wouldn't you put a potential gamebreaker like Laine with Mika and Kreider?
- picklerick


Forgive me, I thought he was released from the blue jackets… no contract. Ek (I know, I know) said he was given permission to speak to teams… I glazed over and assumed he wasn’t under contract but yes… what you said makes sense. My bad.
fish_hoof
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.29.2022

Jul 26 @ 2:48 PM ET
I also think he’s LW not RW.
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