MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Actually it’s spot on! Your ability to have an intelligent conversation is abysmal. - jd250
Delusional
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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A smart team trades Laughton at the 2023 trade deadline and TK at the 2023 draft. A smart team does what it needs to do to keep a blue chip prospect, Gauthier, happy, a smart team trades Seeler last season rather than extending him and they certainly don’t extend Hathaway.
The Flyers are the polar opposite of a smart team. But yeah, go ahead and call me a moron Bill while you keep defending this floundering joke of an organization. |
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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A smart team trades Laughton at the 2023 trade deadline and TK at the 2023 draft. A smart team does what it needs to do to keep a blue chip prospect, Gauthier, happy, a smart team trades Seeler last season rather than extending him and they certainly don’t extend Hathaway.
The Flyers are the polar opposite of a smart team. But yeah, go ahead and call me a moron Bill while you keep defending this floundering joke of an organization. - BiggE
I’m not sure what “the Plan” jones talked about is? I’m pretty sure they don’t know. But it buys them time. Maybe they can fall azz lucky into a team that’s not mediocre within the next decade.
If this is their attempt at a rebuild then sadly Briere is no better than the last guy, regardless of how the media is spinning him as some smart young exec. |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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I’m not sure what “the Plan” jones talked about is? I’m pretty sure they don’t know. But it buys them time. Maybe they can fall azz lucky into a team that’s not mediocre within the next decade.
If this is their attempt at a rebuild then sadly Briere is no better than the last guy, regardless of how the media is spinning him as some smart young exec. - landros 2
Their plan is to spend every dollar right up to the cap for short term gain. At best, if they really get lucky, they’ll end up with a team that can win a round or 2 for a few seasons. More likely though, they’ll end up with a bubble team for a few years before it all implodes again and the cycle restarts.
They are the hockey ops version of Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. |
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Buff36
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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So what's Farabee worth to you Guys ? |
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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So what's Farabee worth to you Guys ? - Buff36
You’re 1rst round pick 4 weeks ago…lol |
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roenick97
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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A smart team trades Laughton at the 2023 trade deadline and TK at the 2023 draft. A smart team does what it needs to do to keep a blue chip prospect, Gauthier, happy, a smart team trades Seeler last season rather than extending him and they certainly don’t extend Hathaway.
The Flyers are the polar opposite of a smart team. But yeah, go ahead and call me a moron Bill while you keep defending this floundering joke of an organization. - BiggE
Hard to argue. I mean, the Hathaway deal looks bad to me due to term and everyone that was signed around him. If you sign one plug and not all of them, it doesn’t look as bad to me. |
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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT Joined: 12.09.2006
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A smart team trades Laughton at the 2023 trade deadline and TK at the 2023 draft. A smart team does what it needs to do to keep a blue chip prospect, Gauthier, happy, a smart team trades Seeler last season rather than extending him and they certainly don’t extend Hathaway.
The Flyers are the polar opposite of a smart team. But yeah, go ahead and call me a moron Bill while you keep defending this floundering joke of an organization. - BiggE
He knows who butters his bread
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How do you know the Flyers didn't explore the market and decided there wasn't anything worth doing? Maybe they dangled TK to move up into the top 5 this draft and teams refused. You don't know anything to truly be able to make this response. And being patient means there is a good chance they head to the deadline and TK is a rental, which brings back a late 1st round pick and maybe a decent prospect. None of this moves the needle for the Flyers IMO. The Flyers need a 1C and 1D, and TK has not getting them that, either by a player to player swap or trading him for a high pick. - jd250
bringing back tk doesn't move the needle in the direction the flyers need it to move.
that is false as you can then use those assets in a variety of ways.
So you bring back tk because he can't bring back a top center or d. Great logic.
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corduroy
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Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT Joined: 12.09.2006
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So what's Farabee worth to you Guys ? - Buff36
To gmdb I am sure 8x7.75 |
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I think the best option for the Flyers was to try to trade TK to move up to the top 5 and get Demidov in this draft, and I think that is exactly what they tried to do and teams balked. What you don't understand is if you trade TK, you are creating another huge hole on the team that you have to fill. TK is a top line RW in this league that can play even strength, PK and PP, plus is a proven leader. If playing with better players, he can easily top 90 points in a season. Those players don't grow on trees! My problem with this deal and I still don't see a path to get better players on this team while TK is still in his prime, and that is why I would preferred a reset. I hope the Flyers have a plan and I just don't know what it is yet. - jd250
this team stinks with tk and would be the same without him. that is what you don't understand. where they are at currently losing tk is no great shakes at all |
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Maybe. But once I found out he had the same agent as Gauthier, I think that cleared up why the Flyers passed. I really think Luchenko has a good chance to develop into a good player within a couple of seasons. - jd250
is that smart business or management? |
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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It's frustrating that some of us on here could see what needs to happen and yet everyone that is supposed to be "a hockey guy" or from the Wharton Business school cant seem to see it. It was so simple.
Move Laughton and Konecny
Try to be a bottom 5 team this year and next because of the players available at the top of the draft
Don't resign Hathaway and use him as trade bait at TDL
Don't buyout Atkinson
These moves are not super tough and I feel were pretty straightforward.
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Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 08.24.2019
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It's frustrating that some of us on here could see what needs to happen and yet everyone that is supposed to be "a hockey guy" or from the Wharton Business school cant seem to see it. It was so simple.
Move Laughton and Konecny
Try to be a bottom 5 team this year and next because of the players available at the top of the draft
Don't resign Hathaway and use him as trade bait at TDL
Don't buyout Atkinson
These moves are not super tough and I feel were pretty straightforward. - J35Bacher
i have been a fan for over 30 years. used to watch all the games, follow prospects in juniors, college. last year, i don't think i watched a full game after the first. now, i could almost care less. didn't watch the draft. only came on here after i heard tk was resigned. this team died with E.S.
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WhiskeyMan
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Location: PA Joined: 04.27.2018
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It's frustrating that some of us on here could see what needs to happen and yet everyone that is supposed to be "a hockey guy" or from the Wharton Business school cant seem to see it. It was so simple.
Move Laughton and Konecny
Try to be a bottom 5 team this year and next because of the players available at the top of the draft
Don't resign Hathaway and use him as trade bait at TDL
Don't buyout Atkinson
These moves are not super tough and I feel were pretty straightforward. - J35Bacher
According to some on the boars, the Flyers are a bottom 5 team.
No 1c
No 1d
No goalie |
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WhiskeyMan
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Location: PA Joined: 04.27.2018
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i have been a fan for over 30 years. used to watch all the games, follow prospects in juniors, college. last year, i don't think i watched a full game after the first. now, i could almost care less. didn't watch the draft. only came on here after i heard tk was resigned. this team died with E.S. - Peter Richards
Moved to GA from PA, still follow propects and watch the draft. Watch as many games as I can. Starting watching them 40 years ago. |
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According to some on the boars, the Flyers are a bottom 5 team.
No 1c
No 1d
No goalie - WhiskeyMan
would it be shocking if they are a bottom 5 team? |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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According to some on the boars, the Flyers are a bottom 5 team.
No 1c
No 1d
No goalie - WhiskeyMan
They are probably injury or 2 away from being bottom 5 unless one of Ersson or Fedotov significantly outplays expectations.
Right now, I have the following teams rated below them:
Montreal
Columbus
Chicago
San Jose
Calgary
Anaheim
And the following in their neighborhood:
Pittsburgh
Washington
St Louis
Seattle
So they are probably going into the lottery holding a pick in the 7-11 range. |
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They are probably injury or 2 away from being bottom 5 unless one of Ersson or Fedotov significantly outplays expectations.
Right now, I have the following teams rated below them:
Montreal
Columbus
Chicago
San Jose
Calgary
Anaheim
And the following in their neighborhood:
Pittsburgh
Washington
St Louis
Seattle
So they are probably going into the lottery holding a pick in the 7-11 range. - BiggE
flyers in the same neighborhood as the first group. some will surprise some will falter.
who has worse goaltending on paper right now than the flyers?
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BiggE
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flyers in the same neighborhood as the first group. some will surprise some will falter.
who has worse goaltending on paper right now than the flyers? - hello it's me 2050
Possibly Detroit, but that’s about it. |
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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flyers in the same neighborhood as the first group. some will surprise some will falter.
who has worse goaltending on paper right now than the flyers? - hello it's me 2050
Not sure where Flyers are….we just don’t know what Fedotov is. If he poops the bed, this team won’t be very good. I like Ersson but I’m not sure playing him over 40 games is a plan that would end well. |
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It's frustrating that some of us on here could see what needs to happen and yet everyone that is supposed to be "a hockey guy" or from the Wharton Business school cant seem to see it. It was so simple.
Move Laughton and Konecny
Try to be a bottom 5 team this year and next because of the players available at the top of the draft
Don't resign Hathaway and use him as trade bait at TDL
Don't buyout Atkinson
These moves are not super tough and I feel were pretty straightforward. - J35Bacher
I assumed rebuild when they said rebuild. I was wrong.
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