I will go to a few games myself only to see him.

- PT21

I will see him when he plays in Arizona... OH... Never Mind

Woefully unqualified President of hockey ops
Woefully inexperienced GM
Arrogant, childish, out of touch head coach

What could possibly go wrong?

Narrator: pretty much everything

Woefully unqualified President of hockey ops
Woefully inexperienced GM
Arrogant, childish, out of touch head coach

What could possibly go wrong?

Narrator: pretty much everything
- BiggE

Yes...and the draft debacle, in picking Luchenko..didn't inspire my confidence level, in this new Era...or is it Error, Of Orange?

People on this board act like there is nothing to look forward to in the upcoming season.
- WhiskeyMan

What exactly other than Michkov is there? This team is officially in "Buffalo Sabres" territory. I can get my bottom dollar it will be another 8-9 years of missing the playoffs to go along with the previous 4 seasons.

Yes...and the draft debacle, in picking Luchenko..didn't inspire my confidence level, in this new Era...or is it Error, Of Orange?
- CupOnBroadSt.

New era of orange tinted diarrhea

Two questions for you. One, is the anti Flyers sentiment unjustified? Second, why isn't critical conversation towards the team, meaningful hockey related conversation?
- MJL

I came back to answer, but it looks like @ anti-lame did most of it for me.
Of course, Flyers management is not beyond criticism, but reverberating the same message day after day after day does not bring anything productive just misery.
Taking every noise on the internet and turning it into antimanagement rallying cry is hardly meaningful. No one on this board knows exactly what happened to Kolosov or Cutter, but a lot of folks confident that it's management incompetence.
Many a time you ask to operate on facts, but most of the times this board reacts to headlines.
As for meaningfulness of the conversation- just look through this thread and honestly assess how many comments can be construed as meaningful.

I came back to answer, but it looks like @ anti-lame did most of it for me.
Of course, Flyers management is not beyond criticism, but reverberating the same message day after day after day does not bring anything productive just misery.
Taking every noise on the internet and turning it into antimanagement rallying cry is hardly meaningful. No one on this board knows exactly what happened to Kolosov or Cutter, but a lot of folks confident that it's management incompetence.
Many a time you ask to operate on facts, but most of the times this board reacts to headlines.
As for meaningfulness of the conversation- just look through this thread and honestly assess how many comments can be construed as meaningful.
- missingmike

Cutter and Kolosov are barely the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the incompetence of this management team.

Also not a rare occurrence with this team. Players being unhappy with the Flyers is a trend.

Ghost
Provorov
Hayes
Voracek

Wasn’t there something with Mason? Signing Richards, and Carter to mega deals only to move them shortly after.

Let’s not pretend that Ellis, and Patrick were happy. That Frost, and Farabee are happy currently.

The Couturier situation last season.

Krug refuses the trade. Gauthier refuses to play for them. Kolosov goes home.

It’s frankly pathetic.
- flyer_nutter

Carter and Richards were long gone by the time Mason got here. The players you named that were unhappy in Ghost, Provorov, Hayes and Voracek were due to roles getting cut by the coach. This could happen anywhere. In my opinion, Jake is the only player of the 4 you named who deserved benefit of the doubt. All the other guys weren’t delivering the production they should have been. I’m sure Scott Hartnell was happy here but it was very clear Berube wasn’t happy with him. With this said prospects deciding they want out before receiving a full time job and getting the full experience as a Flyers is both strange and a lot different from everyday players.

I came back to answer, but it looks like @ anti-lame did most of it for me.
Of course, Flyers management is not beyond criticism, but reverberating the same message day after day after day does not bring anything productive just misery.
Taking every noise on the internet and turning it into antimanagement rallying cry is hardly meaningful. No one on this board knows exactly what happened to Kolosov or Cutter, but a lot of folks confident that it's management incompetence.
Many a time you ask to operate on facts, but most of the times this board reacts to headlines.
As for meaningfulness of the conversation- just look through this thread and honestly assess how many comments can be construed as meaningful.
- missingmike

It’s a perpetual cycle. It’s like clockwork. Someone will answer with the following:

“Are we not allowed to be critical of the team??”

“Well they keep giving us reasons to complain blah blah blah”

Or how about the tried and true:
“I’ve been a fan for 60 years and given them thousands of dollars and they OWE me!”

None of this addresses the “every day to the same 6 people” part of my response 😂

The moral high ground some of you think you have, you’d think you’re out here solving the world’s problems. Go out and find a real cause 😂 it’s just not that serious

I came back to answer, but it looks like @ anti-lame did most of it for me.
Of course, Flyers management is not beyond criticism, but reverberating the same message day after day after day does not bring anything productive just misery.


- missiIngmike

If someone was reverberating the same message but in a positive light day after day, would you take issue with it? Probably not.

Taking every noise on the internet and turning it into antimanagement rallying cry is hardly meaningful. No one on this board knows exactly what happened to Kolosov or Cutter, but a lot of folks confident that it's management incompetence.


- missiIngmike

There's a lot of things that go on that no one on this board is privy to. Does that prevent someone from being able to form an opinion? There is ample and overwhelming evidence that the management of this team, is incompetent. That is what creates the environment.

Many a time you ask to operate on facts, but most of the times this board reacts to headlines.
As for meaningfulness of the conversation- just look through this thread and honestly assess how many comments can be construed as meaningful.
- missiIngmike

Majority of them are meaningful. I don't think you're using much intelligence here, no offense intended. Also a lack of self awareness. Leading the pack in terms of comments that are not meaningful, are comments such as you're making. There's one thing that is missing from your comments and others that are unhappy with the pessimism and criticism. Comments that attempt to show how those who are criticizing the team, are wrong and why. Maybe if you took that tact instead of the nonsense you're posting. Your comments might approach being meaningful. Are you that unaware and how you're doing exactly what you accuse others of?

If someone was reverberating the same message but in a positive light day after day, would you take issue with it? Probably not.



There's a lot of things that go on that no one on this board is privy to. Does that prevent someone from being able to form an opinion? There is ample and overwhelming evidence that the management of this team, is incompetent. That is what creates the environment.





Majority of them are meaningful. I don't think you're using much intelligence here, no offense intended. Also a lack of self awareness. Leading the pack in terms of comments that are not meaningful, are comments such as you're making. There's one thing that is missing from your comments and others that are unhappy with the pessimism and criticism. Comments that attempt to show how those who are criticizing the team, are wrong and why. Maybe if you took that tact instead of the nonsense you're posting. Your comments might approach being meaningful. Are you that unaware and how you're doing exactly what you accuse others of?
- MJL

daily doom-posting is unhealthy. if you feel it’s necessary to get your rocks off I will be right here “complaining about the complainers” as you put it.

You literally make folks enjoy hockey less. Congrats. You then insult posters for not being as miserable as you. Again, huge win in your column I’m sure.👍

Any discussion that does actually discuss hockey quickly devolves into “Flyers BAD” accompanied by everyone patting each other on the backs.

Yes...and the draft debacle, in picking Luchenko..didn't inspire my confidence level, in this new Era...or is it Error, Of Orange?
- CupOnBroadSt.

Error of Orange. Ha ha ha. That’s pretty clever

Error of Orange. Ha ha ha. That’s pretty clever
- Dkos

🤮

Why even watch? Why post? Why follow their every move? If you’re so smart as to identify exactly what’s wrong with this team - why keep coming back? You keep returning to the well expecting something different. Seems to be a lack of intelligence there.

“But I gave this team the best years of my life…”

😂 (frank)ing save it

If someone was reverberating the same message but in a positive light day after day, would you take issue with it? Probably not.



There's a lot of things that go on that no one on this board is privy to. Does that prevent someone from being able to form an opinion? There is ample and overwhelming evidence that the management of this team, is incompetent. That is what creates the environment.





Majority of them are meaningful. I don't think you're using much intelligence here, no offense intended. Also a lack of self awareness. Leading the pack in terms of comments that are not meaningful, are comments such as you're making. There's one thing that is missing from your comments and others that are unhappy with the pessimism and criticism. Comments that attempt to show how those who are criticizing the team, are wrong and why. Maybe if you took that tact instead of the nonsense you're posting. Your comments might approach being meaningful. Are you that unaware and how you're doing exactly what you accuse others of?
- MJL

Thank you for the lecture. I will choose to agree to disagree and leave it at that

Thank you for the lecture. I will choose to agree to disagree and leave it at that
- missingmike

You're welcome, glad we could work that out. Feel free to tell myself and others why they're wrong about the team. If you change your mind and want to have some actual meaningful conversation. You know where to find me.

You're welcome, glad we could work that out. Feel free to tell myself and others why they're wrong about the team. If you change your mind and want to have some actual meaningful conversation. You know where to find me.
- MJL

Truer words could not have been spoken 😆

Ok let’s talk hockey.

On a scale from 1 to 10, how off was your “player evaluation” of Coots as well as the 8 year contract you insisted he get because “he’s a player you build around and you absolutely sign him to that contract”?

Clown show. I’m quite glad you’re not a GM. You can barely manage the jars of urine in your closet.

You're welcome, glad we could work that out. Feel free to tell myself and others why they're wrong about the team. If you change your mind and want to have some actual meaningful conversation. You know where to find me.
- MJL

I doubt I will ever seek your opinion. I prefer not to communicate to people with condescending attitude

I doubt I will ever seek your opinion. I prefer not to communicate to people with condescending attitude
- missingmike

He lacks the self-awareness to realize he is projecting his insecurities on this website with how he addresses people every day. It’s public record 😂

I doubt I will ever seek your opinion. I prefer not to communicate to people with condescending attitude
- missingmike

I don't see how your comment here is contributing to meaningful conversation. Don't be bitter simply because I set you straight. I suspect that if you could actually debate and make intelligent conversation in rebuttal to those who you claim are too negative. You would. Since you can't, you had to resort to the nonsense that you did. None of this is condescending. It's simply matter of fact and direct.

I don't see how your comment here is contributing to meaningful conversation. Don't be bitter simply because I set you straight. I suspect that if you could actually debate and make an intelligent conversation in rebuttal to those who you claim are too negative. You would. Since you can't, you had to resort to the nonsense that you did. None of this is condescending. It's simply matter of fact and direct.
- MJL

Chalk that one up as another win for MJL! 🥇

so… do you want to address your poor player evaluation regarding Coots or do you just hope everyone forgets about that..?

Surely you can conjure up an intelligent rebuttal, no?

Why even watch? Why post? Why follow their every move? If you’re so smart as to identify exactly what’s wrong with this team - why keep coming back? You keep returning to the well expecting something different. Seems to be a lack of intelligence there.

“But I gave this team the best years of my life…”

😂 (frank)ing save it
- anti-lame

Circle of life. Which means I’m here for life. They may be bad now, I doubt they’ll stay bad forever.

I don't know what happened but in my opinion. This is an NHL team. It's not a training ground in terms of top team executives making the key decisions for the team. These are issues that the GM should not be learning along the way. It's something that the average intelligent fan knows. That a young player, coming to NA needs the proper support. If they need to learn this, maybe they're not the right people for the job. The list of what the Flyers need to learn a long the way, grows by the day.
- MJL

Well said

I really think kolosov went home because he doesn't want to play in the AHL.
Wasn't there an article talking about how the russian/Belarus players don't want to play in the AHL?
I have no doubt that he got homesick being stuck in a hotel room by himself for that length of time. It would piss me off if I was him. It's a legitimate complaint fpr him but I feel it's his easy way out clause.
Once fedotov arrived the writing was on the wall for kolosov, and he clearly doesn't want to put in the time to ewrn an NHL call up.

Besides, he's already been paid almost a million dollars to play for his hpmetown dynamo Minsk while burning a year of his ELC. He's kinda set himself up for success at the flyers expense

It's a bad look for DB to not have thought about all of this before bringing him over, imo

I really think kolosov went home because he doesn't want to play in the AHL.
Wasn't there an article talking about how the russian/Belarus players don't want to play in the AHL?
I have no doubt that he got homesick being stuck in a hotel room by himself for that length of time. It would piss me off if I was him. It's a legitimate complaint fpr him but I feel it's his easy way out clause.
Once fedotov arrived the writing was on the wall for kolosov, and he clearly doesn't want to put in the time to ewrn an NHL call up.

Besides, he's already been paid almost a million dollars to play for his hpmetown dynamo Minsk while burning a year of his ELC. He's kinda set himself up for success at the flyers expense

It's a bad look for DB to not have thought about all of this before bringing him over, imo
- Bob Habib

GMDB and Jones look really bad… again. Briere said he remembers the adjustment when he came to the NHL from Canada and spoke no English. Russia is a far cry from Canada, both politically, socially and of course it’s literally on the other side of the world. Shame on Briere for not being a good enough leader for anticipating that. These guys are really not ready for prime time.