Not at all. Its sound reasoning. The only reason people are complaining about the Luchanko pick was most pre-draft rankings had him being picked somewhere between 19 and 23, while Buium was projected to be picked between 3-7. The fact is Buium fell because 12 NHL teams preferred other players to Buium. Why is that? The Flyers passed on Buium and according to you they are stupid, but the teams picking between 3 and 7 are not stupid, is that right? Also, the Flyers did not reach for Luchanko at 13. No person with any real intelligence would call picking a player a few spots sooner than projected in the 1st round a reach.
- jd250

Jd, you are beyond clueless. The reason they gave for passing on Buium, is stupid.

If Buium had elite talent and skill he would have picked in the top 10, period. Not every player picked by teams in the top 10 had elite talent and skill.
- jd250

False. Does David Pasternak, Nikita Kucherov and Brayden Point have elite skill?
- MJL

He did not say 'only players picked in top 10 have elite talent/skill.' Which is what you erroneously believed he said in your counterexamples.🤣🤣

Why are you so down on Andrae? The kid had a really strong year at LHV and has shown he can play in bog international games and has strong leadership skills. Give the kid a break. You may see him this year playing in the NHL. I have watched HUnter for two years a Northeastern, I know the type of player he is and the leadership he also brings. I believe he has the size, speed and tenacity to be a very good NHL defenseman, and will flourish under Shaw's coaching.
- jd250

Where have I heard this before?

He did not say 'only players picked in top 10 have elite talent/skill.' Which is what you erroneously believed he said in your counterexamples.🤣🤣
- PT21

As usual, you're incorrect. He is implying that since Buium was not picked in the top 10 and 12 teams passed on him. He doesn't have elite skill. The examples given illustrate how where a player is drafted does not and can't determine that. Try again.

I can't speak for everyone, but....

Sports in general has a "circle of life", it's just the part of competition. I believe everyone here is OK with being bad then being good then being bad. That cycle makes being good that much better.

One of my favorite movie quotes from Vanilla Sky. My buddy Jason Lee said:

"Just remember, the sweet is never as sweet without the sour, and I know the sour."

The problem is, some people have yet to truly accept that the Flyers have not been on the big boy coaster with the giant Ups and Downs. They have been riding that kiddie coaster for many decades, sure there are ups and down, but they are still damn close to the ground.

A good way to describe the Flyers....they are very close to becoming the NY Jets. VERY CLOSE.
- Glak18

Thanks for that visual.

Why are you so down on Andrae? The kid had a really strong year at LHV
- jd250

Did he? How many Phantoms games did you watch? He's 22 years old and has played 4 NHL games. That is not the type of prospect any sane team considers when picking in the first round.

As usual, you're incorrect. He is implying that since Buium was not picked in the top 10 and 12 teams passed on him. He doesn't have elite skill. The examples given illustrate how where a player is drafted does not and can't determine that. Try again.
- MJL

Obviously, 12 teams didn't think Buium was a 1D, otherwise he would never have got past the 5th pick. Clearly players with elite talent have been drafted all over the draft. The best chances of drafting an elite player is in the top 10 of the draft however.

Jd, you are beyond clueless. The reason they gave for passing on Buium, is stupid.
- MJL

The fact of the matter is, if a team wishes to win a Cup they need size on the backend. Buium does not have that size. Clearly Briere and his team project Buium to be no better than York, JD or even Andrae. We'll see if they are right.

As usual, you're incorrect. He is implying that since Buium was not picked in the top 10 and 12 teams passed on him. He doesn't have elite skill. The examples given illustrate how where a player is drafted does not and can't determine that. Try again.
- MJL

Here is what he could have meant:

Drafting in top 10 is a function of elite talent + skill + work ethic + hockeysense. In some years, there are enough players high in the last 2 to push players posessing just elite talent + skill to be pushed out of top 10. This year was not one of them.

The Flyers are sutpid because they mentioned Emil Andrae as a reason for not taking Buium, and because they told the world they would take a center for need before the draft.
- Feanor

I think they didn’t take Buium because he had the same agent as Quitter and we likely didn’t want to go down that road again.

Did he? How many Phantoms games did you watch? He's 22 years old and has played 4 NHL games. That is not the type of prospect any sane team considers when picking in the first round.
- Feanor

About 20-25 games last season. From what I saw and everything I read, the Flyers were happy with is development. He lacks size and that hurts him in board battles, this is an area he will have to improve if he is to make to the NHL permanently, and he showed good development in that area at LHV. He is only going to get physically stronger this season.

I think they didn’t take Buium because he had the same agent as Quitter and we likely didn’t want to go down that road again.
- Jkrgoflyers

And he was a collegiate player. I definitely think these were factors also.

Here is what he could have meant:

Drafting in top 10 is a function of elite talent + skill + work ethic + hockeysense. In some years, there are enough players high in the last 2 to push players posessing just elite talent + skill to be pushed out of top 10. This year was not one of them.
- PT21

good points.

Why are you so down on Andrae? The kid had a really strong year at LHV and has shown he can play in bog international games and has strong leadership skills. Give the kid a break. You may see him this year playing in the NHL. I have watched HUnter for two years a Northeastern, I know the type of player he is and the leadership he also brings. I believe he has the size, speed and tenacity to be a very good NHL defenseman, and will flourish under Shaw's coaching.
- jd250

he is nothing but a 3rd pair guy if he evenb pans out. never been a fan of his in terms of him making an nhl impact.

really strong year? according to whom? so good he has no path to make the flyers top 6.

please fn stop with hunter hype train. he was a 6th rd pick no no biggie, but I can't wait to see how he never ever becomes a top 6 nhl dman. yeah shaw gonna turn him into another RR. Leadership, culture, he hits, block shots, not a lotta skill. all flyers traits that lead to success.

who was the last flyers dman they drafted outside the 1st rd that has made a career of playing in the nhl? Ghost a dozen years ago?

The fact of the matter is, if a team wishes to win a Cup they need size on the backend. Buium does not have that size. Clearly Briere and his team project Buium to be no better than York, JD or even Andrae. We'll see if they are right.
- jd250

any thoughts on their 2nd rd pick in 2024 draft?

About 20-25 games last season. From what I saw and everything I read, the Flyers were happy with is development. He lacks size and that hurts him in board battles, this is an area he will have to improve if he is to make to the NHL permanently, and he showed good development in that area at LHV. He is only going to get physically stronger this season.
- jd250

says who? that is a false statement.

he is nothing but a 3rd pair guy if he evenb pans out. never been a fan of his in terms of him making an nhl impact.

really strong year? according to whom? so good he has no path to make the flyers top 6.

please fn stop with hunter hype train. he was a 6th rd pick no no biggie, but I can't wait to see how he never ever becomes a top 6 nhl dman. yeah shaw gonna turn him into another RR. Leadership, culture, he hits, block shots, not a lotta skill. all flyers traits that lead to success.

who was the last flyers dman they drafted outside the 1st rd that has made a career of playing in the nhl? Ghost a dozen years ago?
- hello it's me 2050

What is there, like a 2% chance a 6th round pick plays in the NHL. If Hunter makes it, that is a good pick and a good win for the Flyers development staff.

any thoughts on their 2nd rd pick in 2024 draft?
- hello it's me 2050

Who Gill? I don't know much about him.

Obviously, 12 teams didn't think Buium was a 1D, otherwise he would never have got past the 5th pick. Clearly players with elite talent have been drafted all over the draft. The best chances of drafting an elite player is in the top 10 of the draft however.
- jd250

Nonsense. I understand you are arguing just to argue, but you can't possibly believe this.

Nothing to see here IMO. Kolosov will be guarenteed by Briere to be the starter for the Phantom's this season, and he will be here for training camp. At the end of the day, money will be Kolosov's alarm clock and he will arrive on time. I agree with Bill, there are those that just want to stoke the fire anyway they can to get fans to turn against everything the Flyers do or don't do. It's very sad.
- jd250

We now know he will never step foot again in the USA

Obviously, 12 teams didn't think Buium was a 1D, otherwise he would never have got past the 5th pick. Clearly players with elite talent have been drafted all over the draft. The best chances of drafting an elite player is in the top 10 of the draft however.
- jd250

Since you finally admit that players with elite talent are drafted all over the draft, now you can dismiss your argument of 12 teams passing on Buium as a counter argument to those who think the Flyers made a mistake.

The fact of the matter is, if a team wishes to win a Cup they need size on the backend. Buium does not have that size. Clearly Briere and his team project Buium to be no better than York, JD or even Andrae. We'll see if they are right.
- jd250

So an NHL team can't win the Cup with a player the size of say, Cale Makar?

Your latter comment points out the absurdity and stupidity of their thinking.

Here is what he could have meant:

Drafting in top 10 is a function of elite talent + skill + work ethic + hockeysense. In some years, there are enough players high in the last 2 to push players posessing just elite talent + skill to be pushed out of top 10. This year was not one of them.
- PT21

I deal in what he actually said and what he has reinforced numerous times.

About 20-25 games last season. From what I saw and everything I read, the Flyers were happy with is development. He lacks size and that hurts him in board battles, this is an area he will have to improve if he is to make to the NHL permanently, and he showed good development in that area at LHV. He is only going to get physically stronger this season.
- jd250

Sounds like the kind of player you have that gives you a reason to pass on a potential 1D player in the draft.

What is there, like a 2% chance a 6th round pick plays in the NHL. If Hunter makes it, that is a good pick and a good win for the Flyers development staff.
- jd250

It would be but it doesn't add up to a gem.