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roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 29 @ 8:06 PM ET
Any of you watch the Phly Sports podcast? That chick Kelly sure is clueless
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 30 @ 6:40 AM ET
Welp there goes plan A

Draisatl extended.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 30 @ 7:13 AM ET
Necas seriously signed for 2 years $6.5mil? The 2 years makes sense. But only $6.5mil per? Why?
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 30 @ 7:26 AM ET
Necas seriously signed for 2 years $6.5mil? The 2 years makes sense. But only $6.5mil per? Why?
- mickel25


Makes him easier to trade maybe. As far as I can tell there are no clauses on the contract.

Or he is betting on himself, wanted a 2 year deal so his next contract will be bigger.


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 7:33 AM ET
Necas seriously signed for 2 years $6.5mil? The 2 years makes sense. But only $6.5mil per? Why?
- mickel25


6.5M is above the comparables for him for a 2 year deal
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 7:34 AM ET
Makes him easier to trade maybe. As far as I can tell there are no clauses on the contract.

Or he is betting on himself, wanted a 2 year deal so his next contract will be bigger.

- WhiskeyMan


A player is not eligible for movement or trade clauses until he reaches the point of UFA eligibility in terms of age or accrued seasons played.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 30 @ 7:43 AM ET
https://x.com/jclarknbcs/...&t=lNMhaDxvo_uA4wyV4T1bqg

Doesn’t look like he’s ever thrown a baseball before, but he still gets it over the plate. 👍

- Dkos

doesn't look like the flyers put him in a position to succeed by throwing out that first pitch.....
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 30 @ 7:43 AM ET
Any of you watch the Phly Sports podcast? That chick Kelly sure is clueless
- roenick97

2 peas in a pod
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 30 @ 7:44 AM ET
6.5M is above the comparables for him for a 2 year deal
- MJL

who are the comparables?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 30 @ 7:45 AM ET
Welp there goes plan A

Draisatl extended.

- Just5

the sick thing is they probably thought they had a chance and he would sign here.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 30 @ 8:26 AM ET
6.5M is above the comparables for him for a 2 year deal
- MJL


Is TK a comparable?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 8:32 AM ET
Is TK a comparable?
- mickel25



https://hockeycomparables...rtin-necas-next-contract/
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 30 @ 8:55 AM ET
https://hockeycomparables.com/2024/06/07/projecting-martin-necas-next-contract/
- MJL


Looks like an appropriate AAV according to this. Thanks for the data.

Also shows the difference between the Flyers and the Canes. Tippett gets locked in long term while Necas gets 2 years. In 2 years the Canes will have flexibility and the Flyers will still be locked into Tippett.

Not saying either player is a better player. Just pointing out the difference in philosophy between the two clubs and how they address contracts for similar players.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 8:58 AM ET
Looks like an appropriate AAV according to this. Thanks for the data.

Also shows the difference between the Flyers and the Canes. Tippett gets locked in long term while Necas gets 2 years. In 2 years the Canes will have flexibility and the Flyers will still be locked into Tippett.

Not saying either player is a better player. Just pointing out the difference in philosophy between the two clubs and how they address contracts for similar players.

- mickel25


His deal is 1M higher than the comparable for a 2 year deal. Necas will be a UFA in two years and if he produces, his AAV will then be much higher than Tippett's. They also can lose him for nothing
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 30 @ 8:58 AM ET
Looks like an appropriate AAV according to this. Thanks for the data.

Also shows the difference between the Flyers and the Canes. Tippett gets locked in long term while Necas gets 2 years. In 2 years the Canes will have flexibility and the Flyers will still be locked into Tippett.

Not saying either player is a better player. Just pointing out the difference in philosophy between the two clubs and how they address contracts for similar players.

- mickel25

he stole the data from the canes blog.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 30 @ 8:58 AM ET
His deal is 1M higher than the comparable for a 2 year deal. Necas will be a UFA in two years and if he produces, his AAV will then be much higher than Tippett's. They also can lose him for nothing
- MJL

they can also trade him.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 30 @ 9:04 AM ET
2 peas in a podcast
- hello it's me 2050

Oh, not a big fan of Bill Matz either, eh?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:18 AM ET
His deal is 1M higher than the comparable for a 2 year deal. Necas will be a UFA in two years and if he produces, his AAV will then be much higher than Tippett's. They also can lose him for nothing
- MJL


All of those things are true. The Canes also have the flexibility to make decisions in two years regardless of the players performance. The Flyers have far less flexibility when it comes to Tippett. Both players play wing and are not elite.

Would you rather have flexibility with a non-elite winger or would you rather be committed to a non-elite winger for 6 years?

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 30 @ 9:21 AM ET
Welp there goes plan A

Draisatl extended.

- Just5

Lol
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jul 30 @ 9:23 AM ET
Maybe if it happens enough times, it will get through the Flyers thick skulls that elite talent doesn't reach FA and trading up into the top of the draft never happens either.

But they are dumb so it may take another dozen examples for them to get it.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 30 @ 9:24 AM ET
Looks like an appropriate AAV according to this. Thanks for the data.

Also shows the difference between the Flyers and the Canes. Tippett gets locked in long term while Necas gets 2 years. In 2 years the Canes will have flexibility and the Flyers will still be locked into Tippett.

Not saying either player is a better player. Just pointing out the difference in philosophy between the two clubs and how they address contracts for similar players.

- mickel25

Don’t go tipping your cap to the canes for this, this could cost them big time in two years if they want to keep him and they could lose him. This is more the player and team kicking the can down the road
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 30 @ 9:24 AM ET
All of those things are true. The Canes also have the flexibility to make decisions in two years regardless of the players performance. The Flyers have far less flexibility when it comes to Tippett. Both players play wing and are not elite.

Would you rather have flexibility with a non-elite winger or would you rather be committed to a non-elite winger for 6 years?

- mickel25

I hate the Tippett deal, as I do the Sanheim, TK and Couturier deals. 8 year deals should be reserved for truly elite players or borderline elite players who are still in their mid 20s. None of the above qualify.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 9:25 AM ET
All of those things are true. The Canes also have the flexibility to make decisions in two years regardless of the players performance. The Flyers have far less flexibility when it comes to Tippett. Both players play wing and are not elite.

Would you rather have flexibility with a non-elite winger or would you rather be committed to a non-elite winger for 6 years?

- mickel25


If a team likes and wants to keep the player long term. The Flyers situation with Tippett is the better situation. There are risks to both sides.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 30 @ 9:28 AM ET
Welp there goes plan A

Draisatl extended.

- Just5


Nothing reported on TSN or sportsnet
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 30 @ 9:29 AM ET
His deal is 1M higher than the comparable for a 2 year deal. Necas will be a UFA in two years and if he produces, his AAV will then be much higher than Tippett's. They also can lose him for nothing
- MJL


Gives him a hell of an incentive to produce up to the value of his contract now, which the Canes arguably need more than his long term services.
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