Laine feels like more of the same for the Leafs.

The idea of adding him doesn't make my big toe shoot up in my boot.

I wouldn't give up a 1st for him, less yet Robertston and a 1st and more.
- GalacticStone

1st!

That deal is junk. (I might consider Robertson for Laine at 50% and chuck him on the 3rd line. Might.)

Butt (frank) Laine.

We need a 3C and a 3LW and preferably ones that don't suck most of the time. A couple of proven playoff beasts! Yummy!

1st!

That deal is junk. (I might consider Robertson for Laine at 50% and chuck him on the 3rd line. Might.)

Butt (frank) Laine.

We need a 3C and a 3LW and preferably ones that don't suck most of the time. A couple of proven playoff beasts! Yummy!
- underhill14

the poon jenner will come with him

If Laine has dealt with himself (Leafs would obviously do their jobs looking into that) - it would be great to have him in Top 6.

I wouldn’t give Jarnkrok (can play up/down line on either wing) but would look to include something else in palace (prospect or pick). I like Kampf and he’s a good defensive centre, but I feel that if the Leafs got Kuraly back he is not as good as Kampf but Homberg/Dewar/Kuraly wouod be a good a good enough to selection for 3C/4C (technically Domi as well at 3C if you need option).

I just think Leafs will play with better defensive structure through all lines and have a better dcore to complement that. Losing Kampf would be dealt with fine I think.


Top 6:
34, Willy, JT, Marner, Laine, Domi

Bottom 6/7:
Knies, Jarnkrok, Kuraly, McMann, Dewar, Reaves

1st!

That deal is junk. (I might consider Robertson for Laine at 50% and chuck him on the 3rd line. Might.)

Butt (frank) Laine.

We need a 3C and a 3LW and preferably ones that don't suck most of the time. A couple of proven playoff beasts! Yummy!
- underhill14

I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Less than a heartbeat.

Robertson is an undersized winger with moderate skill and a good shot. Our 1st is likely to produce a guy who is still in the bottom-6 or bottom-2 D pairings. Jarnkrok and Kampf offer little.

If you had Laine with retention - and frankly that deal isn't one I'd take if I were Columbus - a guy with 54 goals and 117 points in his last 129 games, you win that trade 100 times out of 100.

I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Less than a heartbeat.

Robertson is an undersized winger with moderate skill and a good shot. Our 1st is likely to produce a guy who is still in the bottom-6 or bottom-2 D pairings. Jarnkrok and Kampf offer little.

If you had Laine with retention - and frankly that deal isn't one I'd take if I were Columbus - a guy with 54 goals and 117 points in his last 129 games, you win that trade 100 times out of 100.
- Monkeypunk

just think about the analogy Bill Zito said about trades.
Do you want to go skying or not??!!! I would like to go.

just think about the analogy Bill Zito said about trades.
Do you want to go skying or not??!!! I would like to go.
- dmnted

I get what you mean, but specific to the players involved - Laine plays with more jam than Robertson, Kampf. None of these players are SUVs/Trucks

Another smelly deal by an incompetent GM. A decent clutch hitter for the Mariners' 29th best prospect

- winsix

hes been terrible, thankfully he has a bit of a hot streak lately to get anything for him.

the Kikuchi deal sounds decent for the Jays.

In the proposed deal the Leafs would send Robertson, Calle Jarnkrok, David Kampf and their 2026 1st round pick in exchange for Laine and a 2026 2nd round pick. Armenti also reports that the Blue Jackets would have to retain $4.4 million (50%) of Laine's contract to make the deal happen.
- mr.sir

Garbage.
Hard pass on laine

Laine feels like more of the same for the Leafs.

The idea of adding him doesn't make my big toe shoot up in my boot.

I wouldn't give up a 1st for him, less yet Robertston and a 1st and more.
- GalacticStone

Ya its a foolish rumour that will never happen, Laine is not at all the type of player Tre wants.

hes been terrible, thankfully he has a bit of a hot streak lately to get anything for him.

the Kikuchi deal sounds decent for the Jays.
- senstroll

Atkins has to get quality for Kikuchi....apparently alot of teams are interested.
Atkins needs a win here.
Edit: Didnt know the kouchie was already traded.

Jays have done....decent to replenish the prospect pool. no blue chip or anything, you are not going to get a teams top prospect unless you trade a vlad or Bo or someone with a lot of control.

i dont get the deal for Kikuchi, Astros may get 10 or 12 starts out of him. its great on the Jays side...but odd. i guess the market was hot for kik.

Atkins has to get quality for Kikuchi....apparently alot of teams are interested.
Atkins needs a win here.
Edit: Didnt know the kouchie was already traded.
- Fakepartofme

I am nowhere on baseball prospect knowledge (like with hockey I have a pretty solid grasp of which prospects are doing well in general, but in baseball everyone single one of them is a name - like I had no idea who Paul Skenes was until he was about 6-0!), but the Athletic had this to say:

Just 22, Bloss is a former third-rounder who could evolve into a middle-of-the-rotation arm. Loperfido had a terrific spring training and made his big league debut earlier this year and the 6-foot-3 slugger has already exceeded many projections. Wagner is the son of Astros star Billy Wagner and could see big league time this year. This seems, on paper, to be a nice coup by Ross Atkins for a pending free agent.


As sens notes it's not really grabbing a blue chip prospect, but there's potential in what they received. Loperfido gives me Teoscar vibes in terms of his minor league numbers and where he is in his career and where his potential is. That alone - hitting on one of these 3 - would make this a fantastic deal for the Jays.

nice deal for Faber from the Wild with an 8.5M cap hit for the next 8 year extension.

Garbage.
Hard pass on laine
- Fakepartofme

I would take Laine in a second. That package is good enough to get laine either.

I would take Laine in a second. That package is good enough to get laine either.
- bryant

Soft player, seems to give up on his team.
Not the type of player the leafs need.

Trade them all. All can be replaced by a UFA. but id keep Green if not a really strong offer

Jon Morosi
@jonmorosi
The Blue Jays, who exceeded expectations with the Yusei Kikuchi trade, are listening on multiple players on deadline day.

RHP Chad Green

RHP Trevor Richards, who has struggled in July

INF Isiah Kiner-Falefa, on an injury rehab assignment with Buffalo

Soft player, seems to give up on his team.
Not the type of player the leafs need.
- Fakepartofme

When I look at Laine, I think as a corollary that successful hockey teams are often built on core talent drafted from a condensed timeframe. Last year's Panthers had picks 1, 2 & 4 from the 2014 draft. Add Pick 2 from 2013 and pick 6 from 2015 and you have their broader core right there.

The Leafs are built on the #1 pick from 2009, the #1 pick from 2016, the #4 pick from 2015, the #8 pick from 2014 and the #5 pick from 2012.

If you can add a #2 pick from a draft that centres around the time period where your core is - who's principal problem was a personal issue that he is dealing with - you should do it in my opinion. They would have Picks 1, 2 and 8 from 2016 on the "larger" roster - not that Alex Nylander should count, but it's funny that he was in that draft with Matthews. Hell trade Marner for Keller and you have picks 1, 2, 7 and 8 from 2016!

But ignoring that Marner quip, a guy like Laine with retention would immediately make this team's offense more lethal because you would have 2 of the most dangerous shooters in the league on one team. Laine is also 6'5 and over 200 - he was motivated and dangerous on Winnipeg. I believe that guy is still in there.

I'm betting ultimately that your principal consideration - and I agree with this - is that we already have too many players who care about scoring with the puck and not enough about getting the puck and not enough about preventing the other team from scoring with the puck. I agree that Laine doesn't change that dynamic.

Trade them all. All can be replaced by a UFA. but id keep Green if not a really strong offer
- senstroll

Jays are cleaning house with all these trades.

who will be next?

Wow! Canada into the gold medal Rugby 7 womens final. Beat #3 ranked France yesterday and #2 ranked Australia today.

Soft player, seems to give up on his team.
Not the type of player the leafs need.
- Fakepartofme

If you look at his numbers while in Columbus (past four years, and I'm adding in his 1 game with the Jets), he scores at a rate of 31 goals and 66 points over 82 games.

If he did that on the Leafs last year, he'd be 3rd on the team in goals (behind only Matthews and Nylander), and 4th in points (behind only Matthews, Nylander and Marner).

More importantly, he'd be 1st in goals for left wingers - 10 more than Bertuzzi, 16 more than Knies, and he'd be 1st in points for left wingers - 23 more than Bertuzzi, 31 more than Knies.

I sincerely doubt he is coming here, but let's not get all silly and say he wouldn't be useful to the Leafs.

And yeah, I'm saying Domi was a centre last year. He had 4 more points than Bertuzzi, if you want to go down that road.

Wow! Canada into the gold medal Rugby 7 womens final. Beat #3 ranked France yesterday and #2 ranked Australia today.
- Woderwick

Dammit! I forgot that was on.

The game against France yesterday was off the hizzay. Referee was openly cheering for France - their first try was obvious obstruction, and with about two minutes left in the game, there was an obvious penalty where a French player helicoptered a Canadian out of bounds.

And we still won!!!!!

Go Canada!

Jays are cleaning house with all these trades.

who will be next?
- dmnted

well they are not cleaning house. but moving expiring contracts...which they should

Dammit! I forgot that was on.

The game against France yesterday was off the hizzay. Referee was openly cheering for France - their first try was obvious obstruction, and with about two minutes left in the game, there was an obvious penalty where a French player helicoptered a Canadian out of bounds.

And we still won!!!!!

Go Canada!
- Atomic Wedgie

Canada was down 12-0 at one point.

When I look at Laine, I think as a corollary that successful hockey teams are often built on core talent drafted from a condensed timeframe. Last year's Panthers had picks 1, 2 & 4 from the 2014 draft. Add Pick 2 from 2013 and pick 6 from 2015 and you have their broader core right there.

The Leafs are built on the #1 pick from 2009, the #1 pick from 2016, the #4 pick from 2015, the #8 pick from 2014 and the #5 pick from 2012.

If you can add a #2 pick from a draft that centres around the time period where your core is - who's principal problem was a personal issue that he is dealing with - you should do it in my opinion. They would have Picks 1, 2 and 8 from 2016 on the "larger" roster - not that Alex Nylander should count, but it's funny that he was in that draft with Matthews. Hell trade Marner for Keller and you have picks 1, 2, 7 and 8 from 2016!

But ignoring that Marner quip, a guy like Laine with retention would immediately make this team's offense more lethal because you would have 2 of the most dangerous shooters in the league on one team. Laine is also 6'5 and over 200 - he was motivated and dangerous on Winnipeg. I believe that guy is still in there.

I'm betting ultimately that your principal consideration - and I agree with this - is that we already have too many players who care about scoring with the puck and not enough about getting the puck and not enough about preventing the other team from scoring with the puck. I agree that Laine doesn't change that dynamic.
- Monkeypunk

I agree with everything here except the bolded. Leafs are a great regular scoring team but tighten up on the playoffs. Tre said it in his closing presser that they have to figure out a way to put more pucks in the net come playoffs. Having Laine as another option for scoring would be huge. Leafs seem to play solid team defense come playoffs.

If you look at his numbers while in Columbus (past four years, and I'm adding in his 1 game with the Jets), he scores at a rate of 31 goals and 66 points over 82 games.

If he did that on the Leafs last year, he'd be 3rd on the team in goals (behind only Matthews and Nylander), and 4th in points (behind only Matthews, Nylander and Marner).

More importantly, he'd be 1st in goals for left wingers - 10 more than Bertuzzi, 16 more than Knies, and he'd be 1st in points for left wingers - 23 more than Bertuzzi, 31 more than Knies.

I sincerely doubt he is coming here, but let's not get all silly and say he wouldn't be useful to the Leafs.

And yeah, I'm saying Domi was a centre last year. He had 4 more points than Bertuzzi, if you want to go down that road.
- Atomic Wedgie

Im not saying he wouldnt be usefull on the leafs.....Im sure he would be a fine regular season add. Just not the type of someone the leafs need for the playoffs imo.