They were PPG players but in crunch time, they didnt produce First8 games like I said like 25 points between them. Then Like 5 points the last 8 games, most of those points were on the PP too I think. 5v5 was dismal. Cant win like that, which they have proven the last 4 years together. The first 2 lines cant go cold at the same time.
- Brukie

You’ve said all of this already

Late to the news on Lindgren. Very surprised Drury got him to agree on a one year deal. Have to wonder if they’ll let him walk (next summer) now, as it seems like Drury is thinking like most you guys that extending him long term isn’t the best idea. It’ll be tough to see him go if that’s the case, he’s been a favorite of mine

Late to the news on Lindgren. Very surprised Drury got him to agree on a one year deal. Have to wonder if they’ll let him walk (next summer) now, as it seems like Drury is thinking like most you guys that extending him long term isn’t the best idea. It’ll be tough to see him go if that’s the case, he’s been a favorite of mine
- Slimtj100

Or the remote possibility that he will dealt at the trading deadline.

63 points doesnt scream first line center production especially when most of those points were on the PP if I'm correct.
- Brukie

Believe when I say that my optimism doesn't blind me to the fact that we need more when it counts from Mika (and Bread), but my God man, what is it that you expect? 63 points in 74 games is 0.85 ppg. Playoffs. That ranks him 94th in the history of the league!!! 19th for active skaters.
You are talking like it's a paltry, shameful rate of production. We are not starting from scratch here.

Or the remote possibility that he will dealt at the trading deadline.
- TommyGTrain

There is the possibility, but do you really think that will happen? I don’t see it happening unless they trade him for a better player (that doesn’t make much more) and if that’s the case, why would the other team make that trade?

There is the possibility, but do you really think that will happen? I don’t see it happening unless they trade him for a better player (that doesn’t make much more) and if that’s the case, why would the other team make that trade?
- banger94

He said remote possibility

68 days till Rangers hockey

68 days till Rangers hockey
- NYR11

One jagr

Can we cut it off? The top of your head i mean. The part of the head that enables people to type

Good god we get it, Zib sucks. Panarin sucks. They aren’t clutch. You say it evvvvvvvvverrrrrrrryyyyyyyyydaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy over an over an over. Can you bring anything else to the blog? Like anything other sucking toms thimble dyck or bad mouthing our best players. You got anything else in the top of your head?
- Slimtj100

Sounds like someone was chased by a dog yesterday!!

Im posting my opinion on why the Rangers failed to win the Cup, I stated facts off the top of my head because I used my phone to post. This is a Rangers blog and I posted about the Rangers.

So you are saying you can only bad mouth the support players like Goodrow, KK or our 8 million dollar player in Trouba, but not the Guys who are paid to produce when the games mean something??? Gotcha

Again, I dont see how Im sucking Toms cock is related to when I say Mika and Panarin didnt produce when needed to. You are your Brothers insistence on using homophobic terms with Tom and myself is getting boring, Im beginning to wonder if your future wife knows of your fantasy of seeing men together.

Your best posts are of impossible trades, be a good armchair GM and figure out how we can get Mcdavid for KK and a 1st and second rounder.

Believe when I say that my optimism doesn't blind me to the fact that we need more when it counts from Mika (and Bread), but my God man, what is it that you expect? 63 points in 74 games is 0.85 ppg. Playoffs. That ranks him 94th in the history of the league!!! 19th for active skaters.
You are talking like it's a paltry, shameful rate of production. We are not starting from scratch here.
- Tonybere

In 5 years with the Rangers, he played 58 playoff games, 9 goals 19 assists for 28 points at even strength. 8 goals 13 assists for 21 PP points.

Doesnt scream 5v5 production, which is something you want from your first line center.

I wish hockey reference broke down the points by playoff round, Im sure he didnt produce in the later rounds as he didnt produce in this past years 2nd and 3rd rounds.

In 5 years with the Rangers, he played 58 playoff games, 9 goals 19 assists for 28 points at even strength. 8 goals 13 assists for 21 PP points.

Doesnt scream 5v5 production, which is something you want from your first line center.

I wish hockey reference broke down the points by playoff round, Im sure he didnt produce in the later rounds as he didnt produce in this past years 2nd and 3rd rounds.
- Brukie

So 43% of points on the PP. How does that compare to other PPG players in the playoffs? I would imagine most have a healthy dose of PPP, but I'm not sure how the average compares to 43%

Mika had 7 points in 4 games vs Wash, 7 points in 6 games vs Car, and 2 points in 6 games vs Florida.

He was outplayed by Barkov, I don't think anyone is arguing that, but I think him not being a playoff player is a little bit overblown, even if there is some merit to what you're saying

So 43% of points on the PP. How does that compare to other PPG players in the playoffs? I would imagine most have a healthy dose of PPP, but I'm not sure how the average compares to 43%

Mika had 7 points in 4 games vs Wash, 7 points in 6 games vs Car, and 2 points in 6 games vs Florida.

He was outplayed by Barkov, I don't think anyone is arguing that, but I think him not being a playoff player is a little bit overblown, even if there is some merit to what you're saying
- SkjeiStadium

OK so I looked it up and I was actually surprised by the results.

There were 13 players this year that had a PPG or higher. Panarin was 14th in PPG with 0.94 so for the sake of conversation I'm going to include him in this.

Of the 14 players, only 6 of them made it to the conference finals and played over 15 games. Those players were McDavid, Bouchard, Trocheck, Draisaitl, Zibanejad and Panarin.

Those 6 players scored an average of 43.6% of their points on the PP. Here is the breakdown:

Draisaitl: 48.3%
Trocheck: 45.0%
Bouchard: 43.8%
Zibanejad: 43.8%
McDavid: 40.5%
Panarin: 40%

If you extend this to all players that scored a PPG, not just ones that made the conference final, players like Makar, MacKinnon and Nichushkin had over 50% PP point share, while there were some other players like Aho and Boeser who had 8% and 17% playoff points.

Just to round things out, Barkov was Florida's highest scorer and he scored 0.92 PPG and only 32% of his points came on the PP. Tkachuck had similar numbers.

The point, I guess, is that the guys that are scoring at a PPG clip deep into the playoffs are for the most part doing it at the same PP vs 5v5 clip that our top players are. You can argue it's the games/rounds they score in or other aspects of the game beyond point production, but the criticism that our top guys are too PP reliant is wrong according to this year's stats.

OK so I looked it up and I was actually surprised by the results.

There were 13 players this year that had a PPG or higher. Panarin was 14th in PPG with 0.94 so for the sake of conversation I'm going to include him in this.

Of the 14 players, only 6 of them made it to the conference finals and played over 15 games. Those players were McDavid, Bouchard, Trocheck, Draisaitl, Zibanejad and Panarin.

Those 6 players scored an average of 43.6% of their points on the PP. Here is the breakdown:

Draisaitl: 48.3%
Trocheck: 45.0%
Bouchard: 43.8%
Zibanejad: 43.8%
McDavid: 40.5%
Panarin: 40%

If you extend this to all players that scored a PPG, not just ones that made the conference final, players like Makar, MacKinnon and Nichushkin had over 50% PP point share, while there were some other players like Aho and Boeser who had 8% and 17% playoff points.

Just to round things out, Barkov was Florida's highest scorer and he scored 0.92 PPG and only 32% of his points came on the PP. Tkachuck had similar numbers.

The point, I guess, is that the guys that are scoring at a PPG clip deep into the playoffs are for the most part doing it at the same PP vs 5v5 clip that our top players are. You can argue it's the games/rounds they score in or other aspects of the game beyond point production, but the criticism that our top guys are too PP reliant is wrong according to this year's stats.
- SkjeiStadium

Nicely done man. Great post

OK so I looked it up and I was actually surprised by the results.

There were 13 players this year that had a PPG or higher. Panarin was 14th in PPG with 0.94 so for the sake of conversation I'm going to include him in this.

Of the 14 players, only 6 of them made it to the conference finals and played over 15 games. Those players were McDavid, Bouchard, Trocheck, Draisaitl, Zibanejad and Panarin.

Those 6 players scored an average of 43.6% of their points on the PP. Here is the breakdown:

Draisaitl: 48.3%
Trocheck: 45.0%
Bouchard: 43.8%
Zibanejad: 43.8%
McDavid: 40.5%
Panarin: 40%

If you extend this to all players that scored a PPG, not just ones that made the conference final, players like Makar, MacKinnon and Nichushkin had over 50% PP point share, while there were some other players like Aho and Boeser who had 8% and 17% playoff points.

Just to round things out, Barkov was Florida's highest scorer and he scored 0.92 PPG and only 32% of his points came on the PP. Tkachuck had similar numbers.

The point, I guess, is that the guys that are scoring at a PPG clip deep into the playoffs are for the most part doing it at the same PP vs 5v5 clip that our top players are. You can argue it's the games/rounds they score in or other aspects of the game beyond point production, but the criticism that our top guys are too PP reliant is wrong according to this year's stats.
- SkjeiStadium

Great post!

OK so I looked it up and I was actually surprised by the results.

There were 13 players this year that had a PPG or higher. Panarin was 14th in PPG with 0.94 so for the sake of conversation I'm going to include him in this.

Of the 14 players, only 6 of them made it to the conference finals and played over 15 games. Those players were McDavid, Bouchard, Trocheck, Draisaitl, Zibanejad and Panarin.

Those 6 players scored an average of 43.6% of their points on the PP. Here is the breakdown:

Draisaitl: 48.3%
Trocheck: 45.0%
Bouchard: 43.8%
Zibanejad: 43.8%
McDavid: 40.5%
Panarin: 40%

If you extend this to all players that scored a PPG, not just ones that made the conference final, players like Makar, MacKinnon and Nichushkin had over 50% PP point share, while there were some other players like Aho and Boeser who had 8% and 17% playoff points.

Just to round things out, Barkov was Florida's highest scorer and he scored 0.92 PPG and only 32% of his points came on the PP. Tkachuck had similar numbers.

The point, I guess, is that the guys that are scoring at a PPG clip deep into the playoffs are for the most part doing it at the same PP vs 5v5 clip that our top players are. You can argue it's the games/rounds they score in or other aspects of the game beyond point production, but the criticism that our top guys are too PP reliant is wrong according to this year's stats.
- SkjeiStadium

Well done, sir, well done

OK so I looked it up and I was actually surprised by the results.

There were 13 players this year that had a PPG or higher. Panarin was 14th in PPG with 0.94 so for the sake of conversation I'm going to include him in this.

Of the 14 players, only 6 of them made it to the conference finals and played over 15 games. Those players were McDavid, Bouchard, Trocheck, Draisaitl, Zibanejad and Panarin.

Those 6 players scored an average of 43.6% of their points on the PP. Here is the breakdown:

Draisaitl: 48.3%
Trocheck: 45.0%
Bouchard: 43.8%
Zibanejad: 43.8%
McDavid: 40.5%
Panarin: 40%

If you extend this to all players that scored a PPG, not just ones that made the conference final, players like Makar, MacKinnon and Nichushkin had over 50% PP point share, while there were some other players like Aho and Boeser who had 8% and 17% playoff points.

Just to round things out, Barkov was Florida's highest scorer and he scored 0.92 PPG and only 32% of his points came on the PP. Tkachuck had similar numbers.

The point, I guess, is that the guys that are scoring at a PPG clip deep into the playoffs are for the most part doing it at the same PP vs 5v5 clip that our top players are. You can argue it's the games/rounds they score in or other aspects of the game beyond point production, but the criticism that our top guys are too PP reliant is wrong according to this year's stats.
- SkjeiStadium

Very nice. The issue was our PP didn't score in the ECF

OK so I looked it up and I was actually surprised by the results.

There were 13 players this year that had a PPG or higher. Panarin was 14th in PPG with 0.94 so for the sake of conversation I'm going to include him in this.

Of the 14 players, only 6 of them made it to the conference finals and played over 15 games. Those players were McDavid, Bouchard, Trocheck, Draisaitl, Zibanejad and Panarin.

Those 6 players scored an average of 43.6% of their points on the PP. Here is the breakdown:

Draisaitl: 48.3%
Trocheck: 45.0%
Bouchard: 43.8%
Zibanejad: 43.8%
McDavid: 40.5%
Panarin: 40%

If you extend this to all players that scored a PPG, not just ones that made the conference final, players like Makar, MacKinnon and Nichushkin had over 50% PP point share, while there were some other players like Aho and Boeser who had 8% and 17% playoff points.



- SkjeiStadium

Just to round things out, Barkov was Florida's highest scorer and he scored 0.92 PPG and only 32% of his points came on the PP. Tkachuck had similar numbers.

The point, I guess, is that the guys that are scoring at a PPG clip deep into the playoffs are for the most part doing it at the same PP vs 5v5 clip that our top players are. You can argue it's the games/rounds they score in or other aspects of the game beyond point production, but the criticism that our top guys are too PP reliant is wrong according to this year's stats.

I highlighted your quote of Barkov and Tkachuck, it seems they produced more 5v5, which IMO is what you need to win. You cant rely on your PP to win games cause once your PP goes cold, then you will lose, which is what happened to the Rangers. In a 7 games series and your PP goes doesnt produce, winning is much much harder.

Regular season the Rangers PP was a force and they won, playoffs same thing until the PP stopped producing vs Fla. They didnt produce 5v5 and they lost even with the best goalie in the world.

Look at it this way, Goodrow, who most people wanted gone and is now gone, scored 6 goals in the playoffs, Panarin and Mika scored a total of 8 goals Combined. I dont think that is acceptable of your top players. In 22-23 They combined for 1 goal in 7 games, in 21-22 Mika produced consistently thru all 3 rounds while Panarin only had 2 goals total in the second and third rounds. 3 years is more of a pattern than an off year.

If these guys production was more consistent, we win the Cup, no doubt we had the best team during the regular season. They need to carry it over to the Post season.

I highlighted your quote of Barkov and Tkachuck, it seems they produced more 5v5, which IMO is what you need to win. You cant rely on your PP to win games cause once your PP goes cold, then you will lose, which is what happened to the Rangers. In a 7 games series and your PP goes doesnt produce, winning is much much harder.

Regular season the Rangers PP was a force and they won, playoffs same thing until the PP stopped producing vs Fla. They didnt produce 5v5 and they lost even with the best goalie in the world.

Look at it this way, Goodrow, who most people wanted gone and is now gone, scored 6 goals in the playoffs, Panarin and Mika scored a total of 8 goals Combined. I dont think that is acceptable of your top players. In 22-23 They combined for 1 goal in 7 games, in 21-22 Mika produced consistently thru all 3 rounds while Panarin only had 2 goals total in the second and third rounds. 3 years is more of a pattern than an off year.

If these guys production was more consistent, we win the Cup, no doubt we had the best team during the regular season. They need to carry it over to the Post season.
- Brukie

Not trying to argue or start a fight or troll (believe it or not), But like... no poop. And you've said this a bunch already, so what is your suggestion here? Or are you just not convinced we can win with this core? A lot of posts, time, words, etc used to not say all that much

Can we cut it off? The top of your head i mean. The part of the head that enables people to type

Good god we get it, Zib sucks. Panarin sucks. They aren’t clutch. You say it evvvvvvvvverrrrrrrryyyyyyyyydaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy over an over an over. Can you bring anything else to the blog? Like anything other sucking toms thimble dyck or bad mouthing our best players. You got anything else in the top of your head?
- Slimtj100

Sounds like someone was chased by a dog yesterday!!

Im posting my opinion on why the Rangers failed to win the Cup, I stated facts off the top of my head because I used my phone to post. This is a Rangers blog and I posted about the Rangers.

So you are saying you can only bad mouth the support players like Goodrow, KK or our 8 million dollar player in Trouba, but not the Guys who are paid to produce when the games mean something??? Gotcha

Again, I dont see how Im sucking Toms cock is related to when I say Mika and Panarin didnt produce when needed to. You are your Brothers insistence on using homophobic terms with Tom and myself is getting boring, Im beginning to wonder if your future wife knows of your fantasy of seeing men together.

Your best posts are of impossible trades, be a good armchair GM and figure out how we can get Mcdavid for KK and a 1st and second rounder.
- Brukie

BIG TIME TELL IF YOU ASK ME!

https://x.com/br_openice/...&t=uyemCTfXPLjxebCnYBfx6Q

Sounds like someone was chased by a dog yesterday!!

Im posting my opinion on why the Rangers failed to win the Cup, I stated facts off the top of my head because I used my phone to post. This is a Rangers blog and I posted about the Rangers.

So you are saying you can only bad mouth the support players like Goodrow, KK or our 8 million dollar player in Trouba, but not the Guys who are paid to produce when the games mean something??? Gotcha

Again, I dont see how Im sucking Toms cock is related to when I say Mika and Panarin didnt produce when needed to. You are your Brothers insistence on using homophobic terms with Tom and myself is getting boring, Im beginning to wonder if your future wife knows of your fantasy of seeing men together.

Your best posts are of impossible trades, be a good armchair GM and figure out how we can get Mcdavid for KK and a 1st and second rounder.
- Brukie

You and Tom’s “relationship” here is actually gross

Not trying to argue or start a fight or troll (believe it or not), But like... no poop. And you've said this a bunch already, so what is your suggestion here? Or are you just not convinced we can win with this core? A lot of posts, time, words, etc used to not say all that much
- picklerick

Brukie uses the same post over and over and just mixes up the words from time to time

We’re so lucky to have him

Very nice. The issue was our PP didn't score in the ECF
- picklerick

That just proves my point that the team relies on the PP to score. This team doesn't produce enough 5v5.

That just proves my point that the team relies on the PP to score. This team doesn't produce enough 5v5.
- Brukie

632nd time you’ve told us this