He wore down because he always wears down. Talk to me about TK carrying a team to game 7 of the SCF before you make that ridiculous comparison.
- MBFlyerfan

lol the defense of this team is always good for a laugh.

I think they have a good base in defense with York, Bonk, and Drysdale. They have enough wingers on the team and in the system that can be slotted properly now with Michkov. Center is pretty bleak but hopefully Luchanko fills one of those.

#1 center and another top 2 defenseman are the glaring holes.
- psuhockey

goalie is a glaring hole.

I think TK is going to be very productive over the next 5 years, as long as the talent around him improves. The key will be for Briere to get some good centers on this team soon.
- jd250

lets say he is in those 5 years. where is it getting the flyers? what is the likely end result.


where is he going to get good centers soon? I am all ears.

Did TK wear down because he was not recovered from his injury?

Was he worn down because he was the only flyer that could drive the puck consistently?

Will MM take some of that pressure off TK?

All players wear down, even mcjesus wore down in game 7. It was obvious that he was a bit gassed
- WhiskeyMan

You're showing a repeated pattern of not thinking very clearly.

He wore down because he always wears down. Talk to me about TK carrying a team to game 7 of the SCF before you make that ridiculous comparison.
- MBFlyerfan

All you can do is laugh.

You’d know all about moist. Every time I post. 😁
- roenick97

never a dry day goes by!

That a BIG depends.
- MBFlyerfan

Finally a dry day!

He wore down because he always wears down. Talk to me about TK carrying a team to game 7 of the SCF before you make that ridiculous comparison.
- MBFlyerfan

And if he doesn’t wear down, and they make the playoffs at some point, let’s hope he performs better than he has in prior playoffs. 1 goal in 22 playoff games is a bit putrid.

Or, are the playoff stats bad bc he is worn down by the start of the playoffs? 😂

All you can do is laugh.
- MJL

I hate to disturb what has no doubt been an utterly scintillating day of hockey insights, but I have 3 words I must say here:

SIMONE (frank)ING BILES!

Now, my apologies, and do please carry on.

I hate to disturb what has no doubt been an utterly scintillating day of hockey insights, but I have 3 words I must say here:

SIMONE (frank)ING BILES!

Now, my apologies, and do please carry on.
- PT21

Go USA. She is amazing.

I hear you but it is a little different managing paid professionals (who are adults) and children. If you tell an adult to "Do what I say, not as I do" you will lose credibility instantly when you "do" what Torts did last season. A child does not know any better.
- mickel25

No it’s not. I have bosses sleeping with regular workers for promotions at my job, which is clearly against the rules and everyone knows about it but what can we do? It’s naive to believe the world is fair and everyone is treated equally.

I hate to disturb what has no doubt been an utterly scintillating day of hockey insights, but I have 3 words I must say here:

SIMONE (frank)ING BILES!

Now, my apologies, and do please carry on.
- PT21

Unreal! Go USA!

goalie is a glaring hole.
- hello it's me 2050

Fair but goalies are a dart throw in the draft and even year to year in the NHL. Build a good team and try to get lucky with an insane goalie playoff run.

You're showing a repeated pattern of not thinking very clearly.
- MJL

No, you are just over thinking it because you are smarter than God or at least make yourself out to be.

The point was that players get worn down if they are over used. If a team.leans on a player too much they get worn down.

Doesn't everyone here female dog like a little girl that torts used coots too much!

Secondary point was that if MM is as good as we are told he is, he will take some attention off TK.

If he wanted $10M AAV. This deal is much more palatable, though at first I really didn't like it and still don't unless Briere clears space another way.
- jd250

It’s not palatable. You are slipping right back into the 90%. Everyone knew 10 mil was just a gimmick. Absurd number that was completely laughable.

And as many said it was a trick like you use on a toddler to come here or on a puppy to train them this whole 10 mil asking price now look he got less than 9 so it’s a good or palatable deal.

No it’s not. It’s a horrible contract.

It’s not palatable. You are slipping right back into the 90%. Everyone knew 10 mil was just a gimmick. Absurd number that was completely laughable.

And as many said it was a trick like you use on a toddler to come here or on a puppy to train them this whole 10 mil asking price now look he got less than 9 so it’s a good or palatable deal.

No it’s not. It’s a horrible contract.
- Stayin alive

Oh god. I’m glad you did it, because I was sick of having to explain that to those shocked by the sticker price

No, you are just over thinking it because you are smarter than God or at least make yourself out to be.

The point was that players get worn down if they are over used. If a team.leans on a player too much they get worn down.

Doesn't everyone here female dog like a little girl that torts used coots too much!

Secondary point was that if MM is as good as we are told he is, he will take some attention off TK.
- WhiskeyMan

Again, you're not thinking clearly. McDavid was not worn down. All teams heavily lean on their top players. The issue with Couturier is that he was coming off of a major injury and missed almost two years of hockey. That condition was not present with Konecny.

Again, you're not thinking clearly. McDavid was not worn down. All teams heavily lean on their top players. The issue with Couturier is that he was coming off of a major injury and missed almost two years of hockey. That condition was not present with Konecny.
- MJL

Yes, McDavid was worn down. It was game 7 of the SCF and he had single handedly carried them there for the most part. He played 25 playoff games. He looked worn down. The problem was none of his teammates stepped up.

The point is that TK was wearing down by March. When he had 25 games left in the season.

The two examples aren't in the same universe.

It provides great humor. I await the spin attempt.
- MJL

Doing what you do best I see, trying everything you can to berate me. Well, this response isn't for you since you are as predictable as a doorknob and dumb as a stick, thus no matter what I post will not be understood. But for those on this site that I know read what I post with an open mind, especially those that have messaged me privately expressing their support, this one is for you.

I have posted from the very beginning that I love TK and want the Flyers to keep him. I posted numerous times that TK plays Flyers hockey, should have been made captain over Couts and be the face of the franchise. I have also posted, to your mochery, I would even want TK over a player like Pastrnak.

I also posted that I hoped Briere would be aggressive in this draft and trade into the top 10, maybe even into the top 5 and get a true 1D and 1C and move this rebuild forward. That of course didn't happen, though by all reports he tried.

When the Flyers came out of this year's draft with 6 picks in the first two rounds in next year's draft, a draft that Jones stated was a very important draft and one the Flyers needed to get right, I presumed the Flyers plan was to build through this draft. But I also posted that picking 16th, 23rd and 27th is not going to move the needle on this rebuild, that the Flyers needed to take a serious step back this year by trading veteran players to get into the 10, preferably the top 5, to get potential elite talent to move this rebuild forward. The news also broke that TK's camp was 1. asking for $10M AAV and 2, would dig in all the way to the end. Putting these two points together, I concluded that the Flyers should trade TK, Laughton and Farabee to gain more draft capital and young players and set themselves up to get elite talent in the 2025 draft.

Then Hathaway gets extended, a year early, until he is 35 years old. Then TK gets his 8 year contract at a much better $8.75M AAV, and now the plan has been revealed a bit more. Now I believe Briere's plan is not to use all the 2025 picks to draft players, but to trade them along with other players for younger, up and coming players I presume and to use the cap space coming off the books to sign a free agent or two. Thus Briere is trying to do what Vegas has done, trade and sign their way to top contention. I don't agree with this plan because putting Vegas aside, in my experience this only gets you so far, maybe a couple of rounds in the playoffs, but it eventually falls apart. It could work, but if it were me I would build the way Colorado, Tampa and Florida did it, get elite talent in the draft to build a foundation, then make smart trades and free agent signings to augment the foundation. However this takes time, and I don't believe Briere and Jones want to wait that long. Thus I am happy TK is here, at least I have him to root for moving forward, because I honestly don't have faith in the plan I think Breire and Jones will execute will work well enough to end the cup drought.

So as you read this, you will see several of my posts word for word inserted so you can see there is no spin here. I'm done now.

Yes, McDavid was worn down. It was game 7 of the SCF and he had single handedly carried them there for the most part. He played 25 playoff games. He looked worn down. The problem was none of his teammates stepped up.

The point is that TK was wearing down by March. When he had 25 games left in the season.

The two examples aren't in the same universe.
- MBFlyerfan

TK got hurt, I think it was an oblique injury which are very painful, late in the season and returned after he missed a few games, but never got back to the player he was before the injury. I don't believe it was as simple as TK got worn down with 25 games left in the season.

lets say he is in those 5 years. where is it getting the flyers? what is the likely end result.


where is he going to get good centers soon? I am all ears.
- hello it's me 2050

As I posted, I think Briere's plan, based on his comments, is to trade and sign his way to these players. I wish him luck.

TK got hurt, I think it was an oblique injury which are very painful, late in the season and returned after he missed a few games, but never got back to the player he was before the injury. I don't believe it was as simple as TK got worn down with 25 games left in the season.
- jd250

where do you think the flyers will end up with the great tk leading the way? what is the most realistic scenario to you?

As I posted, I think Briere's plan, based on his comments, is to trade and sign his way to these players. I wish him luck.
- jd250

It’s a plan that is doomed to fail. Vegas was blessed with an expansion draft that set them up beyond their wildest expectations. The Flyers don’t have that advantage.

If trading picks and signing free agents is their plan, it won’t end well. Yeah, they’ll make the playoffs a few times, even win a round here and there, but they won’t even win the East, let alone a Cup, and in 6-7 years they’ll be right back to where they were a year or 2 ago.

It’s a plan that is doomed to fail. Vegas was blessed with an expansion draft that set them up beyond their wildest expectations. The Flyers don’t have that advantage.

If trading picks and signing free agents is their plan, it won’t end well. Yeah, they’ll make the playoffs a few times, even win a round here and there, but they won’t even win the East, let alone a Cup, and in 6-7 years they’ll be right back to where they were a year or 2 ago.
- BiggE

this has been my experience also which is why I don't support the plan if this is what they plan on doing. And what else can they do? This Flyers team will be good enough to have a shot at the playoffs, meaning right now I project their first 1st round pick will be somewhere between 14-18. That is the definition of purgatory IMO.