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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 1 @ 9:32 AM ET
Did anyone watch the behind the scenes draft video?
- Feanor


Link?

I would like to see that.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 1 @ 9:32 AM ET
Did the agent advise him to do that? At the end of the day the agent works for the player. The player made a decision.

1. Danny f'd up.
2. CG took it personally.
3. The Flyers took it personally.
4. The Flyers launched a smear campaign that ended with the kid getting death threats.

While they were both childish the adults in the room should've acted like adults.

- Flyers_01


1 million % AGREE
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Aug 1 @ 9:35 AM ET
It's only five minutes long, so I'll watch it now. I thought it was longer.

https://youtu.be/_-A8EnBXw80?si=q6tayBdXEAlddI3O

Homer in da house.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 1 @ 9:36 AM ET
Who traded up into the top 11 picks?
- mickel25

Sj traded before draft. Minnesota traded up at draft
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 1 @ 9:37 AM ET
Buium is a weird case for me. If he is such a lock elite talent why did he make it to 12? I have not watched a second of him playing so I cannot offer an educated scouting report.

Why were teams hesitant to take him? I get that drafting is not an exact science.

- mickel25


Everybody's always looking for some smoking gun when a prospect slides but all it ever takes is for each team to like another prospect just a little bit more. Compound that with a draft that was pretty wide open after the top pick.

There's really nothing wrong w/ Buium.

People (and the Flyers) are saying size but he's not even all that small. People are saying he's not a great defender but neither are Yakemchuk, Parekh or Richardinson. Again he could have been #2 BPA for a lot of the teams in the 5-11 range for all we know.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Aug 1 @ 9:37 AM ET
It's really tiresome hearing the 'Rangers rebuild' argument. This is always the gist of Myrtetus' (Dwayne from Swedesboro) argument as well, 'just look to the Rangers!!!!' Panarin and Fox only wanted to play for the Rangers. Not to mention they had a future perennial Vezina candidate rising in their ranks already.

Who are the Flyers versions of Panarin, Fox and Shesterkin? Is there a Zibanejad already on the roster primed for a 40 goal breakout? Or a Kreider who's gonna go 52, 36 and 39 in 3 consecutive years?

- TobyFlenderson

They were also gifted a #1 and #2 pick in consecutive drafts where their record was considerably better than the position they picked in, AND one of those drafts had a close to generational talent. They are also willing to "hurt" players feeling for the good of the club....
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 1 @ 9:38 AM ET
Sj traded before draft. Minnesota traded up at draft
- Stayin alive


I obviously recalled Minnesota moving up. I forgot about SJ.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 1 @ 9:39 AM ET
Agreed but that Russian is elite and a center but he comes with a 3year khl lock, exactly like michkov was.

So he will probably drop

- SlNlSTER


The entire league has just seen that Michkov came over after one KHL season.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 1 @ 9:39 AM ET
It's only five minutes long, so I'll watch it now. I thought it was longer.

https://youtu.be/_-A8EnBXw80?si=q6tayBdXEAlddI3O

Homer in da house.

- Feanor


Is Briere being interviewed in the back of a dry cleaners?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 1 @ 9:39 AM ET
They were also gifted a #1 and #2 pick in consecutive drafts where their record was considerably better than the position they picked in, AND one of those drafts had a close to generational talent. They are also willing to "hurt" players feeling for the good of the club....
- mr4tno


This is where the Flyers fall short. They absolutely fall in love with their players. Despite what they say to the fans.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 1 @ 10:12 AM ET
I obviously recalled Minnesota moving up. I forgot about SJ.
- mickel25

The major point is this….

This years draft at the top was d heavy…. (Next year is d weak)

There was a consensus 5-6 dmen that could go top 10. With a few that play style of makar Hughes. High uptempo offensive game.


2 teams even traded up into 12. Both those teams that traded up took…… dmen.

2 teams traded out of top 12….
1) buffalo who has Dahlin powers byram and other on d corp
2) philly who has hahahaahahaha York jd Andrea


1 stupid ass team traded out of top 12 with one of the dmen sitting there that plays game with tempo compared to makar/hughes. Philly.


For a player most ranked 20 or later in draft who is a center in a d heavy draft


Because as Philly states we already have small dmen and want to get bigger as a team then draft a player smaller than the player with the maybe elite skill in the position of strength of draft. Who’s bigger and quite possible better than the players Philly gave excuse for.


Only incompetent people do these type things. It would be like you or I walking into an operating room and giving instruction how to perform surgery.
These fools have no idea how to build or construct any semblance of a competent roster.

They are throwing darts blindfolded. Status quo. Make as much money as possible. Pr team to the masses of idiots that slurp slurp. They now have tk and mm to market for at least the next 3 years. Enjoy
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 1 @ 10:15 AM ET
This is where the Flyers fall short. They absolutely fall in love with their players. Despite what they say to the fans.
- mickel25

They don’t fall in love with the players. They fall in love with what they can market to a stupid fan base. No one believe risto is good. But they love him because they can market big hits. Or nd with fights or tk with scrappy. Etc etc etc.

The flyers way.
“Be a (frank)ing flyer”


Slurp slurp

Let’s go flyers

Wash rinse repeat
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Aug 1 @ 11:30 AM ET
Did the agent advise him to do that? At the end of the day the agent works for the player. The player made a decision.

1. Danny f'd up.
2. CG took it personally.
3. The Flyers took it personally.
4. The Flyers launched a smear campaign that ended with the kid getting death threats.

While they were both childish the adults in the room should've acted like adults.

- Flyers_01


Being honest is not smear campaign, the media ask and they Flyers responded.

Imagine how mad Flyers fan would be if dB just said we like Jamie more
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 1 @ 12:33 PM ET
Being honest is not smear campaign, the media ask and they Flyers responded.

Imagine how mad Flyers fan would be if dB just said we like Jamie more

- SlNlSTER

Lmmfao. Yeah it wasn’t a campaign.


Strategically rolled everyone out one after the other with different reporters and platforms all spewing the same aggressive narrative. All stating “he doesn’t want to be a flyer we don’t want him”

Holy (frank) dude no offense but if you can’t spot the propaganda you are obtuse
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