Sounds about right.

Even some of those GMDB cheerleader optimists were shaken by the TK extension.


- Tomahawk

Passing on Buium is the bigger issue or getting caught flat footed while San Jose moved ahead of them to get the defenseman that they likely wanted.

Not sure I believe this….but heard at a golf Tourney last week that Flyers are in on Zegras. Some of the guys saying it know guys that would know….so another way of saying it is I know a guy who knows a guy who might know a guy.
I’m not sold on the player per say, but found it interesting.
- landros 2

I believe this. I am not sold on Zegras as a player, and certainly not Zegras paired with Torts as the player he is now. However if Zegras embraces what Torts teaches, and thats a big IF, he has the skill to be a great player. I just don't believe he will embrace what Torts teaches.

how do thing work in michigan?
- hello it's me 2050

A nice friendly handshake but apparently you give guys a nice custom tug.

From what was said….the price is not that high.
- landros 2

I'm not trading Bonk, especially given the Flyers do not have any other real potential top pairing defensive prospect in their system, unless the Flyers are getting a true top pairing Dman back.

Hextall had a far superior prospect base for awhile
- Just5

appreciate the response Bill.

If there was more offense to unlock. Cant see Torts being that guy to unlock it or Rocky. Who belives this? Danny or Torts?

Also if the PP struggles badly in the first 6 weeks. You see them making a PP coaching change?
- hello it's me 2050

TK has thrived under Torts. Foerster has thrived so far under Torts. Even Scott Laughton has had his two best offensive years under Torts. The PP is a mess, but I think the problem was more on the players last year, once the break-ins were fixed.

A nice friendly handshake but apparently you give guys a nice custom tug.
- roenick97

you don't condone that type of affection?

TK has thrived under Torts. Foerster has thrived so far under Torts. Even Scott Laughton has had his two best offensive years under Torts. The PP is a mess, but I think the problem was more on the players last year, once the break-ins were fixed.
- jd250

if that is your definition of thriving no wonder the flyers suck.

The coach of the PP sucks. How much more evidence do you need? He shares the blame with the head coach and players.

- jd250

You either have a short memory or you only just became a fan during the Fletcher era...

you don't condone that type of affection?
- hello it's me 2050

Not at a first meeting

Not at a first meeting
- roenick97

Definitely need a finesse period before you get handsy.

Definitely need a finesse period before you get handsy.
- mickel25

Some people just don’t know how to work their way up.

You either have a short memory or you only just became a fan during the Fletcher era...
- Tomahawk

It's neither. He has a lack of knowledge.

- jd250

Do you recall the standard you applied when looking at Flahr's drafting?

I'm not trading Bonk, especially given the Flyers do not have any other real potential top pairing defensive prospect in their system, unless the Flyers are getting a true top pairing Dman back.
- jd250

Bonks not a top pair quality defenseman. He is a second pair or decent partner for a better defenseman. He can be replaced this draft and not really ruin the timelines for anything with Sanheim and Drysdale already top 4 right sided options. Center on the other hand is a dumpster fire through out the entire system.

Bonks not a top pair quality defenseman. He is a second pair or decent partner for a better defenseman. He can be replaced this draft and not really ruin the timelines for anything with Sanheim and Drysdale already top 4 right sided options. Center on the other hand is a dumpster fire through out the entire system.
- psuhockey

I don’t think it would be wise for the Flyers or the fans to devalue what little talent they have in the system. Especially seeing how Oliver Bonk is a pretty big piece to the London Knights’ success. I’m not saying I disagree with your assessment of Bonk but I’m also not saying you draft a guy and if we choose to throw him away after one year, we can go out and get another guy. Especially not in favor of Sanheim and Drydale. Drysdale need to prove he can stay healthy and if we weren’t stuck with Sanheim, I’m sure many here would be willing to ship him with all the other vets we’ve been dreaming of getting rid of. In fact, your view of Bonk, might be the same as how Sanheim was viewed at that age.

Myers, Hagg and Morin had good size, moved well, had a big shots from the point and didn't mind the physical game either.

Without good hockey sense it's hard to be an everyday NHL defenseman.
- Tomahawk

Wait. Are you finally admitting Myers doesn’t have good hockey sense?

Wait. Are you finally admitting Myers doesn’t have good hockey sense?
- Peter Richards

😆 😂

I don’t think it would be wise for the Flyers or the fans to devalue what little talent they have in the system. Especially seeing how Oliver Bonk is a pretty big piece to the London Knights’ success. I’m not saying I disagree with your assessment of Bonk but I’m also not saying you draft a guy and if we choose to throw him away after one year, we can go out and get another guy. Especially not in favor of Sanheim and Drydale. Drysdale need to prove he can stay healthy and if we weren’t stuck with Sanheim, I’m sure many here would be willing to ship him with all the other vets we’ve been dreaming of getting rid of. In fact, your view of Bonk, might be the same as how Sanheim was viewed at that age.
- roenick97

kind of it, everyone wants to draft and develop, well, you need to let them develop. Bonk could be 2nd pair, could be first, could be a bust, but I think we all want DB to hit on a pick, not just 1st round picks but a pick a like B Point in Tampa. What is Bonk, lets find out.

kind of it, everyone wants to draft and develop, well, you need to let them develop. Bonk could be 2nd pair, could be first, could be a bust, but I think we all want DB to hit on a pick, not just 1st round picks but a pick a like B Point in Tampa. What is Bonk, lets find out.
- wcorvette

they can't even draft/develop a 4th line player and you want a Point. Might as well shoot for the stars I suppose.

You either have a short memory or you only just became a fan during the Fletcher era...
- Tomahawk

The statement was "Hextall had a far superior prospect base for awhile". He did? Where are those prospects now? I would say that during Hextall's tenure as GM, the Flyers farm system was highly rated by the so-called experts, but in the end it produced very little beyond TK, Hart and Provorov. And I might add, Hart might be in jail by this time next year, and Provorov never blossomed into the player Hextall drafted him to be. So in the end, Hextall was a poor GM and this was proven in Pittsburgh where he didn't last 2 seasons.

Do you recall the standard you applied when looking at Flahr's drafting?
- MJL

We'll see how Flahr's drafts turn out. We know how Hextall's drafts turned out.

Bonks not a top pair quality defenseman. He is a second pair or decent partner for a better defenseman. He can be replaced this draft and not really ruin the timelines for anything with Sanheim and Drysdale already top 4 right sided options. Center on the other hand is a dumpster fire through out the entire system.
- psuhockey

You don't know what Bonk will be in a few years. If you want to believe he is not a top pairing defenseman so be it. But from what I have seen, I think the potential is there. He has the size and skills to be a top pairing RHS defenseman in the NHL and if there was a redraft of the 2024 Bonk would have been taken in the top 10 IMO.

if that is your definition of thriving no wonder the flyers suck.

The coach of the PP sucks. How much more evidence do you need? He shares the blame with the head coach and players.
- hello it's me 2050

Of course the coach shares the blame for the worst PP in the league. All I am saying is I saw aspects of the Flyers PP improve as the season went along, things like zone entries, puck retrieval and puck possession. What killed the Flyers the most IMO on the PP was 1. poor o-zone faceoffs lead to lost possession and zone clears which in some cases costs the PP 30-40 seconds, and 2. Indecisiveness of the players once they had control to make plays; i.e. 2 passes and shoot the puck. There was no chemistry on the PP last year, or the year prior IMO, and when players are not on the same page that more than anything else sinks a PP.

You don't know what Bonk will be in a few years. If you want to believe he is not a top pairing defenseman so be it. But from what I have seen, I think the potential is there. He has the size and skills to be a top pairing RHS defenseman in the NHL and if there was a redraft of the 2024 Bonk would have been taken in the top 10 IMO.
- jd250

haven't seen any projection from anyone or anywhere that has him as a potential top pair dman.