I think the biggest reason you don't see it done often is the draft compensation if the offer goes through.
- rpeters01

I agree

I was speaking of the Blues if they built their pipe line properly no need to offer sheet the Oiler players.

It's why i really like all of the draft picks KD has accumulated, so much harder to actually do the later you pick in the draft.
- BetweenTheDots

Well sure, but unless you basically start over like the Hawks have, it is relatively hard to do. The Blues were Cup champs not too many years ago, and were trying to get back there. That inevitably leads to draft pick attrition and thinning the pipeline.

I'm really interested to see what happens with the new CBA when it comes up in 2026. Hopefully they are able to negotiate some sort of flexibility with contracts or restructuring so that teams can keep some more of their own talent together. Otherwise, there will be these continual swings of teams being really good then crashing.

I get it but now you become a target, isn't there an unwritten rule among GMs about this sort of thing?
- BetweenTheDots

I've always been curious, if they are unwritten rules, how did the first person know they existed as rules?

Yes it can get expensive in terms of giving up 1st rounders plus for expensive signings, but in the Blues case, they potentially can get two former 1st round picks with a lot of upside for 2025 2nd and 3rd round picks. Those picks, IF they hit, likely won't make a contribution until 2029 or 2030.
- boilermaker100

Also, the odds of those two picks becoming a Broberg or a Holloway are not very good, there’s a lot of upside to these two players. Holloway is the type of player that will add value during a playoff run in the near future, he can skate, has good size, and will hit, I’d love him on the Hawks. The Blues defense is not nearly what it used to be due to age and injuries, Broberg should fit right in on their team. It will be interesting to see how the Oilers respond, do they match both, one, or none?

Also, the odds of those two picks becoming a Broberg or a Holloway are not very good, there’s a lot of upside to these two players. Holloway is the type of player that will add value during a playoff run in the near future, he can skate, has good size, and will hit, I’d love him on the Hawks. The Blues defense is not nearly what it used to be due to age and injuries, Broberg should fit right in on their team. It will be interesting to see how the Oilers respond, do they match both, one, or none?
- Angotti

I think you've mentioned him once or twice.

This morning Eklund feature at the top of the hickeybuzz site, posed the question where the promising goaltender, Askorov, might become his new address

Actually the limited response in the comments to teams Ask (ing) about Askarov is quite telling

When another team will pony up a good enough offer, he is headlights from Nashville. That much appears obvious. Nashville has signed Sara's long term and the new veteran backup brought in is Wedgewood. Moreover, Askarov, after two very solid years for Milwaukk AHL, is not only ready for the NHL, but is saying he does not want to return to Milwaukee and the AHL level

In those limited responses aforementioned, you will read about some possible trade destinations and why those particular teams do not work as to complete a trade

The obvious landing spot WITHOUT my further research or analysis to lend credence, dies appear to be the LA Kings. As an aside, it sure would be ning help for a very long timece to see the left glove Askarov play for Chicago

However, I strongly feel at least a major trading piece, the 2025 #1, should not be traded under any circumstance. Hopefully a top line forward à our first round '25 selection would provide Befaed with scori

This morning Eklund feature at the top of the hickeybuzz site, posed the question where the promising goaltender, Askorov, might become his new address

Actually the limited response in the comments to teams Ask (ing) about Askarov is quite telling

When another team will pony up a good enough offer, he is headlights from Nashville. That much appears obvious. Nashville has signed Sara's long term and the new veteran backup brought in is Wedgewood. Moreover, Askarov, after two very solid years for Milwaukk AHL, is not only ready for the NHL, but is saying he does not want to return to Milwaukee and the AHL level

In those limited responses aforementioned, you will read about some possible trade destinations and why those particular teams do not work as to complete a trade

The obvious landing spot WITHOUT my further research or analysis to lend credence, dies appear to be the LA Kings. As an aside, it sure would be ning help for a very long timece to see the left glove Askarov play for Chicago

However, I strongly feel at least a major trading piece, the 2025 #1, should not be traded under any circumstance. Hopefully a top line forward à our first round '25 selection would provide Befaed with scori
- jhawk59

I could be wrong, but I don’t see the Hawks going after Askarov.

1. It’s unlikely that Nashville trades Askarov to a team that can haunt them for the next 10+ years.

2. Is Askarov with the high price? Is he that much better than Commesso or Gajan? I think Askarov is better, but is he worth Commesso and a 1st?

I could be wrong, but I don’t see the Hawks going after Askarov.

1. It’s unlikely that Nashville trades Askarov to a team that can haunt them for the next 10+ years.

2. Is Askarov with the high price? Is he that much better than Commesso or Gajan? I think Askarov is better, but is he worth Commesso and a 1st?
- DarthKane

I did say in the post you responded to, that I was against acquiring Askarov. Darth you provide two additional reasons to not trade for Askarov

I will add, however, that I am not convinced Comesso and or Gajan is going to pan out perhaps as good as you surmise. Comesso has some pro experience and shows promise, although I don't detect anything close to an elite ceiling. He may turn out to more than a middli' average NHL goaltender. Meanwhile Gajan needs to step up to the next level of competition and show good development.

I really cannot fairly say much about Gajan until he shows his ware at the professional AHLbecause few successfully go straight to the NHL. I would pay attention you any review you garner from watching his progress more closely, and of course wiz is as close as being in authority with his reviews. Goaltenders I know are maybe the hardest to predict how good they might become and usually need more developmental time.

I think you've mentioned him once or twice.
- Chunk

Ha ha, thanks for the reminder. I’ll try to only mention him once a week going forward.

Digging the roster for Tom Kurvers this year. Starting to see the draft picks playing together.

https://www.yardbarker.co...eleased/s1_16931_40742535

Add: Interesting that the only two FA signings for this are both North Bay Dmen, or looks like one was just traded
- vabeachbear

Wyatt Kennedy is a pretty good scrapper.

Wyatt Kennedy is a pretty good scrapper.
- wiz1901

He could then pair up with the other one, and they'd have the 2 Wyatts

He could then pair up with the other one, and they'd have the 2 Wyatts
- vabeachbear

Can you imagine hearing broadcasters say (pronounce):
Y at a goal
Y at a shot
That y at can really throw them

The Wings writer here posted a video of Compher (and his sister) and Kane training in Chicago. Nothing really exciting, but kinda neat to see Kane's practice habits and the differences between a guy like him and Compher.

The Wings writer here posted a video of Compher (and his sister) and Kane training in Chicago. Nothing really exciting, but kinda neat to see Kane's practice habits and the differences between a guy like him and Compher.
- Chunk

And Nazar also taking part in these Kane practice sessions.

https://x.com/CRoumelioti...tatus/1823770184990994558

And Nazar also taking part in these Kane practice sessions.

https://x.com/CRoumelioti...tatus/1823770184990994558
- boilermaker100

That's a clip from the same video.

The Det blogger here is a content machine. He's already on to the next, but you should be able to find it in his archive for the full video.

That's a clip from the same video.

The Det blogger here is a content machine. He's already on to the next, but you should be able to find it in his archive for the full video.
- Chunk

As far as Nazar working out with Kane and Compher, this is a nugget of good information. Nazar will be better prepared and in good physical condition - probably stronger, too - since he is training well with Kane/Compher

I really believe a key to Blackhawks competitiveness next season depending heavily not only on the team -wide competitiveness, but if there is a legitimate second offensive line
Maybe the fmen will have some room to strategically attack and make deep foray too but the second line needs the skillet of Nazar and one other descent talented scoring forward. We will get beat more badly than we thought if other teams treat us like only a one offensive capable productive line
team

As far as Nazar working out with Kane and Compher, this is a nugget of good information. Nazar will be better prepared and in good physical condition - probably stronger, too - since he is training well with Kane/Compher

I really believe a key to Blackhawks competitiveness next season depending heavily not only on the team -wide competitiveness, but if there is a legitimate second offensive line
Maybe the fmen will have some room to strategically attack and make deep foray too but the second line needs the skillet of Nazar and one other descent talented scoring forward. We will get beat more badly than we thought if other teams treat us like only a one offensive capable productive line
team
- jhawk59

Between Bedard, Hall, Kurashev, TT, Bertuzzi, Nazar, maybe Reichel I'm sure there will be another forward available to add talent to the second line. It's not going to be great, but it will definitely be more balanced than Bedard and then everyone else.

Between Bedard, Hall, Kurashev, TT, Bertuzzi, Nazar, maybe Reichel I'm sure there will be another forward available to add talent to the second line. It's not going to be great, but it will definitely be more balanced than Bedard and then everyone else.
- Chunk

You forgot Laine.

I've always been curious, if they are unwritten rules, how did the first person know they existed as rules?

- vabeachbear

Hahaha, i forget this crowd is quite literal.

The trade is a 23 y.o. Broberg for the 41st pick in next year's draft. St. Louis has the cap space to pay the $9.5 mil. over 2 years to see what Broberg is. They obviously either offered and were declined or thought the Oilers would not accept a second rounder for him.

Is that any worse than paying a 38 year old $9 million over the next 2 years because he is good in front of the microphone? Or a 34 year old rapidly declining defenseman $ 7.5 mil over the next 2 years. Neither of these contracts are tradeable, that is for sure.
- LAHawk

I was thinking about this and wondering what is the going rate for a forward who put up 37 points in 74 games played? And who's defensively responsible?

I was thinking about this and wondering what is the going rate for a forward who put up 37 points in 74 games played? And who's defensively responsible?
- BetweenTheDots

At 38, by far the best production in the last 8 years playing with Bedard, had like 2 points in the last 15 games and who can't keep up anymore (still laughing watching him trying to keep up with Ehlers in the Peg game that Ehlers broke out of a prolonged slump) and if properly slotted no better than a third liner. I don't think any other GM would pay him $9 million over the next 2 years.

But I will give him that he is a great interview.

I was thinking about this and wondering what is the going rate for a forward who put up 37 points in 74 games played? And who's defensively responsible?
- BetweenTheDots

Is he? Not much in his advanced stats indicate he is, and the regular stats are not kind either. Tough, and solid leader-type? Yes. He may know where he needs to be, but his body apparently can't keep up.

https://www.hockeystatcards.com/skater?id=8473422

Compared to Richardinson on the same team.

https://www.hockeystatcards.com/skater?id=8477450

For the record, I think JD scored way over his head and will regress in that area this year with less top 6 opportunity. Still think he is a really good 3C, but just won't back up that scoring pace.

At 38, by far the best production in the last 8 years playing with Bedard, had like 2 points in the last 15 games and who can't keep up anymore (still laughing watching him trying to keep up with Ehlers in the Peg game that Ehlers broke out of a prolonged slump) and if properly slotted no better than a third liner. I don't think any other GM would pay him $9 million over the next 2 years.

But I will give him that he is a great interview.
- LAHawk

Funny how you cherry pick things to fit your narrative.

Is he? Not much in his advanced stats indicate he is, and the regular stats are not kind either. Tough, and solid leader-type? Yes. He may know where he needs to be, but his body apparently can't keep up.

https://www.hockeystatcards.com/skater?id=8473422

Compared to Richardinson on the same team.

https://www.hockeystatcards.com/skater?id=8477450

For the record, I think JD scored way over his head and will regress in that area this year with less top 6 opportunity. Still think he is a really good 3C, but just won't back up that scoring pace.
- Chunk

So what's Foligno worth? Can we answer the question?

So what's Foligno worth? Can we answer the question?
- BetweenTheDots

To the Hawks, he's apparently worth $4.5M per year. Which at this point in time isn't a bad thing/big deal. I don't think you could make any argument that he would ever get that on the open market with a team that isn't in the unique position that the hawks are. It's not just the point production. His age showed last year and he'd have to be sheltered on a team that was contending, otherwise, he'd get turnstiled too often.

Just like Perry wasn't worth near what he received from the Hawks, but they needed to entice players somehow and had plenty of space.

Edit: Sorry, to answer your question, I'd guess somewhere around 1-1.5/year. Cam Atkinson comp?