Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
Aug 8 @ 3:10 PM ET
Nolan's problems only started after he was drafted, JD had health issues long before, during, and after the trade.
You can say the Flyers couldn't have foreseen Nolan's health issues but JD's injuries were a neon sign.
Despite the cluster that the CG situation was, the Ducks still had to throw in a 2nd round pick which means everyone involved thinks he's more of a lottery ticket than a likely thing. - Flyers_01
WRONG.
The biggest knock on Patrick was his injury history, which is why the Flyers publicly said it was nothing they were worried about.
The genetic migraine disorder didn't appear overnight. I know people want to blame concussions, but that is not what caused it.
Hexy had a hard-on for Patrick and nobody was changing his mind. That Wheat King connection ran deep. - Flyerz74
The 2017 draft was undisputedly, Nico Hesher or Nolan Patrick. I’m sick of this 7 years later hindsight. I’d love to read the post on this board the evening Patrick was drafted to the Flyers. Can anybody find it?
The 2017 draft season was undisputedly, Nico Hesher or Nolan Patrick. I’m sick of this 7 years later hindsight. I’d love to read the post on this board the evening Patrick was drafted to the Flyers. Can anybody find it? - roenick97
I’m honestly gonna look through this when I get a chance. Nobody and I mean nobody was clamoring for Cole Makar on this day 7 years ago. I understand the Flyers took a shot and missed but this “I would have done this” talk is nonsense.
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
Aug 8 @ 3:43 PM ET
Right, just like the Flyers have really mishandled York ? - jd250
They threw him on the top-pair immediately, on his off-side, out of short-term need. Not to mention they keep bringing in guys to slot ahead of him on the PP.
The 2017 draft was undisputedly, Nico Hesher or Nolan Patrick. I’m sick of this 7 years later hindsight. I’d love to read the post on this board the evening Patrick was drafted to the Flyers. Can anybody find it? - roenick97
Don't get me wrong, I agreed at the time for sure. But Hexy wasn't thinking about anyone other than his fellow wheat king.
I’m honestly gonna look through this when I get a chance. Nobody and I mean nobody was clamoring for Cole Makar on this day 7 years ago. I understand the Flyers took a shot and missed but this “I would have done this” talk is nonsense. - roenick97
Clarke's interview is responsible for the revisionist history. All to defend and deflect from Fletcher. I don't care how long the interview was, those statements are the basis for a lot of the handwringing.
So we’re moving the goal posts here. That’s what we are doing? What does Ryan Ellis’s career in Nashville have to do with the Philadelphia Flyers? If memory serves, Ryan Ellis may have been an injury prone, but he was also a very good defenseman in Nashville.
As for Risto, how you feel about him as a player is irrelevant. There were no signs of him being an injury prone player in Buffalo.
You’re reaching. - roenick97
There's no reaching, except by you. Drysdale as of today looks like being the third bad trade in a row for any injury prone RHD made by the Flyers. If you don't believe that, imagine what Anaheim would ask the Flyers to add to Drysdale to trade him for Gauthier.
America has some incredibly ignorant people and a few of them post here, so I think this dictionary definition will be helpful. Asylum is a word with more than one meaning.
1. the protection granted by a nation to someone who has left their native country as a political refugee.
"she applied for asylum and was granted refugee status"
2.
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an institution offering shelter and support to people who are mentally ill.
"he'd been committed to an asylum"
There's no reaching, except by you. Drysdale as of today looks like being the third bad trade in a row for any injury prone RHD made by the Flyers. If you don't believe that, imagine what Anaheim would ask the Flyers to add to Drysdale to trade him for Gauthier. - Feanor
When was Ristolainen considered injury prone prior to being traded to Philadelphia? What does Ellis being 30 have to do with Drysdale? Drysdale is 21. You’re reaching and you haven’t made a point as to how you aren’t.
Clarke's interview is responsible for the revisionist history. All to defend and deflect from Fletcher. I don't care how long the interview was, those statements are the basis for a lot of the handwringing. - Flyers_01
so the last 90 seconds of an hour long interview he was asked a question. he answered it. yeah that is really defending chuck. the clarke hate cracks me u
America has some incredibly ignorant people and a few of them post here, so I think this dictionary definition will be helpful. Asylum is a word with more than one meaning.
1. the protection granted by a nation to someone who has left their native country as a political refugee.
"she applied for asylum and was granted refugee status"
2.
dated
an institution offering shelter and support to people who are mentally ill.
"he'd been committed to an asylum" - Feanor
so the last 90 seconds of an hour long interview he was asked a question. he answered it. yeah that is really defending chuck. the clarke hate cracks me u - hello it's me 2050
On the latest episode of the Cam and Strick Podcast, Clarke blamed Hextall, who held the team's general manager position for a little over three seasons, for essentially everything wrong with the current roster. He pinned the somewhat miserable state of the franchise on Hextall's "huge mistakes" which, Clarke says, included some very questionable trades and draft choices, including the big one — passing on superstar defenseman Cale Makar.
I don't get why a few people keep dismissing Clarke's comments as off the cuff. Clarke's message was don't blame Chuck.
"We get the second pick in the draft and we end up drafting Nolan Patrick. None of our scouts wanted Nolan Patrick. I don't know where Patrick should have gone after his performances in Brandon, he's a pretty good player, but they certainly wanted Makar. Of course he went next. Now he's a superstar and Patrick hasn't played ... but Hextall made that choice himself."
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“Our scouts were so mad at Hexy for doing [the Schenn deal],” Clarke said. “We also had a chance to get O’Reilly from Buffalo. We didn’t. Obviously that was the manager’s decision, but that was another one that the scouts weren’t consulted on.”
It goes on and on. Plenty of published articles for you to brush up on. It's not like just some lone hockeybuzz's poster take.
On the latest episode of the Cam and Strick Podcast, Clarke blamed Hextall, who held the team's general manager position for a little over three seasons, for essentially everything wrong with the current roster. He pinned the somewhat miserable state of the franchise on Hextall's "huge mistakes" which, Clarke says, included some very questionable trades and draft choices, including the big one — passing on superstar defenseman Cale Makar.
I don't get why a few people keep dismissing Clarke's comments as off the cuff. Clarke's message was don't blame Chuck.
"We get the second pick in the draft and we end up drafting Nolan Patrick. None of our scouts wanted Nolan Patrick. I don't know where Patrick should have gone after his performances in Brandon, he's a pretty good player, but they certainly wanted Makar. Of course he went next. Now he's a superstar and Patrick hasn't played ... but Hextall made that choice himself."
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“Our scouts were so mad at Hexy for doing - Flyers_01[the Schenn deal],” Clarke said. “We also had a chance to get O’Reilly from Buffalo. We didn’t. Obviously that was the manager’s decision, but that was another one that the scouts weren’t consulted on.”
It goes on and on. Plenty of published articles for you to brush up on. It's not like just some lone hockeybuzz's poster take.
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
Aug 8 @ 6:59 PM ET
The only minor thing that gives me pause about the Clarke comments is that he has been known to throw people under the bus to protect the franchise and make the franchise look better in his eyes. Lindros and Neilson come to mind.
Other than that there seemed to be no indication the Flyers were ever going to pick anyone but Hischier or Patrick. Usually that kind of thing leaks to the pundits. It is probably attributed to Hextall's iron lock on the office. Not one person ever reported the Flyers were even thinking about looking at anyone but Hischier or Patrick.
