wo is "they" corky? anything else to offer today?
- hello it's me 2050

Deli rush, he’s busy

None of this says anything! What do we propose we do with Coots and an injured Risto? What defense are you trading? We will have a hopefully healthier Drysdale. We only saw this goalie tandem at the end of the season - we don’t even know what we have in them yet. Should we make a trade? We are a very young team as it is. What pipeline of talent is knocking down the door? We also have a good group of wingers made better with Michkov added and Can removed.

I’m not saying don’t do anything we are good but every teams situation is so different, what’s the point of knocking the flyers down a peg because they didn’t do what another team did?

I get you don’t want to “run it back” change for the sake of change isn’t always the best course of action. Overall our players are too young to just move them just because.
- anti-lame

- love "we"

- so the goalie tandem wasn't prepared last season? do tell. 

- love the young team spin making the rounds. who cares if young if the talent isn't all that great. So, looking at all these young players, just curious who you think will still be here in 5 years if the flyers are ever a contender? 

- there is no pipeline of talent. hasn't been for a very long time. that is an issue, no? don't see that changing much in the next few years

Deli rush, he’s busy
- ClaudeFather

just one dumb individual. pure entertainment.

Someone will 100% take Risto, GMs love big nasty Dmen. Any deal likely requires a contract sent back or retianed salary which im not a fan of. He will be hard to move but he can be moved.

Ellis I think can be moved easily. Contenders want those contracts for the LTIR to exceed the cap.

Flyers have Petersen, Ryan Johansen coming off the books, thats 7-8 mill right there. Ellis you know is LTIR for the rest of his career so they can exceed the cap by 6 mill

DeAngelo is off the books next season

EJ off the books next season

Hayes and Atkinson the season after that. (Approx 5 mill)

Flyers have 17.705 mill in free cap to sign 3 RFAs(That we care about) + Ellis LTIR space + the cap increase

Flyers can also move someone like Laughton out for 3 mill in space. Cates is currently making more than Hathaway, I doubt that continues. Probably something more comparable to Deslaurier or Poehling.

Deslaurier can also be waived and sent down if needed as well. It would bury most of his contract.

Cap situation isnt great but its far from bad.

No one outside of TK, Coots and Sanheim have NTC so literally anyone on the team could be moved at any point. Nothing is locked aside from 3 players.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

- so, if you move RR for an equally bad contract what exactly is accomplished at the end of the day cap wise?

- you full well know they will not move laughton. they have had numerous chances to do so and have refused.

- cates will be a RFA at years end. You do not think they will qualify him?

- as far as ND they will not waive him. not the flyers way.

what the flyers can do and will do are liek night and day.

It isnt contradicting. He is overpaid. Unless a GM thinks he is better than a 3rd pair D, you arent moving him without taking some money back. Im not saying it has to be another 5 mill player but they can take a contract back of 2-3 mil. Something like Kampf in TOR maybe at 2.4 mill. Flyers could bury at least half that contract in the minors.

Just because GMs would love a guy doesnt mean they would love the contract.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

with his playoff track record imo there will be teams after RR. Who wouldn't want a bruising tough as nails dman anchoring your 3rd pair for 3 playoff runs.......

@BR_OpenIce
Tony DeAngelo shares his side of the incident with Alexandar Georgiev that led to DeAngelo being waived by the Rangers

https://x.com/br_openice/...tatus/1823728636845023576



What a moron

(Guessing he probably did something similar here to get cast out by Torts)

@BR_OpenIce
Tony DeAngelo shares his side of the incident with Alexandar Georgiev that led to DeAngelo being waived by the Rangers

https://x.com/br_openice/...tatus/1823728636845023576



What a moron
- Tomahawk

feel like providing a summary as to why? it was brief so gave it a listen.

in other words, much ado about nothing. since it was tony d got blown out of proportion.

Seeler has a NTC for this season and next. He doesnt have one for the last two years of his deal.

Flyers cap situation has never been like it is today, Flyers always had big contracts with No move clauses or guys that just were not easy to move.

Moving players like Konecny, Farabee, Tippett, Frost, Michkov, York, Drysdale, Ersson, Brink, Foerster would be easy, especially before July 1st when all teams have cap space, IF the Flyers wanted to, which they most likely dont for most these players.

Risto can be moved next offseason. He is payed 5.5 next season and 4 mill in his final season. Teams wont care about a 2 year deal, it is why I didnt care too much about Fedotov's deal. If he sucks, whatever, just 1 year left after that season. It isnt like Jack Campbell where he had like 5 years left

The Flyers wouldnt be making any deals from a position of weakness, they are not desperate to clear cap, it is a want, not a need. Frankly Re-Signing Seeler was a mistake. I would have liked to see Attard, Ginning or Andrae make the jump. Two of them showed that they were ready last season.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Your viewpoint is really off base. By your definition, there isn't any team who has cap issues because they can easily move their top 10 players or so. It's the bottom of the lineup an the fringe players along with older players on higher cap hit and longer term deals that paint the picture. The bigger issue is what the Flyers will do once they clear cap space. It won't be pretty.

are the flyers rebuilding or trying to make the playoffs?
- hello it's me 2050

They are trying to win and make the playoffs
while drafting a ton in the next year or two and then signing free agents when some players are off the books. Like it or not, that’s the plan.

They are trying to win and make the playoffs
while drafting a ton in the next year or two and then signing free agents when some players are off the books. Like it or not, that’s the plan.
- anti-lame

That is 100% what the plan is.

That is 100% what the plan is.
- mickel25

What could go wrong?

They are trying to win and make the playoffs
while drafting a ton in the next year or two and then signing free agents when some players are off the books. Like it or not, that’s the plan.
- anti-lame

drafting is what every team does so new concept there.

as far as all the picks they have, they will very likely move several of them. Which is fine. for whom and how they move them will be the question.

I actually love this plan as it will be entertaining as hell to watch. IMO however I do not think they really have any said plan. It is a play it by ear see what happens will dictate approach.

- love "we"

- so the goalie tandem wasn't prepared last season? do tell. 

- love the young team spin making the rounds. who cares if young if the talent isn't all that great. So, looking at all these young players, just curious who you think will still be here in 5 years if the flyers are ever a contender? 

- there is no pipeline of talent. hasn't been for a very long time. that is an issue, no? don't see that changing much in the next few years
- hello it's me 2050

Errsson and Fedotov? Errsson thrust into #1 after losing Hart and Fedotov playing a handful of games? They did not have anywhere close to a “normal” season. Let’s see what they can do with a full camp, getting acclimated to their roles and in Fedotovs case, learning how to live in a new country. Are you saying the way the goalie situation shook out was ideal? An accurate depiction of what we have in them? 😂 maybe pay attention.

Also - you admit we are already young as it is - we have 3 youngish D and 3 vets on D. and our pipeline isn’t all that hot. So just put them in the NHL anyway? Where is the logic there? Sanheim and Seeler are fine and the type of players every team needs. You’re not going to see a d corp of 6 Yorks or Drysdale. They want defensemen and rovers. Ideally you move Risto and put one of those kids in the lineup. You gotta play Risto if you wanna move him though. We simply don’t have a D in the AHL that we are detrimentally holding back. No one is lighting up the AHL. If they are trying to win, they are putting the best D out there to win.

If it were a strip it bare rebuild (it’s not) the. I’d agree throw all of them in the nhl and see what happens. It’s not a strip it to the studs rebuild. The plan is what I stated above. Again, whether folks like it or not, fine - discuss. But the whole “is this a rebuild” schtick you have is pointless. You don’t like what they are doing, fine. But you’re not so stupid that you can’t see what they are doing, right? Why ask every day? Deal with it.

Errsson and Fedotov? Errsson thrust into #1 after losing Hart and Fedotov playing a handful of games? They did not have anywhere close to a “normal” season. Let’s see what they can do with a full camp, getting acclimated to their roles and in Fedotovs case, learning how to live in a new country. Are you saying the way the goalie situation shook out was ideal? An accurate depiction of what we have in them? 😂 maybe pay attention.

Also - you admit we are already young as it is - we have 3 youngish D and 3 vets on D. and our pipeline isn’t all that hot. So just put them in the NHL anyway? Where is the logic there?
- anti-lame

so Sam wasn't prepared to start the season? he had a full camp. I am not saying anything as responding to the statement you made that last year's tandem was not prepared. How did Sam not have anywhere near a normal season?

put who in the NHL? then can better answer your question. Flyers have 2 guys on D who should be getting a long look if they were rebuilding. Which you said they are not and I agree. Therefore, those guys will not get any legit look.

you telling anyone to pay attention is amusing.

so Sam wasn't prepared to start the season? he had a full camp. I am not saying anything as responding to the statement you made that last year's tandem was not prepared. How did Sam not have anywhere near a normal season?

put who in the NHL? then can better answer your question. Flyers have 2 guys on D who should be getting a long look if they were rebuilding. Which you said they are not and I agree. Therefore, those guys will not get any legit look.

you telling anyone to pay attention is amusing.
- hello it's me 2050

If you can’t grasp the bolded, you simply can’t be helped. You’re right - sam had a full camp. As a backup. His starter is going to jail, he had to jump in and be a no. 1 for the first time in his career and faltered near the end. He will go into next season with more experience, a better idea of where he stands on the goalie totem pole and likely be more focused without the hart distraction, as well as the vote of confidence from the team to start the season. You lost this argument the moment you started it. Whether he will be better - we gotta watch the games and see. But it’s without question he will be in a better, more focused head space to start this season as the number 1 vs being forced to do it mid season.

Who in the AHL is doing so good there that. Gotta actually play him first. We know they tried to move him according to EF (mick, am I allowed to cite him?)

feel like providing a summary as to why? it was brief so gave it a listen.

in other words, much ado about nothing. since it was tony d got blown out of proportion.
- hello it's me 2050

Literally only a turd like you would defend Deangelo. Fitting, really.

If you can’t grasp the bolded, you simply can’t be helped.

Who in the AHL is doing so good there that it’s malpractice to not have them in the NHL? Answer - no one. More middling talent. Trade Risto and give the best of those three a look.
- anti-lame

can't grasp it. lay it out for the board to see.

there is no one. That was the point. after x amount of years of suckage they have no one ready for the nhl. do you not think that is a disgrace that they have no one?

if they were rebuilding you so no sign seeler or ej. You give the 2 I mentioned plus zamula and Andrae the right to battle out for the last 3 spots.

Literally only a turd like you would defend Deangelo. Fitting, really.
- anti-lame

love tony d. great guy. great person. come up with your own verbiage.

how was that defending him? please elaborate.

- so, if you move RR for an equally bad contract what exactly is accomplished at the end of the day cap wise?

- you full well know they will not move laughton. they have had numerous chances to do so and have refused.

- cates will be a RFA at years end. You do not think they will qualify him?

- as far as ND they will not waive him. not the flyers way.

what the flyers can do and will do are liek night and day.
- hello it's me 2050

1) You clear space. If you take someone like Kampf back from TOR thats a 2.4 mill contract for a 5.1 mill contract. That is 2.7 mill in savings. Send him to the minors and its 4 mill in savings.

2) They will move Laughton eventually. They have rumoured to have offers on him, nothing proven. Once Luchenko is ready to make the jump the the NHL in 2-3 years who do you think is the odd man out? Couturier? He cant be moved unless He wants out. Frost? Neither Laughton or Luchenko would be a 2nd C type player. Poehling? Doubt the Flyers move a 26 year old 4th line C to keep a 31 year old C.

3) I mentioned Cates in another post. He currently makes more than Hathaway. Youi think thats gonna continue? Flyers wont give him more than 2 mill.

4) They absolutely will waive Deslaurier at some point. Torts has already shown a relunctance to play him. Deslaurier dressed in just 8 of the final 22 games. I can guarantee he will not get 60 games this season unless guys get hurt.

love tony d. great guy. great person. come up with your own verbiage.

how was that defending him? please elaborate.
- hello it's me 2050

He was pumped to meet my dad as a flyers fan and he said he had no idea who the (frank) he was when he met him. Even said “so what do you do” 😆

so Sam wasn't prepared to start the season? he had a full camp. I am not saying anything as responding to the statement you made that last year's tandem was not prepared. How did Sam not have anywhere near a normal season?

put who in the NHL? then can better answer your question. Flyers have 2 guys on D who should be getting a long look if they were rebuilding. Which you said they are not and I agree. Therefore, those guys will not get any legit look.

you telling anyone to pay attention is amusing.
- hello it's me 2050

Sam was prepared to be a backup not to play 80% of the final 35 games. He played just 2 games in October.

can't grasp it. lay it out for the board to see.

there is no one. That was the point. after x amount of years of suckage they have no one ready for the nhl. do you not think that is a disgrace that they have no one?

if they were rebuilding you so no sign seeler or ej. You give the 2 I mentioned plus zamula and Andrae the right to battle out for the last 3 spots.
- hello it's me 2050

Go read my edit.

They have no one in the AHL. But they have 3 young players currently playing in the nhl and Bonk in the wings. The guys in the A are just not that good. They are OK. It’s why they are in the A and York and Drysdale and zamula arent. I don’t think anyone is drooling over our pipeline - but that’s a completely different argument. Why do you insist they see NHL time if they aren’t that good?

Again with the “if you’re rebuilding” rhetoric? It’s not a strip it bare rebuild. You don’t like what’s happening but it’s what’s happening. You can answer your own questions once you come to terms with what their plan is.

If you can’t grasp the bolded, you simply can’t be helped. You’re right - sam had a full camp. As a backup. His starter is going to jail, he had to jump in and be a no. 1 for the first time in his career and faltered near the end. He will go into next season with more experience, a better idea of where he stands on the goalie totem pole and likely be more focused without the hart distraction, as well as the vote of confidence from the team to start the season. You lost this argument the moment you started it. Whether he will be better - we gotta watch the games and see. But it’s without question he will be in a better, more focused head space to start this season.

Who in the AHL is doing so good there that. Gotta actually play him first. We know they tried to move him according to EF (mick, am I allowed to cite him?)
- anti-lame

lost what argument you clown. you stated that last years goalie tandem was not prepared. that was a dumb statement. sam and hart were fully prepared.

What diff does it make if you're the backup or starter? camp is camp. figured a big time hockey player like yourself would know this, no? he has been a number #1 before, just not the nhl. he also faltered last season in LHV.

not that it matters, you think sam said and went into cap with I am the backup mindset.

so your telling me the team didnt have confidence in sam last season? so after the way he ended the year they wll now have a vote of confidence for him?

hart distraction lol. they knew at some point the hammer going to drop. if they didn't they are more dumb than I thought. if he was distracted by the hart situation then he isn't cut out to be a NHL goalie. it was his chance to shine, did he?

Go read my edit.

They have no one in the AHL. But they have 3 young players currently playing and Bonk in the wings. The guys in the A are just not that good. They are OK. It’s why they are in the A and York and Drysdale and zamula arent. I don’t think anyone is drooling over our pipeline - but that’s a completely different argument. Why don’t insist they see NHL time if they aren’t that good?
- anti-lame

so, it is a disgrace that after x amount of years of losing they have no one knocking on the door?

why would I insist on someone seeing nhl time if they are not that good or nhl caliber? Wait, I dont.

Sam was prepared to be a backup not to play 80% of the final 35 games. He played just 2 games in October.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

BS. A goalie is prepared to play all day every day. lame ass cop out excuse.

the organization knew at some point the hammer would come down on hart. after hart was exiled, the flyers did not have 2 nhl caliber goalies on their team or in the system.

the gm did nothing to address it. Why? any thoughts on that?