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NC_Scott
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 03.01.2022

Aug 14 @ 12:53 PM ET
I'd trade a first (probably in the mid to late 20s) to get rid of Kane and let Holloway walk. Unless they can find a taker for Ceci, too.
- jmatchett383


I’d take that trade as a Detroit fan. We’d have to shed some salary to make it work
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 1:47 PM ET
I'd trade a first (probably in the mid to late 20s) to get rid of Kane and let Holloway walk. Unless they can find a taker for Ceci, too.
- jmatchett383


Kane has to waive first with a full NMC this year. Not sure he would agree to that.

https://puckpedia.com/player/evander-kane
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Aug 14 @ 4:31 PM ET
I’m curious what trades/waivers/LTIR strategies will retain them both.
- NC_Scott


No good option. All the 5mil+ contracts are NMC except Ekholm, and you sure as heck don't move him. So, maybe Kane to have surgery (LTIR), move Ceci and Kulak, and suffer with Brown, Stetcher and maybe Wanner/Carrick as the 7TH D on the roster.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 15 @ 10:33 AM ET
Kane has to waive first with a full NMC this year. Not sure he would agree to that.

https://puckpedia.com/player/evander-kane

- jfkst1


Didn't know that, my bad.

Edit: Didn't there used to be a 10% summer cap cushion for situations like this where you need to work things out? If so, when did that go away?
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Aug 15 @ 2:40 PM ET
Didn't know that, my bad.

Edit: Didn't there used to be a 10% summer cap cushion for situations like this where you need to work things out? If so, when did that go away?

- jmatchett383


Pretty sure they can match both offer sheets and start the season with Kane on LTIR. The issue is that they won't be cap compliant like that in the regular season if they bring Kane off LTIR during the regular season.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Aug 15 @ 6:37 PM ET
I'm surprised Bowman didn't work out a trade for Brandon Saad before the offer sheets were tendered.
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Aug 15 @ 6:48 PM ET
Pretty sure they can match both offer sheets and start the season with Kane on LTIR. The issue is that they won't be cap compliant like that in the regular season if they bring Kane off LTIR during the regular season.
- jfkst1


Broberg maybe, but not the pair of them. $6.87 mil combined salaries, plus the Oil are already $342k over the cap. Even sending forwards down and running a 20 man roster, they would still come up short. And they'd have to "Stone" Kane for the season.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Aug 15 @ 7:19 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/blues...elp-family-of-former-blue

I know Brodziak played for the Oilers as well, and I believe his brother who was injured lives in Edmonton. So in case the Oilers haven't gotten the word out already, thought I would post here, for those with the ability to help out.
NC_Scott
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 03.01.2022

Aug 16 @ 10:26 AM ET
Bowman is still working the phones….
OilerKing
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.12.2017

Aug 16 @ 12:59 PM ET
Have been waiting for Jackson to respond to the deed by St Louis. Jackson is not part of the old boys GM club so was an okay target by Armstrong. I think the two teams had some interactions on July 01 that Armstrong didn't like even before Bowman came on the scene. I think the Oilers may match both offers although the Broberg offer I would not match and would take the compensation. That's was too much for a young player to make at this time. Holloway with be worth the 2-million by end of the season. I cant wait until Jackson retaliates for the St Louis moves. He isn't the kind of guy nor is the owner, to take that without a response down the road.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Aug 16 @ 3:57 PM ET
Have been waiting for Jackson to respond to the deed by St Louis. Jackson is not part of the old boys GM club so was an okay target by Armstrong. I think the two teams had some interactions on July 01 that Armstrong didn't like even before Bowman came on the scene. I think the Oilers may match both offers although the Broberg offer I would not match and would take the compensation. That's was too much for a young player to make at this time. Holloway with be worth the 2-million by end of the season. I cant wait until Jackson retaliates for the St Louis moves. He isn't the kind of guy nor is the owner, to take that without a response down the road.
- OilerKing

Are these the unwritten rules you were mentioning?
Why would Jackson retaliate when Bowman is the GM?
Can you please elaborate on the interactions they had?
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Aug 17 @ 4:58 AM ET
Have been waiting for Jackson to respond to the deed by St Louis. Jackson is not part of the old boys GM club so was an okay target by Armstrong. I think the two teams had some interactions on July 01 that Armstrong didn't like even before Bowman came on the scene. I think the Oilers may match both offers although the Broberg offer I would not match and would take the compensation. That's was too much for a young player to make at this time. Holloway with be worth the 2-million by end of the season. I cant wait until Jackson retaliates for the St Louis moves. He isn't the kind of guy nor is the owner, to take that without a response down the road.
- OilerKing


You know Bowman is the GM right?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Aug 18 @ 7:07 PM ET
You know Bowman is the GM right?
- Oildrum


Podkolzin and 3rd rd pick (from StL)

for

Holloway and 4th (to Van)

Maybe they're planning to match the Broberg OS?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 18 @ 7:49 PM ET
Podkolzin and 3rd rd pick (from StL)

for

Holloway and 4th (to Van)

Maybe they're planning to match the Broberg OS?

- dbot

I doubt it.

https://thehockeywriters....-unhappy-edmonton-oilers/

Karma for a disgusting organization that is pro-rape.
oiljapan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Tokyo
Joined: 10.22.2014

Aug 18 @ 11:55 PM ET
So Ceci's gone giving us some cap space.

Does that mean we keep Broberg, lose Holloway?
wizardofi
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 04.17.2011

Aug 19 @ 12:19 AM ET
So Ceci's gone giving us some cap space.

Does that mean we keep Broberg, lose Holloway?

- oiljapan


Bowman won two trades today. Let see how the rest of this plays out with Drai and Bouch needing to sign next year

wizardofi
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 04.17.2011

Aug 19 @ 12:24 AM ET
I doubt it.

https://thehockeywriters....-unhappy-edmonton-oilers/

Karma for a disgusting organization that is pro-rape.

- Marwood


Love those who spout when they know so little about the situation. It was all on McD, the president of the Hawks at the time, and he did nothing. Others paid for his choices and lack of action, and he ran a tight ship where his word was law in the organization. You did not speak out against him.

Bowman was the one who co-operated the most when it came to the report, which you obviously didn't read even though it was publicly available

https://www.jenner.com/a/...key-team-october-2021.pdf
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Aug 19 @ 2:17 AM ET
Podkolzin and 3rd rd pick (from StL)

for

Holloway and 4th (to Van)

Maybe they're planning to match the Broberg OS?

- dbot


Looking like the Oil have found a way to match both offer sheets. We lose Ceci and a 3rd rounder for Ty Emberson but can keep Broberg and Holloway. As long as Kane goes on LTIR.

Oilers traded a 4th round pick for Podzolkin.

Well done management.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Aug 19 @ 9:50 AM ET
I doubt it.

https://thehockeywriters....-unhappy-edmonton-oilers/

Karma for a disgusting organization that is pro-rape.

- Marwood


They have counseling for whatever happened to you.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 19 @ 11:11 AM ET
They have counseling for whatever happened to you.
- JLO961

I'm not the one condoning rape, JLo.
Go rent a van.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Aug 19 @ 12:07 PM ET
I'm not the one condoning rape, JLo.
Go rent a van.

- Marwood


I was partly serious actually. You're so overly passionate about this that it got me thinking that I will no longer push you on this subject etc. It's obviously a soft spot with you.

Other than the airbnb in Positano in the spring, I'm not much of a renter.
And I know a few hockey dads that absolutely love their vans. If you've got 3or4kids in hockey a van is quite practical. (Although I guess the new woke crowd doesn't like kids and hordes all of their parents' inheritance to themselves...hey! You should go to Italy... it's magical).
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