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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Aug 16 @ 7:07 PM ET
Was reading the Mac Swanson article on Pensburgh today.

JFresh's model had him as a 39% chance to be an NHL player and 16% chance of becoming a star. Data alone had him as a late first round pick. But because he's 5'7" 165, we got him in the 7th. We'll see if he overcomes the size, but I love getting a lottery ticket like this so late in the draft.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 16 @ 7:34 PM ET
Was reading the Mac Swanson article on Pensburgh today.

JFresh's model had him as a 39% chance to be an NHL player and 16% chance of becoming a star. Data alone had him as a late first round pick. But because he's 5'7" 165, we got him in the 7th. We'll see if he overcomes the size, but I love getting a lottery ticket like this so late in the draft.

- Tojo.


Where'd you see JFresh's model about him?... I can't seem to find it on his Twitter
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Aug 16 @ 7:48 PM ET
Meh, so far that's just coming from Madden. Same as Malkin leaving after this year. Who knows though, maybe it will be true at some point if this year is the disaster we fear
- Tojo.


Which means it’s just coming from… nothing.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 16 @ 8:02 PM ET
It was always going to fall apart eventually. Dubas wasn't hired to bring this core group a cup. It's been obvious from the start.
- BINGO!


Not entirely true

The reason Dubas held out for a 7 years deal. If the Karlsson move had worked out better and the Pens were more competitive I could have seen him burning a few years worth of 1st's trying to make some playoff noise and maybe cinderella a cup. With 7 years he had enough runway to rebuild when that attempt was complete and gain traction for his next contract

After last years disaster, and Sid's seeming commitment to stay, the focus has shifted to get started right now. Not to bottom out (Which I think is his real want) but to accumulate assets before a 1-2 year TANK when the trio is gone then a quick turnaround with some top picks and other youth in the system ready to hit the ground running

A 5 year deal would have been a mistake spending 3 years chasing and then needing a new contract right as the team is in full tank mode
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Aug 16 @ 9:30 PM ET
Which means it’s just coming from… nothing.
- ChrisMS

Exactly
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Aug 16 @ 9:31 PM ET
Where'd you see JFresh's model about him?... I can't seem to find it on his Twitter
- MattStrat

https://www.pensburgh.com...t-prospects-crosby-malkin

In the article. I no longer even know how to navigate the former Twitter lol
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 17 @ 3:27 AM ET
Not entirely true

The reason Dubas held out for a 7 years deal. If the Karlsson move had worked out better and the Pens were more competitive I could have seen him burning a few years worth of 1st's trying to make some playoff noise and maybe cinderella a cup. With 7 years he had enough runway to rebuild when that attempt was complete and gain traction for his next contract

After last years disaster, and Sid's seeming commitment to stay, the focus has shifted to get started right now. Not to bottom out (Which I think is his real want) but to accumulate assets before a 1-2 year TANK when the trio is gone then a quick turnaround with some top picks and other youth in the system ready to hit the ground running

A 5 year deal would have been a mistake spending 3 years chasing and then needing a new contract right as the team is in full tank mode

- RoloTahmasee

It’s whatever. Crosby will re-sign. Then everyone will retire, and then we’ll tank and rebuild. Fortunatamente, we have Dubas instead of Ken Holland. It’ll suck but we will be fine. We enjoyed the ride and now it’s time pay the piper. Enjoy watching Crosby, Malkin, and probably Letang not put on a different sweater while it lasts and then stick around while it truly sucks so we can watch Yager and the boys lift the Cup in ten years time, assuming I’m still alive. Either way, it’ll be tight
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Aug 17 @ 4:19 AM ET
Which means it’s just coming from… nothing.
- ChrisMS

Where do you base this from? Madden is probably the most connected media source to the Penguins in Pittsburgh. Outside of the media that works for the penguins.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Aug 17 @ 11:55 AM ET
Where do you base this from? Madden is probably the most connected media source to the Penguins in Pittsburgh. Outside of the media that works for the penguins.
- Grinder47

Connected and tells the truth are two different things.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 17 @ 12:39 PM ET
Was reading the Mac Swanson article on Pensburgh today.

JFresh's model had him as a 39% chance to be an NHL player and 16% chance of becoming a star. Data alone had him as a late first round pick. But because he's 5'7" 165, we got him in the 7th. We'll see if he overcomes the size, but I love getting a lottery ticket like this so late in the draft.

- Tojo.


You don’t see too many smaller players in the league but there have been a few if he can bring the tenacity.

Everyone thinks gruden is close to the bottom 6 and although he’s 6’ he’s only listed at 172. 5 more pounds than Swanson so he’s probably pretty thick for a munchkin. Here’s hoping he has that Gerbe or (Theo) Fleury in him.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 17 @ 5:19 PM ET
Connected and tells the truth are two different things.
- Tojo.

Yeah you just gotta throw out anything he says because it’s impossible to tell when he’s actually scooping or just playing his heel character for engagement.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Aug 17 @ 8:50 PM ET
Connected and tells the truth are two different things.
- Tojo.


Neither are true. He isn’t at all connected and that’s been proven repeatedly. He has a platform to say he’s connected and enough retards fell for it. And he’s also right about as often as a broken clock. Anyone who listens to him for hockey insight or news deserves what they get.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Aug 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
Neither are true. He isn’t at all connected and that’s been proven repeatedly. He has a platform to say he’s connected and enough retards fell for it. And he’s also right about as often as a broken clock. Anyone who listens to him for hockey insight or news deserves what they get.
- ChrisMS

Do you have any examples?
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Aug 18 @ 11:16 PM ET
Do you have any examples?
- Grinder47


Tribunereview.com. Just follow the breadcrumbs. Or donut crumbs. Whatever. They almost universally lead to nothing.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Aug 19 @ 5:58 AM ET
Tribunereview.com. Just follow the breadcrumbs. Or donut crumbs. Whatever. They almost universally lead to nothing.
- ChrisMS

How many times have you been a caller he made fun of?
sextoymagic
Location: cedar rapids, IA
Joined: 04.21.2014

Aug 19 @ 9:13 AM ET
Cody Glass could easily make an impact this season. He’s just being overly negative. Always with the glass completely empty mindset.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Aug 19 @ 1:02 PM ET
Cody Glass could easily make an impact this season. He’s just being overly negative. Always with the glass completely empty mindset.
- sextoymagic

He may well go the route of Jesse Puljujarvi, but I'm at least interested to see what Glass can do. I can't say that about most of our additions.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Aug 19 @ 1:02 PM ET
How many times have you been a caller he made fun of?
- Grinder47


Not dumb enough to bother trying. His goal is solely to self aggrandize by using his position behind the mike to try to make others sound dumber than him. I stopped listening to him years ago. I will occasionally read his articles… mostly cause he suckered me in via clickbait. But seeing how nearly everything he writes is wrong it’s never worth the click.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 19 @ 1:53 PM ET
Lots of front office changes. Fenway really inserting themselves a bit more in the penguins. A baseball guy now in charge of our analytics. But a lot more scouts.
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