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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 20 @ 9:33 AM ET
Struble for Matthews and a 2nd in 2026
- Symba007


Wow.

Since when do WE have to give a 2nd round pick in these trades?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 20 @ 9:34 AM ET
Wow.

Since when do WE have to give a 2nd round pick in these trades?

- Scabeh


yes. overpay..have to turn it down
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 20 @ 9:35 AM ET
yes. overpay..have to turn it down
- senstroll


No no it's fine, you guys just need to retain salary.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 20 @ 9:53 AM ET
man Davis Schneider has turned into the player you would expect from someone you never heard over 18 months ago
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 20 @ 10:16 AM ET
man Davis Schneider has turned into the player you would expect from someone you never heard over 18 months ago

- senstroll

Major slump for him. Had a great 2 months of this season and then all downhill from there.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 20 @ 10:17 AM ET
Looks like the oilers do not match and acquire Fischer and a 2028 3rd from St louis in another trade
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Aug 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
It's going to be interesting for sure. Still blown away how cheap they got this ugly mf.
- systemtool

With zero retention, the price is fairly reasonable. Not a lot of teams had the cap space to take on his contract.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 20 @ 10:38 AM ET
With zero retention, the price is fairly reasonable. Not a lot of teams had the cap space to take on his contract.
- Whipper


Yup, Habs were in perfect position to take that gamble.

Worst case scenario, he ends up being injured again and we lost a decent young defenseman on the left side, which we have more than enough of.

The best case scenario of Laine going back to his best self is well worth the risk.

The fact he only has 2 years left on his contract is also a big factor here.... doubt the Habs would have done the same if he had 4 years or more left.
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Aug 20 @ 10:40 AM ET
Looks like the oilers do not match and acquire Fischer and a 2028 3rd from St louis in another trade
- Fakepartofme

Is this secondary trade a "sorry we kinda forced your hand" or a "hey, don't match and we'll throw in this sweetener?"

Discuss.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 20 @ 10:48 AM ET
Yup, Habs were in perfect position to take that gamble.

Worst case scenario, he ends up being injured again and we lost a decent young defenseman on the left side, which we have more than enough of.

The best case scenario of Laine going back to his best self is well worth the risk.

The fact he only has 2 years left on his contract is also a big factor here.... doubt the Habs would have done the same if he had 4 years or more left.

- Scabeh

When he's on, he's a point a game player.

That's an easy gamble to make, if you have the cap space.
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Aug 20 @ 10:48 AM ET
When he's on, he's a point a game player.

That's an easy gamble to make, if you have the cap space.

- Atomic Wedgie

No doubt, but hopefully it fails spectacularly
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 20 @ 10:53 AM ET
No doubt, but hopefully it fails spectacularly
- Whipper


I think that's the beauty of it.

Even if it did. The Habs still ended up trading a bottom pairing guy for what will likely be a early 2nd.

It's a no lose situation really.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Name the Traitors!, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 20 @ 10:57 AM ET
When he's on, he's a point a game player.

That's an easy gamble to make, if you have the cap space.

- Atomic Wedgie

when hes on what?
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Aug 20 @ 11:01 AM ET
I think that's the beauty of it.

Even if it did. The Habs still ended up trading a bottom pairing guy for what will likely be a early 2nd.

It's a no lose situation really.

- Scabeh

I think that's the beauty of it.

Laine could absolutely flame out, instilling horrible habits in all the young players and ruining their careers. Then, this bottom pairing guy could bloom into the D version of Martin St. Louis

Hey, a Leaf fan can dream.
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Aug 20 @ 11:01 AM ET
when hes on what?
- drexel

On the wagon.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Aug 20 @ 11:08 AM ET
Wow.

Since when do WE have to give a 2nd round pick in these trades?

- Scabeh

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 20 @ 11:20 AM ET
I’d love the leafs to go out and trade for Vatrano.

Robby and picks.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 20 @ 11:22 AM ET
I think that's the beauty of it.

Even if it did. The Habs still ended up trading a bottom pairing guy for what will likely be a early 2nd.

It's a no lose situation really.

- Scabeh


Laine could have two career years with the Habs, helping them to 9th place both years, and then sign a megadeal with Montreal which immediately becomes an albatross on their cap for years to come.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Aug 20 @ 11:24 AM ET
I’d love the leafs to go out and trade for Vatrano.

Robby and picks.

- Santo_44

good idea!

dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Aug 20 @ 11:30 AM ET
I’d love the leafs to go out and trade for Vatrano.
Robby and picks.

- Santo_44

good idea!
- 21peter


but it needs more work as Vatrano's cap hit 3.6M and the Leafs don't that much space left.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Name the Traitors!, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 20 @ 11:33 AM ET
but it needs more work as Vatrano's cap hit 3.6M and the Leafs don't that much space left.
- dmnted

not to mention the extreme lack of picks to part with
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 20 @ 11:34 AM ET
but it needs more work as Vatrano's cap hit 3.6M and the Leafs don't that much space left.
- dmnted

Retention.

And I think Jarnkrok or Kampf gets traded before the season starts.

I also see Vegas is 3.5M over the cap. Something has to give there.

Wonder if they can pry Roy out of there.

Trade away Robertson and Kampf for picks.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Aug 20 @ 11:36 AM ET
not to mention the extreme lack of picks to part with
- drexel

Leafs have plenty of picks in 2027 or 28 but yeah they don't have much in the upcoming drafts to part with
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 20 @ 11:37 AM ET
Leafs have plenty of picks in 2027 or 28 but yeah they don't have much in the upcoming drafts to part with
- dmnted

I mean they drafted in the 1st round last draft.

They have their 2nd and a 1st in 2026…not saying they will use it now but if they want to add a big player this season they can and would depending on how they feel about their team when the time comes.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Aug 20 @ 11:41 AM ET
Retention.

And I think Jarnkrok or Kampf gets traded before the season starts.

- Santo_44

Both have N-MTC with no trade to team so this could be difficult to do.

I also see Vegas is 3.5M over the cap. Something has to give there.

Does this include Lehner 5M LTIR?

Wonder if they can pry Roy out of there.

Trade away Robertson and Kampf for picks.



there are options out there but will require some smart maneuvering by Tre and the gang
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