Have you ever witnessed the Flyers win the cup?
- Grinder47

Sure he has on video...it is in black and white though because its been so long. Flyer fans and the organization still live in the 70s around the Broad St Bullies thats all they write about and talk about here

Like the Flyers are a sought out destination?? Please...Do the names Gauthier and Kolosov mean anything to you?? Two of the Flyers best prospects who want nothing to do with the organization. Only players the Flyers can draw are guys like ND and Hathaway and even those guys they have to over pay to get. Maybe make the playoffs one of these years before boasting.
- hfc355

I’d take Des and Hathaway over 95percent of this vanilla latte of a lineup.

It's quite comical that Pens fans still think top end players want to play there. Everyone knows that you are hanging on for dear life! Boomer on the NHL Network gave Dubas a D- while Danny got a B+. Have fun treading water behind the Flyguys for the next 10 years. Michkov says hold my beer!
- Phillywhiteout

hahahaha this is one of the funniest things I've read here in a while. Thanks.

I’d take Des and Hathaway over 95percent of this vanilla latte of a lineup.
- Grinder47

Shocking revelation.

That’s never been the case though. Sid and Neal were like water and oil, Perron didn’t stick playing like that, and Sid kicked Kessel off his line before they could really try a thing. You can point to out of all of Sid’s long time wingers, only Guentzel has been a purely offensive sniper type forward and he wasn’t a floater at all, he was always in motion and finding soft spots everywhere on the ice. Laine doesn’t hunt his shot like Guentzel. He floats and waits for hit teammates to pass to him. Sid doesn’t work with that, and Malkin is too old to carry someone like that like he used to.
- Victoro311

Yeah actually that’s a valid point about those wingers he played with. I would have expected him on the 3rd line regardless and only moved him up if he did bring his A game. Oh well, Montreals issue now anyways. All in all still happy with dubas. Hayes is prob my least exciting player but draft stock he did good on.

That’s never been the case though. Sid and Neal were like water and oil, Perron didn’t stick playing like that, and Sid kicked Kessel off his line before they could really try a thing. You can point to out of all of Sid’s long time wingers, only Guentzel has been a purely offensive sniper type forward and he wasn’t a floater at all, he was always in motion and finding soft spots everywhere on the ice. Laine doesn’t hunt his shot like Guentzel. He floats and waits for hit teammates to pass to him. Sid doesn’t work with that, and Malkin is too old to carry someone like that like he used to.
- Victoro311

I can't say I've watched a lot of Laine, but those are good points. If he's a floater, he wouldn't work with Sid. Guentz got his nose dirty for a smallish player. It's one of the reasons I was worried about giving him a long term deal. Hard miles.

Shocking revelation.
- MattStrat

If you’re going to rebuild you have to do it with some balls.

I can't say I've watched a lot of Laine, but those are good points. If he's a floater, he wouldn't work with Sid. Guentz got his nose dirty for a smallish player. It's one of the reasons I was worried about giving him a long term deal. Hard miles.
- madmike71

Laine is somewhat of a more physical Kessel. I don't necessarily know if he would have been a fit for Crosby, but a perfect option for the PP and 3rd line scoring.

I don't know that Jake has gone "hard miles", but he always seemed a bit frail and he doesnt have a ton of speed to spare. So if he loses a step he goes from sure PPG player to a 60 point player. Kind of how Kessel fell off a cliff at the end of his career, except I expect that regression to happen sooner with Jake as Kessel in his 30's was quicker than Jake in his 20's.

Now it’s time to sign johansen for dirt cheap to a 1 year and flip him lol

Laine is somewhat of a more physical Kessel. I don't necessarily know if he would have been a fit for Crosby, but a perfect option for the PP and 3rd line scoring.

I don't know that Jake has gone "hard miles", but he always seemed a bit frail and he doesnt have a ton of speed to spare. So if he loses a step he goes from sure PPG player to a 60 point player. Kind of how Kessel fell off a cliff at the end of his career, except I expect that regression to happen sooner with Jake as Kessel in his 30's was quicker than Jake in his 20's.
- MacPatty

This was my line of thinking with Laine. He does have elite finishing ability and is a RH shot. I think he would have improved the PP...and didn't give two sh!ts where he slotted at ES haha. None of this is to say I disagree with Vics assessment of him, either. I just think he could have improved the Pens major Achilles heel last season while giving some more depth scoring and finishing ability.

Now it’s time to sign johansen for dirt cheap to a 1 year and flip him lol
- 10inchTerror

Sure, why not? haha...seriously...if he stinks bad, just like any other Pens player, it gets them closer to drafting in top 3 to 5 haha

If you’re going to rebuild you have to do it with some balls.
- Grinder47

I dont disagree with that statement but I think it means something different to both of us haha...and I dont think Dubas is rebuilding with balls in either way we mean it hahaha

Laine is somewhat of a more physical Kessel. I don't necessarily know if he would have been a fit for Crosby, but a perfect option for the PP and 3rd line scoring.

I don't know that Jake has gone "hard miles", but he always seemed a bit frail and he doesnt have a ton of speed to spare. So if he loses a step he goes from sure PPG player to a 60 point player. Kind of how Kessel fell off a cliff at the end of his career, except I expect that regression to happen sooner with Jake as Kessel in his 30's was quicker than Jake in his 20's.
- MacPatty

No he is not. Kessel was a really good puck carrier and an elite playmaker. Laine is only ever an above average playmaker and puck carrier when he’s at his peak engagement level, which rarely ever happens. Phil could make plays that dazzled while his mind was at the casino.

Laine is James Neal but even more inconsistent. His average engagement level has him camping on the dot all game.

No he is not. Kessel was a really good puck carrier and an elite playmaker. Laine is only ever an above average playmaker and puck carrier when he’s at his peak engagement level, which rarely ever happens. Phil could make plays that dazzled while his mind was at the casino.

Laine is James Neal but even more inconsistent. His average engagement level has him camping on the dot all game.
- Victoro311

I feel like your assessment will prove to be more of a thing that others thinking Laine is a super elite winger. He isn't.

hahahaha this is one of the funniest things I've read here in a while. Thanks.
- MattStrat

Don't worry, these are the flyer guys who also said the leafs wouldn't make the playoffs last year and that Ottawa/Detroit/Buffalo all had better chances.

I feel like your assessment will prove to be more of a thing that others thinking Laine is a super elite winger. He isn't.
- Aaron_85

I don’t think he is super elite or everyone would want him. But he was close to a point per game player for nearly every season he has played and can score consistently, even in Columbus. Last year he only played 18 games, aside from that he had 1 bad year when he first arrived in Cbus. I think he will do well in Montreal, especially on the pp, and I think this team could have used that, especially that pp part, and then flipped him next year. It would also make it appear they are still trying for those that care about that.

I don’t think he is super elite or everyone would want him. But he was close to a point per game player for nearly every season he has played and can score consistently, even in Columbus. Last year he only played 18 games, aside from that he had 1 bad year when he first arrived in Cbus. I think he will do well in Montreal, especially on the pp, and I think this team could have used that, especially that pp part, and then flipped him next year. It would also make it appear they are still trying for those that care about that.
- 10inchTerror

Exactly. He didn't have to be elite. The Pens don't have a top RH forward for the PP, so he could have helped them there and then been flipped down the road as Montreal is getting him at likely his lowest point.

But, Vic is right too. The Pens have already pulled in a second and a pair of thirds by taking on Hayes and Glass and that's not even all of Laine's cap. So they've done well anyways for assets. It's just that he MIGHT have helped the team more while accomplishing the same goals.

Exactly. He didn't have to be elite. The Pens don't have a top RH forward for the PP, so he could have helped them there and then been flipped down the road as Montreal is getting him at likely his lowest point.

But, Vic is right too. The Pens have already pulled in a second and a pair of thirds by taking on Hayes and Glass and that's not even all of Laine's cap. So they've done well anyways for assets. It's just that he MIGHT have helped the team more while accomplishing the same goals.
- Tojo.

I would have been more open to the possibility that Laine could be a buy low high upside acquisition for us if the coach weren’t Mike Sullivan. He’d be DOA here with Sully’s philosophy

I would have been more open to the possibility that Laine could be a buy low high upside acquisition for us if the coach weren’t Mike Sullivan. He’d be DOA here with Sully’s philosophy
- Victoro311

All you have to do to please Sully is be completely harmless on the ice.

Don't worry, these are the flyer guys who also said the leafs wouldn't make the playoffs last year and that Ottawa/Detroit/Buffalo all had better chances.

- Aaron_85

hahaha horrible take

Elite Prospects top 100 list... seeing Penguins on these lists again is a long lost feeling hahah

85th: Yager

79th: Brunicke

63rd: Pickering

https://www.reddit.com/r/...filiated_skater/#lightbox

Elite Prospects top 100 list... seeing Penguins on these lists again is a long lost feeling hahah

85th: Yager

79th: Brunicke

63rd: Pickering

https://www.reddit.com/r/...filiated_skater/#lightbox
- MattStrat

Pretty surprised to see Pickering that high. Higher than Yager too.

Pretty surprised to see Pickering that high. Higher than Yager too.
- madmike71

Yeah me too. I can see him being the bust out of any of these. I see with all his pain and growth spurt issues him being constantly injured unless he is completely past those issues and can pack on the muscle.

Pretty surprised to see Pickering that high. Higher than Yager too.
- madmike71

Might be because he's actually turning pro in the AHL this coming season. They had him ranked 29th on the list last year. So, it seems they don't think as highly of him a year later.

Give him a chance hahaha