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anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Aug 23 @ 6:17 PM ET
He doesn't have that potential?





- MBFlyerfan


With that definition, Laughton has a potential to be a franchise goalie 😂

You’re easily impressed by the shiny new toy, eh?

He has as much potential of being a “franchise goalie” as luchenko has at being a franchise center.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 23 @ 6:17 PM ET
Yea. Took some time off.

He hasn't put up the numbers he's projected as of yet, mainly because of injuries. But I'm looking at more than just numbers. I'm looking at a 22 year old who has shown that he clearly has the ability to justify all of the overwhelming positive reviews that he's been showered with.

I can see the smoothness in his stride, his excellent edge work, his balance, his terrific first tape to tape pass, his confidence...again, all this while playing on figuratively one leg. I'm looking forward to his game once totally healthy.

- 77rams


Reality is that yea, he can obviously skate but otherwise, he did not play well. He needs to get healthy and drastically improve if the Flyers are to make out well on that trade.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 23 @ 6:17 PM ET
2-3 years San Jose no question had the worst looking organization on paper and depleted pipeline…

They are still going to be bad next year so another top player added. Maybe they improve and start drafting where the Flyers do, added depth.

Flyers are 15 years in and have a potential superstar….

Cool.

- Glak18


Their prospect pool did a complete 180. Amazing what a couple of tank jobs will do.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Aug 23 @ 6:19 PM ET
Reality is that yea, he can obviously skate but otherwise, he did not play well. He needs to get healthy and drastically improve if the Flyers are to make out well on that trade.
- MJL


I don’t agree with this. If anything, as an injured player, moving his life around, being thrust into a PR debacle where he needed to be seen, he was fine.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 23 @ 6:19 PM ET
With that definition, Laughton has a potential to be a franchise goalie 😂

You’re easily impressed by the shiny new toy, eh?

He has as much potential of being a “franchise goalie” as luchenko has at being a franchise center.

- anti-lame


OK




anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Aug 23 @ 6:21 PM ET
OK





- MBFlyerfan



Every time a prospect wants out he’s touted as the hot new commodity. That rarely pans out.

I remember when Vesey was the most wanted player in the league by some. Great.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 23 @ 6:22 PM ET
Unless they move him to RW and move Hathaway or one of the other 2 4th liners. I dont see Laughton extending. Jett should be ready to make the jump by the time Laughton's deal is done.

Only other way is a worst case in which Flyers move a top 6 winger to make room for Laughton which be an awful decision and one I dont think Briere would make. Hathaway has no trade protection so I see him as someone easily moved. Would fetch a decent return iof moved with term

While not super likely you also cant dismiss Flyers may still trade Konecny. No trade protection until July. Flyers have moved guys they signed before their contracts kicked in before. Still not likely.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


The eternal optimist. I'm wondering who is going to figure it out first. You or jd250?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 23 @ 6:23 PM ET
Their prospect pool did a complete 180. Amazing what a couple of tank jobs will do.
- Tomahawk


Tanking doesn’t guarantee a cup and it doesn’t guarantee an elite player…but it sure does give a team a better chance.

When was the last time a team went 10 years being a mediocre bubble team with limited elite talent won a cup?

Flyers need to ask themselves that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 23 @ 6:24 PM ET
Tanking doesn’t guarantee a cup and it doesn’t guarantee an elite player…but it sure does give a team a better chance.

When was the last time a team went 10 years being a mediocre bubble team with limited elite talent won a cup?

Flyers need to ask themselves that.

- Glak18


Sometimes versus never. Flyers are experts in never.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 23 @ 6:31 PM ET
Sometimes versus never. Flyers are experts in never.
- MJL


I’m calling it now…Calgary as an organization looks like poop. They will have a better looking team than the Flyers in 3 years if the Flyers don’t find a way to draft elite players.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 23 @ 6:37 PM ET
I’m calling it now…Calgary as an organization looks like poop. They will have a better looking team than the Flyers in 3 years if the Flyers don’t find a way to draft elite players.
- Glak18


For me that requires perspective. The Flyers may very well be back into the spending spree in free agency by then. The Flyers specialize in building an over priced, capped out playoff team that doesn't have a chance in hell of winning the cup. What the Flyers are doing is not a rebuild. It's just a pause until they can get some more cap space and "thread the needle" as the team's Chief Cheerleader has said.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 23 @ 6:41 PM ET
Every time a prospect wants out he’s touted as the hot new commodity. That rarely pans out.

I remember when Vesey was the most wanted player in the league by some. Great.

- anti-lame



I get it. Usually when a goalie is drafted 11th overall there is the potential for them to be a franchise level goaltender. I don't care that he wanted out. I understand why he did because he was never going to be the starter while Saros was getting paid.

But 11th overall is 11th overall. And goalies who are drafted that high are drafted for potential.

Comparing apples to oranges and bringing up Luchanko and Laughton of all people? Wut?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Aug 23 @ 6:48 PM ET
Tampa , they picked Stamkos Hedman 1/2 in back to back years. 2 cups.
- ClaudeFather


I dont know that they tanked. They finished in bottom 10 for 3 seasons, then went to Conference finals then they finished in top 10 for 2 more years, made playoffs for the next 3 seasons
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Aug 23 @ 6:50 PM ET
The eternal optimist. I'm wondering who is going to figure it out first. You or jd250?
- MJL


You're right everything sucks. Ill just sit here and female dog and complain all day about things that the Flyers might do wrong
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 23 @ 6:54 PM ET
You're right everything sucks. Ill just sit here and female dog and complain all day about things that the Flyers might do wrong
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Or you can continue to live in fantasy land. Might do wrong? LOL. When the Flyers are as inept and incompetent as they have been. That's what happens. If you have the knowledge to recognize it and are genuine.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Aug 23 @ 7:13 PM ET
I get it. Usually when a goalie is drafted 11th overall there is the potential for them to be a franchise level goaltender. I don't care that he wanted out. I understand why he did because he was never going to be the starter while Saros was getting paid.

But 11th overall is 11th overall. And goalies who are drafted that high are drafted for potential.

Comparing apples to oranges and bringing up Luchanko and Laughton of all people? Wut?

- MBFlyerfan


All I said was pump the brakes on handing him a vezina lol

@ #5 Drysdale has a “potential” of being Bobby Orr 😆
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 23 @ 7:19 PM ET
Potential franchise goalie? 😆 maybe pump the breaks on that
- anti-lame

Askarov came into the league as the highest rated goalie prospect in a decade, maybe longer. The (frank) are you talking about lol.

San Jose was pretty much just as bad as the Flyers a few years ago. They’re looking stacked with high end prospects now while the Flyers have one. This is why this franchise goes nowhere.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Aug 23 @ 8:09 PM ET
Askarov came into the league as the highest rated goalie prospect in a decade, maybe longer. The (frank) are you talking about lol.

San Jose was pretty much just as bad as the Flyers a few years ago. They’re looking stacked with high end prospects now while the Flyers have one. This is why this franchise goes nowhere.

- hereticpride


ANH seemed stacked too yet they still havent managed to do anything despite all that young talent.

In 2018 Flyers prospect pool was envy of the league as well and we ended up with Jack
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Aug 23 @ 8:27 PM ET
ANH seemed stacked too yet they still havent managed to do anything despite all that young talent.

In 2018 Flyers prospect pool was envy of the league as well and we ended up with Jack

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Envy of the league is overstating it. It was a good prospect pool but, as everyone noted at the time, it was because of the quantity, not quality. The lack of elite talent was pointed out at the time.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Aug 23 @ 8:29 PM ET
Askarov came into the league as the highest rated goalie prospect in a decade, maybe longer. The (frank) are you talking about lol.

San Jose was pretty much just as bad as the Flyers a few years ago. They’re looking stacked with high end prospects now while the Flyers have one. This is why this franchise goes nowhere.

- hereticpride


He’s so good that Nashville couldn’t find a way to fit him into their plans lol
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 23 @ 8:30 PM ET
ANH seemed stacked too yet they still havent managed to do anything despite all that young talent.

In 2018 Flyers prospect pool was envy of the league as well and we ended up with Jack

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


That is completely overstating it. Their prospect pool was good but not really any blue chip potential elite players.

It's not a short process. Realistically, it's 7-10 years. The Flyers keep pushing that timeline back. 14 years and counting.

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Aug 23 @ 8:38 PM ET
ANH seemed stacked too yet they still havent managed to do anything despite all that young talent.

In 2018 Flyers prospect pool was envy of the league as well and we ended up with Jack

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


One might dare ask, why then continue to employ the morons in the scouting, and development positions?

dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Aug 23 @ 9:09 PM ET
Every time a prospect wants out he’s touted as the hot new commodity. That rarely pans out.

I remember when Vesey was the most wanted player in the league by some. Great.

- anti-lame


Askarov has franchise potential. He had it before the trade and has it after the trade. Vesey isn't and never was in the same realm as Askarov. I believe the Flyers missed out on the opportunity of acquiring Askarov, they could have beaten the San Jose offer. Not sure if the Flyers were inquiring though.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Aug 23 @ 9:49 PM ET
The sharks just got a lot better and faster at rebuilding. Go flyers!
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Aug 24 @ 6:50 AM ET
I get it. Usually when a goalie is drafted 11th overall there is the potential for them to be a franchise level goaltender. I don't care that he wanted out. I understand why he did because he was never going to be the starter while Saros was getting paid.

But 11th overall is 11th overall. And goalies who are drafted that high are drafted for potential.

Comparing apples to oranges and bringing up Luchanko and Laughton of all people? Wut?

- MBFlyerfan


I agree with you. Wanting out because they don't want to play for the team and wanting out because tjey have no chance of being a starter are completely different situations.
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