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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 24 @ 1:53 PM ET
The Flyers have a better chance of winning the Cup in the next 5 years than the Sharks do. That's all I need to know. Then we see what progresses after that time. Must be lots of folks with crystal balls on here. Where do you purchase them? I wants one!
- Phillywhiteout


Why? LOL. Lets simply look at the 3 most important positions on the ice. Center, defense and goaltending. Let's compare the top prospects for each of those positions and see who has the higher rated players. Then we can revisit after this upcoming season, when the Sharks are likely to get another top 5 pick in what is considered a very good draft, compared to where the Flyers draft. I don't know where to purchase a crystal ball. That's not what you need anyways. What you need is to find out where to purchase a brain. You need one.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Aug 24 @ 1:57 PM ET
The Flyers have a better chance of winning the Cup in the next 5 years than the Sharks do. That's all I need to know. Then we see what progresses after that time. Must be lots of folks with crystal balls on here. Where do you purchase them? I wants one!
- Phillywhiteout

Flyers have the same odds of winning the cup the next 3 years as SJ and that's ZERO...4 to 5 yrs from now SJ will have a better chance, if their top end prospects develop as expected. Flyers dont have a potential top tier elite prospect for goal. 1D or 1C but SJ does
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 24 @ 2:02 PM ET
Flyers have the same odds of winning the cup the next 3 years as SJ and that's ZERO...4 to 5 yrs from now SJ will have a better chance, if their top end prospects develop as expected. Flyers dont have a potential top tier elite prospect for goal. 1D or 1C but SJ does
- hfc355


San Jose has 3 of the top 11 rated prospects in the league. They have 6 players rated in the top 100. The Flyers have 2, Michkov and Bonk
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Aug 24 @ 2:56 PM ET
The sharks just got a lot better and faster at rebuilding. Go flyers!
- Bob Habib

Comcast Spectacor won't greenlight a tank & major rebuild for the flyers. So they have to hit the jackpot in free agency. Or some of the middling talent they draft has to defy their average talent status bigtime!
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Aug 24 @ 3:04 PM ET
So, let me get this straight. The Sharks have already sucked for how many years? They played to horrible attendance the past couple of years if I'm not mistaken? And their fans most likely have to wait 5 more years to be true contenders? I was just throwing the money angle out there for $hits and giggles. The fact is that they have been a horrid team for a few years now and will have no hope of winning for most likely at least 5 more years, and even then nothing will be guaranteed. This is what the masses on here want?
- Phillywhiteout


Depending on your definition of horrible attendance, my guess is you will be disappointed.

Your apocalyptic scenario is overstated.

WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Aug 24 @ 3:07 PM ET
San Jose has 3 of the top 11 rated prospects in the league. They have 6 players rated in the top 100. The Flyers have 2, Michkov and Bonk
- MJL

Flyers once had top 10 prospect pool and didn't win anything.

Prospects mean nothing until you see what they can do in the NHL.

You just hope some of the prospects turn into nhl players
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 24 @ 3:21 PM ET
Flyers once had top 10 prospect pool and didn't win anything.

Prospects mean nothing until you see what they can in the NHL.

You just hope some of the prospects turn into nhl players

- WhiskeyMan


LOL, the Flyers have never had 3 prospects that highly ranked to my knowledge.

The context is future chances to win the Cup.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Aug 24 @ 3:26 PM ET
People still defending this organization is truly astonishing.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Aug 24 @ 3:59 PM ET
Why? LOL. Lets simply look at the 3 most important positions on the ice. Center, defense and goaltending. Let's compare the top prospects for each of those positions and see who has the higher rated players. Then we can revisit after this upcoming season, when the Sharks are likely to get another top 5 pick in what is considered a very good draft, compared to where the Flyers draft. I don't know where to purchase a crystal ball. That's not what you need anyways. What you need is to find out where to purchase a brain. You need one.
- MJL


I can’t believe you actually typed this. And hit send. 😂
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 24 @ 4:03 PM ET
One might dare ask, why then continue to employ the morons in the scouting, and development positions?
- flyer_nutter


You know the answer to that
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Aug 24 @ 4:10 PM ET
People still defending this organization and still pays to see a mediocre product is truly astonishing.
- furio16


Yea, the paying customers keeping it afloat.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 24 @ 6:00 PM ET
san jose is going to be so (frank)ing good soon
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Aug 24 @ 6:17 PM ET
To play the devils advocate here. What did those years get the Sharks? The Flyers went to the Finals in 1997 and 2010 in that timeframe. They also went to the Conference Finals in 2000, 2004 and 2008. They should have won Cups in 2000 and 2010. The Sharks only made the Finals once and never won a Cup. They have now missed 6 straight years and that will continue for the next few seasons most likely. They were basically an AHL team last year with an abominable goal differential. Gave up 10 goals in back to back games. It appears that the Flyers way can work just as well. Either way you need some breaks and luck along the way. They are choosing to rebuild on the fly. Tanking is not the Flyers way and never will be. If you hate it there are 31 other teams to root for. I mean, people know these facts, so what gives? And yes, the last 12 years have been a disgrace in Flyers land, but that isn't because of their philosophy as much as it is an ode to their incompetent management.
- Phillywhiteout


They beat the Flyers
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Aug 24 @ 6:40 PM ET
Flyers have the same odds of winning the cup the next 3 years as SJ and that's ZERO...4 to 5 yrs from now SJ will have a better chance, if their top end prospects develop as expected. Flyers dont have a potential top tier elite prospect for goal. 1D or 1C but SJ does
- hfc355
Potential, potential and more potential! The Sabres have had oodles of potential for 15 years now. How's that been workin out for em?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Aug 24 @ 6:41 PM ET
san jose is going to be so (frank)ing good soon
- 2Real
Really? What's your definition of soon? Do the Birds have anything to be concerned about yet? You know, cause I really value your opinions on such things.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Aug 24 @ 6:42 PM ET
They beat the Flyers
- corduroy
Congrats to them! They still embarrassed themselves last season and played to an AHL crowd most nights.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Aug 24 @ 6:43 PM ET
I can’t believe you actually typed this. And hit send. 😂
- anti-lame
You'll have to excuse him. Apparently his panties are in a bunch again.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Aug 24 @ 6:46 PM ET
Flyers once had top 10 prospect pool and didn't win anything.

Prospects mean nothing until you see what they can do in the NHL.

You just hope some of the prospects turn into nhl players

- WhiskeyMan
Shhh...all the San Jose Shark fans on here don't want to hear this reality. They have already anointed them the Stanley Cup Champions in 2029! They just put out a new blog and there are all of 3 comments. Perhaps some of you can wander over there and post about how much you are in love with what they are doing! Just a thought...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 24 @ 7:48 PM ET
Potential, potential and more potential! The Sabres have had oodles of potential for 15 years now. How's that been workin out for em?
- Phillywhiteout


You and others keep making the wrong argument. You reference one team and ignore the methods that teams use to be successful. It's not hard to figure out.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 24 @ 7:51 PM ET
Shhh...all the San Jose Shark fans on here don't want to hear this reality. They have already anointed them the Stanley Cup Champions in 2029! They just put out a new blog and there are all of 3 comments. Perhaps some of you can wander over there and post about how much you are in love with what they are doing! Just a thought...
- Phillywhiteout


You continue to embarrass yourself. Imagine what you would be spouting if the Flyers had their prospect base.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Aug 24 @ 11:06 PM ET
You and others keep making the wrong argument. You reference one team and ignore the methods that teams use to be successful. It's not hard to figure out.
- MJL
I'll reference another team in a different league that plays in the same building as the Flyers. They embarrassed themselves like the Sharks did this past season. They won 10 games in an 82 game schedule thinking that tanking was the secret passage way to a title. They haven't even made it to the conference finals in their league since that tank. There are no guarantees. The St.Louis Blues and LA Kings say "HI"!
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Aug 24 @ 11:12 PM ET
You continue to embarrass yourself. Imagine what you would be spouting if the Flyers had their prospect base.
- MJL


There you go with your typical attacking other posters even though you claim that you don't do that. Perhaps you should hop on the Sharks and Sabres forums and provide them with your vast insight? They would love to hear your expertise as to how to successfully build a real hockey team.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 25 @ 5:22 AM ET
I'll reference another team in a different league that plays in the same building as the Flyers. They embarrassed themselves like the Sharks did this past season. They won 10 games in an 82 game schedule thinking that tanking was the secret passage way to a title. They haven't even made it to the conference finals in their league since that tank. There are no guarantees. The St.Louis Blues and LA Kings say "HI"!
- Phillywhiteout


This is not hard to understand but apparently for you, it is. Who has argued, stated or implied that there are any guarantees? Anybody? Which method has a significantly higher percentage of success? By far? Any clue?
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Aug 25 @ 6:36 AM ET
LOL, the Flyers have never had 3 prospects that highly ranked to my knowledge.

The context is future chances to win the Cup.

- MJL

Did I say top 3? Nope I said group.

Let's see the prospects play on the nhl before we annoint them super stars.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Aug 25 @ 6:37 AM ET
They beat the Flyers
- corduroy

And Edmonton.
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