Based on the articles you posted, I agree there is circumstantial evidence of driver negligence. Looks like driver was impatient because of slower car ahead, crossed lanes to overtake, probably in a rush, and failed to see that car ahead may have been driving slowly because of the safety of bikes ahead.

So sad.



- PT21

Ah, those articles linked have been updated (CBS with the content, ABC with a link to the update; apparently just a short time ago) and both say the driver failed the field sobriety test and now being detained in county jail. So the worst kind of negligence. And maybe not negligent at all, given how in our society today we should all be well aware that it's a really bad thing to get behind the wheel of a multi-ton vehicle capable of so much speed (and force) when our senses and abilities are diminished by something like alcohol.

And I'm hope that asshat rots in jail for the rest of his life. For the family and all other loved ones.

You think about the minor pain in comparison that it causes us from a distance and then think about what his Sister, family and close friends are going through. It's tough to deal with. Just needless stupidity. There are things such as Uber and Lyft available if you want to go out and drink. Extreme sadness and even worse, extreme anger.
- MJL

Every update just makes me more angry and sad.
- MBFlyerfan

That's why even as people like us who are on the periphery of knowing the guy, more as a star hockey player than as loved one or dear friend, and how we're running the gamut of emotions right now—and like you say, it's unimaginable how his family and closest of friends right now. As humans, we aren't meant to feel these devastatingly intense kinds of emotions all at the same time. At least outside of our worst nightmares. That's why it hurts so much.

I'm not trying to be flippant other than it's a way to cope. But the only comfort I'm feeling right now is that as all of you who might be living in the area and are coming here to post, then it rules you out of being the killer. That would be the ultimate gut punch if he was a fan and a frequent HB poster here.

As someone who used to ride a bike in the road a lot…it’s not just drunk drivers who are a danger. People just lose their poop when they have to wait a few seconds behind a bike rider. I’ve been brushed off the road, cursed at and have had stuff thrown at me. I stick to trails these days.
- Dkos

I've been I collisions both on my bicycle, and later in life, on my motorcycle. While not due to impaired drivers, they all were most definitely careless.

I only ride on trails now as well, though it's hard to ride for long lengths because of my injuries for life.

And I now drive a convertible to keep me off the seat of an MC. It's not the same, but it's close enough for me to resist the temptation to get back in the saddle.

Also, my last orthopedic surgeon warned me that if I got any more boo-boos with all the metal I got in me already, I may not be able to walk again if I break one of those metal reinforced bone/joints. So that's also incentive not to ride again on a MC.

For exercise, I'd like to try a recumbent bike for longer rides, but that means I'd have to now get something that can haul it to the trailhead, since it won't fit on a normal automobile bike rack.

Anyhow, most of my physical fitness now is done with swimming. And it's not as enjoyable with the lack of scenery you get on the bike. I still can hike pretty well and cover distance that way... when I have the time.

yes they should. love the death penalty, sadly not used nearly enough.
- hello it's me 2050

I think it's worse to rot in prison for life. Capital punishment (in the US at least) is an easy break for the person receiving the punishment.

You are wrong PT. It means if you were to be ready for a thief, why wouldn't you be ready for the lord. Its about effort and where you apply your energy.
- MBFlyerfan

Except that the parable refers to the past tense. The house has already been broken into.


Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into.

The interpretation you are offering is good. But it is refuted by reading the exact words, and also by every single text I found online.

That's why even as people like us who are on the periphery of knowing the guy, more as a star hockey player than as loved one or dear friend, and how we're running the gamut of emotions right now—and like you say, it's unimaginable how his family and closest of friends right now. As humans, we aren't meant to feel these devastatingly intense kinds of emotions all at the same time. At least outside of our worst nightmares. That's why it hurts so much.

I'm not trying to be flippant other than it's a way to cope. But the only comfort I'm feeling right now is that as all of you who might be living in the area and are coming here to post, then it rules you out of being the killer. That would be the ultimate gut punch if he was a fan and a frequent HB poster here.
- Bendecko

Ha ha.

I think it's worse to rot in prison for life. Capital punishment (in the US at least) is an easy break for the person receiving the punishment.
- Bendecko

Cost a lot of money to keep someone in prison for decades.

Thin out the prison population and fry the phuckers.

Except that the parable refers to the past tense. The house has already been broken into.


Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into.

The interpretation you are offering is good. But it is refuted by reading the exact words, and also by every single text I found online.
- PT21

still running?

Wow, you have made someone else's expression of faith in the face of tragedy about you. Your head must be a dark and lonely place. I feel sorry for you. Maybe you should reach out to your friend from Harvard more often. The smartest people generally find a balance between faith and intellect.
- jxt216

Not at all. I live in it and that we talk about ourselves.

I should indeed.

I've been I collisions both on my bicycle, and later in life, on my motorcycle. While not due to impaired drivers, they all were most definitely careless.

I only ride on trails now as well, though it's hard to ride for long lengths because of my injuries for life.

And I now drive a convertible to keep me off the seat of an MC. It's not the same, but it's close enough for me to resist the temptation to get back in the saddle.

Also, my last orthopedic surgeon warned me that if I got any more boo-boos with all the metal I got in me already, I may not be able to walk again if I break one of those metal reinforced bone/joints. So that's also incentive not to ride again on a MC.

For exercise, I'd like to try a recumbent bike for longer rides, but that means I'd have to now get something that can haul it to the trailhead, since it won't fit on a normal automobile bike rack.

Anyhow, most of my physical fitness now is done with swimming. And it's not as enjoyable with the lack of scenery you get on the bike. I still can hike pretty well and cover distance that way... when I have the time.
- Bendecko

I mostly just run on the treadmill anymore. Been thinking about getting a rowing machine. Can't figure out if I need to spend $2000 on one or if a $300 Amazon machine would do the trick.

I mostly just run on the treadmill anymore. Been thinking about getting a rowing machine. Can't figure out if I need to spend $2000 on one or if a $300 Amazon machine would do the trick.
- Dkos

SKIP the $300 machines. Trust me.

Consider this.

https://www.roguefitness.com/concept-2-skierg-2

There are gyms in the area that will let you try it out.

Here is the complete verse:

"Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into."

Now porridge brain, I really gotta go.






- PT21

You don't have the complete verse.

"Matthew 24: 42-44
Therefore, stay awake! For you do not know on which day your Lord will come. Be sure of this: if the master of the house had known the hour of night when the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and not let his house be broken into. So too, you also must be prepared, for at an hour you do not expect, the Son of Man will come."

The part your obviously missing is " So too, you also must be prepared, for at an hour you do not expect, the Son of Man will come."

Right after the entire verse has been posted stating exactly that?

Oooh, let me see, let me see:

How about lobotomized?

Me close?


🤣
- PT21

You didn't post the entire verse.

SKIP the $300 machines. Trust me.

Consider this.

https://www.roguefitness.com/concept-2-skierg-2

There are gyms in the area that will let you try it out.
- PT21

I'm looking for something that will work my legs too. Not sure I dig that vertical setup.
Looks like they have a more classic rowing machine under a grand https://www.roguefitness....-2-rowerg-rower-pm5-black

Perhaps because, like much of religious text/usage, it makes no sense.

The metaphor is about the sudden arrival of Jesus (like a thief breaking into your house). For a religious person, surely that is a good thing. You want that thief to come.

But the poster asks us to be ready/prepared. If you are ready/prepared for the thief, the thief will flee/not come. The thief being Jesus, surely that is a bad thing.

Oh well.
- PT21

https://www.dlshsi.edu.ph...ng%20of%20God%20is%20near.

Perhaps because, like much of religious text/usage, it makes no sense.

The metaphor is about the sudden arrival of Jesus (like a thief breaking into your house). For a religious person, surely that is a good thing. You want that thief to come.

But the poster asks us to be ready/prepared. If you are ready/prepared for the thief, the thief will flee/not come. The thief being Jesus, surely that is a bad thing.

Oh well.
- PT21

I don't think you understand the passage.

If sharing something of faith helps you deal with it, go right ahead. It is appropriate today. Ignore them and I got your back on this.
- MJL

Thank you!

No you didn't get it and your research sucked. Your friend doesn't know what he is talking about. This is just you using an appeal to authority fallacy.

The verse is very simple. The thief and Jesus are not the same in the verse. It is simply about being prepared for something that will happen. To encourage to be ready for the coming of God. To live your life in a Christian manner and to do good deeds to prepare for your time.

Only you PT, only you.
- MJL

Spot on! The thief is death itself, a time when God will ask you to make an account of your life and be judged. The point is you never will know when the thief will come so you need to be prepared at all times. That is why I thought it appropriate in this horrible trajedy.

Cost a lot of money to keep someone in prison for decades.

Thin out the prison population and fry the phuckers.
- hello it's me 2050

That would be bad news for the private corporations that are more and more being contracted by the government to run the prisons across this country. There's more incentive to keep people alive and incarcerated, as they get paid based on the number of inmates in each facility they run.

Also, it's a fallacy that it's cheaper. More resources are needed to keep an inmate on death row than in the general population. As well as all the legal costs and related costs spent on the entire appeals process, which is now guaranteed because of the 8th Amendment.

https://www.dlshsi.edu.ph/daily-lasallian-reflection-prayer/matthew-24-42-44#:~:text=Be%20sure%20of%20this%3A%20if,Son%20of%20Man%20will%20come.&text=The%20gospel%20tells%20us%20that%20the%20coming%20of%20God%20is%20near.
- MJL

Here is the part you highlighted:

"known the hour of night when the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and not let his house be broken into. So too, you also must be prepared, for at an hour you do not expect, the Son of Man will come.

Reflection
The gospel tells us that the coming of God is near"

The unexpected arrival of the Lord is indeed being compared to the unexpected arrival of a thief.

It is just an illogical verse with a poorly constructrd metaphor. Many parts of the Bible are like that. The Talmud and the Bhagavad Gita, parts I have read, are not

Spot on! The thief is death itself, a time when God will ask you to make an account of your life and be judged. The point is you never will know when the thief will come so you need to be prepared at all times. That is why I thought it appropriate in this horrible trajedy.
- jd250

But if you are prepared, you should never be thieved. Indeed, the verse says so.

But however prepared or not you are, death will come.

So, the analogy of thievery to death sucks.

I'm looking for something that will work my legs too. Not sure I dig that vertical setup.
Looks like they have a more classic rowing machine under a grand https://www.roguefitness....-2-rowerg-rower-pm5-black
- Dkos

It is a very very good rowing machine.

Here is the part you highlighted:

"known the hour of night when the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and not let his house be broken into. So too, you also must be prepared, for at an hour you do not expect, the Son of Man will come.

Reflection
The gospel tells us that the coming of God is near"

The unexpected arrival of the Lord is indeed being compared to the unexpected arrival of a thief.

It is just an illogical verse with a poorly constructrd metaphor. Many parts of the Bible are like that. The Talmus and the Bhagavad Gita, parts I have read, are not
- PT21

Not sure why it is so complicated, the speaker is teaching, he is simply using the thief to stress his point, you must be on watch for a thief, not knowing when they will come, you don't know when judgement day will come, you must be spiritually prepared for that day, and it is a daily task, not knowing when that day will be.

I don't think you understand the passage.
- jd250

The Bible was written 2000 years ago. People have been trying to figure out what it means ever since. I'm sort of envious of the folks that can commit to one interpretation. I can see where it could be comforting. I don't have that high regard for myself, or for man in general, to commit to it. Like Groucho Marx joke, "I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member". I just try to be decent to people and hope it all comes out in the wash.

Here is the part you highlighted:

"known the hour of night when the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and not let his house be broken into. So too, you also must be prepared, for at an hour you do not expect, the Son of Man will come.

Reflection
The gospel tells us that the coming of God is near"

The unexpected arrival of the Lord is indeed being compared to the unexpected arrival of a thief.

It is just an illogical verse with a poorly constructrd metaphor. Many parts of the Bible are like that. The Talmud and the Bhagavad Gita, parts I have read, are not
- PT21

The meaning of the verse is well documented.