Of course he would veer to the right of the road? How about of course he would stay in the lane and off the side of the road and remain patient to get where he was going. That's what a sensible unimpaired driver would do of course.
- MJL

The "of course" referred to how he ended up on the right fringe of the road, which I mused about on the previous post. Atibus explained why.

This is what I mean by your rapidly declining powers of even the most rudimentary of analysis. The MJL of 2010 would not have misunderstood the usage of 'of course' in 2010, compulsive arguing aside. It happens constantly nowadays.

But by all means, carry on in denial. I have done my bit.

Of course he would veer to the right of the road? How about of course he would stay in the lane and off the side of the road and remain patient to get where he was going. That's what a sensible unimpaired driver would do of course.
- MJL

cliff any thoughts on cars being equipped with breathalyzer test? wonder what the cost would be to have that.

The "of course" referred to how he ended up on the right fringe of the road, which I mused about on the previous post. Atibus explained why.

This is what I mean by your rapidly declining powers of even the most rudimentary of analysis. The MJL of 2010 would not have misunderstood the usage of 'of course' in 2010, compulsive arguing aside. It happens constantly nowadays.

But by all means, carry on in denial. I have done my bit.
- PT21

Moving to the right side of the road to pass, was "of course" not the right thing to do. It was the mistake of an impaired driver that killed two people. Of course the right thing to do was to stay in the lane.

Judging by your replies and your silly attempt at psycho analysis, of course it seems as though my understanding and analysis has hit a nerve with you and due to your ego and arrogance, you can't handle it. Showing that of course, I have done my bit.

By all means, keep being the arrogant fool that you are.

Interesting article today in hockey feed…Patrick Laine used his NTC to block deal to the Flyers. The deal would have seen RYJO go the other way and be put on LTIR. Not sure how authentic this story is but it is out there.

Interesting article today in hockey feed…Patrick Laine used his NTC to block deal to the Flyers. The deal would have seen RYJO go the other way and be put on LTIR. Not sure how authentic this story is but it is out there.
- landros 2

that's interesting. If true are the CO-GM and Coach-GM on the same page?

Not shocked he wouldn't want to come here at all.

Interesting article today in hockey feed…Patrick Laine used his NTC to block deal to the Flyers. The deal would have seen RYJO go the other way and be put on LTIR. Not sure how authentic this story is but it is out there.
- landros 2

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...y-blocked-trade-to-flyers


It would have been almost ironic had Columbus did this for salary cap reasons in light of the tragedy.

Another interesting story….Seth Jarvis signed in Carolina but has deferred $ to a ninth year that lowers his cap hit on a eight year deal…I didn’t even know this was a thing.

Interesting article today in hockey feed…Patrick Laine used his NTC to block deal to the Flyers. The deal would have seen RYJO go the other way and be put on LTIR. Not sure how authentic this story is but it is out there.
- landros 2

The only thing that gives me pause is that in that scenario, Johansen could not be placed on LTIR with Columbus being almost 16M under the upper limit.

However there are reports from legit sources that say that Laine nixed a deal to another team.

https://thehockeynews.com...-montr%C3%A9al-per-report

Another interesting story….Seth Jarvis signed in Carolina but has deferred $ to a ninth year that lowers his cap hit on a eight year deal…I didn’t even know this was a thing.
- landros 2

Link? Neither did I. I have never heard of such a thing.

https://www.gofundme.com/...-baby-tripp-after-tragedy

Link? Neither did I. I have never heard of such a thing.
- MJL

https://thehockeywriters....th-jarvis-unique-8-years/

https://thehockeywriters....th-jarvis-unique-8-years/
- MBFlyerfan

seems like a smart piece of business on the canes part as far as the deferment.

shocked the flyers cap guru never tried this.......

seems like a smart piece of business on the canes part as far as the deferment.

shocked the flyers cap guru never tried this.......
- hello it's me 2050

I am amazed more teams don't do this. I've never heard of it either. Maybe most players don't like the idea of deferring. I don't know.

https://thehockeywriters....th-jarvis-unique-8-years/
- MBFlyerfan

Obviously the player has to agree to it but I wonder why this hasn't been used far more often by other teams? Seems like a smart move for both sides.

I am amazed more teams don't do this. I've never heard of it either. Maybe most players don't like the idea of deferring. I don't know.
- MBFlyerfan

Here is an explanation of why players wouldnt do it.

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
Deferred money deals lower the cap hit because of a present value of money calculation. (The Year 9 money Jarvis is paid in 2033 won't be worth as much as it would be today.)

I am amazed more teams don't do this. I've never heard of it either. Maybe most players don't like the idea of deferring. I don't know.
- MBFlyerfan

as a player I would love it as gives me money later in life in case I piss a lot away

my guess teams don't understand it or know about it!!! half tongue in cheek.

Here is an explanation of why players wouldnt do it.
- MBFlyerfan

that money doesn't accrue any interest I wonder. Or just the lump sum of the deferment.

that money doesn't accrue any interest I wonder. Or just the lump sum of the deferment.
- hello it's me 2050

I wonder how the deferred money works if they decide to resign at the end of the deal? Does it get tacked on as part of the new cap hit?

MJL, do what you do best and figure this out lol

Here is an explanation of why players wouldnt do it.
- MBFlyerfan

It's true that with the cost of living increases, etc it won't be worth as much as today. It will be worth more in the future then not having it if it is spent.

I wonder how the deferred money works if they decide to resign at the end of the deal? Does it get tacked on as part of the new cap hit?

MJL, do what you do best and figure this out lol

- MBFlyerfan

This all new to me and I never even knew it existed. I've looked at a ton of contracts in the past and I've never seen this on any contract. It would take some research. It would be interesting to see how that would work if he signs a new deal. If he signs another deal after the expiration of that deal with another team, if the deferred payment stays on the Canes cap.

Here is an explanation of why players wouldnt do it.
- MBFlyerfan

Wouldn't that be true for a salary in say year 8 as well? Anytime salary is not front-loaded, the PV argument applies to the extent it is not.

It's true that with the cost of living increases, etc it won't be worth as much as today. It will be worth more in the future then not having it if it is spent.
- MJL

Also, if they don't resign at the end of the deal, does the deferred payment count against the cap for that amount in year 9?

Wouldn't that be true for a salary in say year 8 as well? Anytime salary is not front-loaded, the PV argument applies to the extent it is not.
- PT21

I have no idea. I am just happy to have a new subject to discuss.

I wonder how the deferred money works if they decide to resign at the end of the deal? Does it get tacked on as part of the new cap hit?

MJL, do what you do best and figure this out lol

- MBFlyerfan

Almost certainly it would be separate. It would be treated like a different player contract. The contracts could not bleed into each other. However, an implicit handshake agreement is always possible. 😉

Also, if they don't resign at the end of the deal, does the deferred payment count against the cap for that amount in year 9?
- MBFlyerfan

I would think it would have to. Just with a quick glancing, it seems as though its a calculation of present day value that determines if it lowers the AAV. Could also apparently help with taxes for the player. It doesn't seem to be done very often so perhaps it is an arrangement that one side or the other does not prefer. Most likely the player.