Really? So I guess I was imagining things when we had season tickets from 1985-2005. Yeah, they really sucked in that 20 year period! Eh what???
- Phillywhiteout

They have been below average since the salary cap took away Mr. Ed's advantage in spending away. 22nd in P% in a 32 team league.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...intPct&page=0&pageSize=50

But maybe their worst period was 1989-90 to 1993-1994 when they missed the playoffs five times in a row. And the league only had 21-24 teams back then, so you had to really suck to not make it.

Love how we complete our season series against VAN in the first 5 games.

Lots of teams in East have made improvements on paper. It will be a grind.
- cdearth23

Vancouver are missing their #1 goalie with an Ellis-type injury, so that could be a positive for the Flyers.

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- hello it's me 2050

They have been below average since the salary cap took away Mr. Ed's advantage in spending away. 22nd in P% in a 32 team league.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...intPct&page=0&pageSize=50

But maybe their worst period was 1989-90 to 1993-1994 when they missed the playoffs five times in a row. And the league only had 21-24 teams back then, so you had to really suck to not make it.
- Feanor

Finals in 1985 and 1987, Conference Finals in 1995 and Finals again in 1997. Then they made it to the conference Finals in 2000 and 2004 (game 7 losses). I'd like to see their winning pct. in that 20 year timeframe as a whole.

Finals in 1985 and 1987, Conference Finals in 1995 and Finals again in 1997. Then they made it to the conference Finals in 2000 and 2004 (game 7 losses). I'd like to see their winning pct. in that 20 year timeframe as a whole.
- Phillywhiteout

I seem to remember them being a very good team in that period

Finals in 1985 and 1987, Conference Finals in 1995 and Finals again in 1997. Then they made it to the conference Finals in 2000 and 2004 (game 7 losses). I'd like to see their winning pct. in that 20 year timeframe as a whole.
- Phillywhiteout

Also conference final in 1989, albeit after a disappointing regular season.

Really? So I guess I was imagining things when we had season tickets from 1985-2005. Yeah, they really sucked in that 20 year period! Eh what???
- Phillywhiteout

You really think they ever really had a legit chance of winning the Cup during those years of Oilers dynasties, Scotty Bowman, generational goalies, and Mario/Wayne/Nik?

The '97 smackdown was proof of just how lacking their team building philosophy was.

Also conference final in 1989, albeit after a disappointing regular season.
- bmeltzer

Ha ha, that's right. We were at game 6 of that series against the Habs. Hextall attacked Chelios (for a cheap hit on Propp earlier in the series) at the end of the game before the Flyers were eliminated.

Ha ha, that's right. We were at game 6 of that series against the Habs. Hextall attacked Chelios (for a cheap hit on Propp earlier in the series) at the end of the game before the Flyers were eliminated.
- Phillywhiteout

Remember it like yesterday. What I find funny is that most Canadian hockey fans don't remember why Hextall did that to Chelios and felt the innocent angel was unfairly targeted. They missed that Chelios nearly decapitated Propp with a vicious elbow to the head that drew blood earlier in the series.

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- hello it's me 2050

Well the cap go up to around 94 million i guess he thinks he should get more

You really think they ever really had a legit chance of winning the Cup during those years of Oilers dynasties, Scotty Bowman, generational goalies, and Mario/Wayne/Nik?

The '97 smackdown was proof of just how lacking their team building philosophy was.
- Tomahawk

In 1987, they took the Oilers to game 7, and actually scored first in that game, so yes, they had a legitimate shot at winning. I'd argue that if Pelle doesn't go down, they had a shot in 85 as well.

You really think they ever really had a legit chance of winning the Cup during those years of Oilers dynasties, Scotty Bowman, generational goalies, and Mario/Wayne/Nik?

The '97 smackdown was proof of just how lacking their team building philosophy was.
- Tomahawk

Changing the narrative a bit aren't ya? That doesn't mean that the Flyers weren't a good team and well run organization back then. And yes, they took the Oilers to game 7 in 1987 (actually led 1-0 in game 7) and that was without their best scorer (Tim Kerr) and their captain (Dave Poulin) playing with cracked ribs. Also, while they were swept by the Wings in 1997 the Flyers actually were favored by most pundits going into that series. The Flyers had buzz sawed their way through the east until they ran into the Wings. Hexy was not good in that series and that didn't help. Choked in the conference Finals against Jersey (Brodeur) in 2000 (had a 3-1 series lead with a battered Dallas team waiting in the wings).

Changing the narrative a bit aren't ya? That doesn't mean that the Flyers weren't a good team and well run organization back then. And yes, they took the Oilers to game 7 in 1987 (actually led 1-0 in game 7) and that was without their best scorer (Tim Kerr) and their captain (Dave Poulin) playing with cracked ribs. Also, while they were swept by the Wings in 1997 the Flyers actually were favored by most pundits going into that series. The Flyers had buzz sawed their way through the east until they ran into the Wings. Hexy was not good in that series and that didn't help. Choked in the conference Finals against Jersey in 2000 (had a 3-1 series lead with a battered Dallas team waiting in the wings).
- Phillywhiteout

A good point about 97. I think they were 12-3 through the EC playoffs. To say that they were a poorly constructed team and poorly run organization isn't accurate.

Vancouver are missing their #1 goalie with an Ellis-type injury, so that could be a positive for the Flyers.
- Feanor

I expect they will still beat us handily so a lot of people will be very happy.

A good point about 97. I think they were 12-3 through the EC playoffs. To say that they were a poorly constructed team and poorly run organization isn't accurate.
- Hextall271

That's correct. They won every series in the EC playoffs in 5 games on their way to the Finals.

Remember it like yesterday. What I find funny is that most Canadian hockey fans don't remember why Hextall did that to Chelios and felt the innocent angel was unfairly targeted. They missed that Chelios nearly decapitated Propp with a vicious elbow to the head that drew blood earlier in the series.
- Hextall271

I expect they will still beat us handily so a lot of people will be very happy.
- Hextall271

I feel these are the best games to get out of the way early. Vancouver is a contender if healthy. I feel a lot of contenders (not all) sometimes need to find their groove early in the season, which could be good for the Flyers. The NFL is a pretty good example of a league that hadn’t put out a good product in September because most of the players didn’t play in pre season or didn’t play with whom they normally play with. So everyone, especially the good teams are still finding a rhythm.

Flyers are going to surprise just like last year. A Tortorella team is greater than the sum of its parts.

A hell of a lot of effort to return to being a bubble team.

Snider or Comcast, both owner types have their pros and cons.

But what they've both have in common is that they hire front office folks who lack any kind of forethought, competence and patience. The last time the Flyers were ahead of the curve was in the 70's.
- Tomahawk

Yea ok.

Snider or Comcast, both owner types have their pros and cons.

But what they've both have in common is that they hire front office folks who lack any kind of forethought, competence and patience. The last time the Flyers were ahead of the curve was in the 70's.
- Tomahawk

Danny has been able to make the calls as GM for 1.5 seasons.
He has 1 really good draft and 1 draft that is up in the air.

lets give him a chance to shed some of the pieces brought in by fletcher and work with more salary.

Danny has been able to make the calls as GM for 1.5 seasons.
He has 1 really good draft and 1 draft that is up in the air.

lets give him a chance to shed some of the pieces brought in by fletcher and work with more salary.
- WhiskeyMan

They resigned chuckles guy's - outside of rr - who is there to get rid of? They could rid themselves of nd, they have chosen not to

A good point about 97. I think they were 12-3 through the EC playoffs. To say that they were a poorly constructed team and poorly run organization isn't accurate.
- Hextall271

That all just masked the fact that they were still running two mediocre goalies in an era of goaltending dominance, Clarke had an anti-Russian talent bias and the team didn't have anywhere close to the focus that the Wings had in finding talent out of Scandinavia and Eastern Europe. And SB was light years ahead of Murray with adjustments and strategy.

They were very behind the curve in philosophy and the Finals is where it was made super apparent.

Danny has been able to make the calls as GM for 1.5 seasons.
He has 1 really good draft and 1 draft that is up in the air.

lets give him a chance to shed some of the pieces brought in by fletcher and work with more salary.
- WhiskeyMan

The idea of the Flyers having more salary to work with, is frightening.

That all just masked the fact that they were still running two mediocre goalies in an era of goaltending dominance, Clarke had an anti-Russian talent bias and the team didn't have anywhere close to the focus that the Wings had in finding talent out of Scandinavia and Eastern Europe. And SB was light years ahead of Murray with adjustments and strategy.

They were very behind the curve in philosophy and the Finals is where it was made super apparent.
- Tomahawk

Let's be honest, in the regular season, Detroit's goaltending was no where close to being dominant. Vernon just got hot in the playoffs. I really think the strategy that Bowman developed to play the bigger and stronger Flyers is what beat them in that series.

They resigned chuckles guy's - outside of rr - who is there to get rid of? They could rid themselves of nd, they have chosen not to
- corduroy

Ellis Salary - 6.25 - off the books after 26/27
RR Salary - 5.1 - off the books after 26/27
Hayes Salary - 3.5 - off the books after 25/26
Cams Salary - 2.3 - off the books after 25/26
TDA Salary - 1.6 - off the books after this season

2 players he brought in via trade are gone after this season. Ryjo and Petersen - 7.8