I thought I read he was skating with Tuch and Tage.

I was thinking they were bringing him back to play with Quinn and Cozens due to Kulich practicing on line 2.
- DirtyDan

Makes sense, thanks DD.

Makes sense, thanks DD.
- QuinnFan

https://www.nhl.com/sabre...urgh-penguins-lineup-news

JJ Peterka will be in the lineup after missing the last two games with a concussion, Sabres coach Lindy Ruff announced. Peterka had been practicing with the team since Oct. 9 and spent Monday and Tuesday skating alongside Tage Thompson and Alex Tuch.

Peterka led the Sabres with four goals in three exhibition games after scoring a career-high 28 goals last season.

“JJ is a gifted goal scorer,” Ruff said. “I thought that line had good chemistry while we were using them. So, again, we’ve lacked a little finish. I think JJ gives us that extra layer of finish.”

Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen will start in goal. Luukkonen made a combined 106 saves on 112 shots in three starts against the Penguins last season (a .946 save percentage), including a 40-save win in Pittsburgh on Jan. 6.

No. Byram isn't it.

I'd honestly consider trading him for Ehlers but then I need RyJo to come up from Roch to play with Power. Im also not keen on giving Ehlers an 8 year extension at whatever $ amount he'd be asking for.
- DirtyDan

I wouldn't trade Byram for Ehlers, unless Ehlers is the final piece to get a Stanley Cup (and we known that ain't the Sabres). Jets are looking to trade him because they feel he's not worth the money that he will get.

I wouldn't trade Byram for Ehlers, unless Ehlers is the final piece to get a Stanley Cup (and we known that ain't the Sabres). Jets are looking to trade him because they feel he's not worth the money that he will get.
- BuffaloHerd

Im of the same opinion and I don't believe that.

They asked the world for Helly last offseason ended up paying him. Could be the same thing here.

If their price has dropped as Wedgie is implying maybe I make an offer. I ain't giving a top 6 forward whos years younger with control though.

Joker, RyJo, Greenway, Krebs, prospects, maybe a first. They can have their pick of that group.

Byram isn't on Power and Dahlin's level. He's not been as useful as hoped IMO.

Just my thought they require more on the D-end going into the future. Joker is about = to Liljegren. Add RyJo in there. Krebs replaces Ehlers (in the lineup). They're winger heavy with their prospects. Maybe they prefer Greenway. Wouldnt deter me if they would rather him.
- DirtyDan

Joker and Greenway are rentals. You don't build a trade around them. They don't hold much trade value.

I don't think Joker is still here if they could have dealt him for even moderate value.

As with most trades, if it's a guy you want, it's going to cost something that hurts.

Joker and Greenway are rentals. You don't build a trade around them. They don't hold much trade value.

I don't think Joker is still here if they could have dealt him for even moderate value.

As with most trades, if it's a guy you want, it's going to cost something that hurts.
- Lunaion

By the sounds of the Atomic man price has dropped. Which mean values have changed.

Joker and Krebs could be a start I said.

I also have stated Im not keen on trading for him. If its at a rental price I'd condsider based off the package.

Im of the same opinion and I don't believe that.

They asked the world for Helly last offseason ended up paying him. Could be the same thing here.

If their price has dropped as Wedgie is implying maybe I make an offer. I ain't giving a top 6 forward whos years younger with control though.

Joker, RyJo, Greenway, Krebs, prospects, maybe a first. They can have their pick of that group.

Byram isn't on Power and Dahlin's level. He's not been as useful as hoped IMO.
- DirtyDan

I agree, but I'm more optimistic on Byram and I definitely want to give him at least one full season with the team before he becomes a trade piece.

It's also interesting that we traded Mitts for Byram, so if we did use Byram to get Ehlers then its essentially Mitts for Ehlers, would it have been better to just keep Mitts?

Joker and Greenway are rentals. You don't build a trade around them. They don't hold much trade value.

I don't think Joker is still here if they could have dealt him for even moderate value.

As with most trades, if it's a guy you want, it's going to cost something that hurts.
- Lunaion

Ehlers is a rental, so he doesn't hold much trade value?

It looks like dahlin is our third best d this year after power and Byram.

I always thought power got a bad rep because he plays “boring”
- Shadman306

Definitely agree so far.

Power slows the game down a bit and controls the pace thru the first 4 . Drives me crazy that he has a hard time keeping the puck in at the blue line .

By the sounds of the Atomic man price has dropped. Which mean values have changed.

Joker and Krebs could be a start I said.

I also have stated Im not keen on trading for him. If its at a rental price I'd condsider based off the package.
- DirtyDan

Like I said, start with a piece that hurts, not with two expendables.

Ostlund/Helenius/Kulich and a 1st is a start.

Ehlers is a rental, so he doesn't hold much trade value?
- BuffaloHerd

Pretty big difference in player quality, right?

Like I said, start with a piece that hurts, not with two expendables.

Ostlund/Helenius/Kulich and a 1st is a start.
- Lunaion

One of the prospects or a first is a start im not giving 2 good futures for a rental.

Solely based my post on eklund post that Ehlers trade is a possibility right now and its likely Jets would want players that can play now and in the future. Greenway is UFA just like Ehlers who they can move at trade deadline if they aren't a playoff team, Krebs and RJo are both team controlled players early in their NHL careers. I don't get the feeling they would be looking for prospects/picks at this point in the season. If they move him at the deadline then yes they would likely want 1st rd pick.
- BuffaloHerd

Ehlers for a couple fringe nhl guys in Krebs and ry Jo seems a little one sided .

Add kulich and they may pick up the phone

Pretty big difference in player quality, right?
- Lunaion

Liljegren, Kampf, Reaves was stated to be a rumor by leaf fan that came in here.

If thats a rumor im not starting with 2 futures

Pretty big difference in player quality, right?
- Lunaion

Sure but ther's also a big difference between Ehlers on a reasonable contract with term vs UFA Ehlers. Maybe he wants Skinner money (9 mil for 7 years), you want to trade Ostlund/Helenius/Kulich and a 1st for a rental?

Ehlers would be a sh!te pick up anyways based off how we are playing. He don't fit our needs.

Liljegren, Kampf, Reaves was stated to be a rumor by leaf fan that came in here.

If thats a rumor im not starting with 2 futures

- DirtyDan

I don't care about what some random leaf fan thinks. They are going to make their insane offers too.

I don't care about what some random leaf fan thinks. They are going to make their insane offers too.
- Lunaion

Well thats where the convo was started and thats where these trade packages are based off.

Not my problem you didn't read back properly

Sure but ther's also a big difference between Ehlers on a reasonable contract with term vs UFA Ehlers. Maybe he wants Skinner money (9 mil for 7 years), you want to trade Ostlund/Helenius/Kulich and a 1st for a rental?
- BuffaloHerd

Not too big on the rent + extend after the see Buffalo idea personally, no.

What's Ehler's worth at the deadline? A 1st + a prospect at least, I'd think. Gotta be worth a little more now, wouldn't he?

Well thats where the convo was started and thats where these trade packages are based off.

Not my problem you didn't read back properly

- DirtyDan

Well, I did read it, laugh, and move on to the Sabres.

I don't care about what some random leaf fan thinks. They are going to make their insane offers too.
- Lunaion

Right now Ehlers is a UFA, so that is what you are trading for and he's not the piece that will get the Sabres a Cup this year. If it was McDavid as the rental, then sure the trade starts with Ostlund/Helenius/Kulich and a 1st.

Not too big on the rent + extend after the see Buffalo idea personally, no.

What's Ehler's worth at the deadline? A 1st + a prospect at least, I'd think. Gotta be worth a little more now, wouldn't he?
- Lunaion

He'd be second last in possession based metrics behind Kulich right now on our team.
He doesnt hit. And isn't very good defensively.

I'll give em RyJo, Krebs and a second.

Well, I did read it, laugh, and move on to the Sabres.
- Lunaion

Clearly not if you're arguing things I already stated

Clearly not if you're arguing things I already stated

- DirtyDan

Alright, well, Ek started this, so we know it's not serious anyways.

Not too big on the rent + extend after the see Buffalo idea personally, no.

What's Ehler's worth at the deadline? A 1st + a prospect at least, I'd think. Gotta be worth a little more now, wouldn't he?
- Lunaion

I don't disagree. We should also keep in mind that a team at the deadline is trading a 1st that is 25OA - 32OA, where the sabres trading a 1st is more likely a top 15 overall pick (big difference there too).

(edit) Isn't the Sabres 2nd rd pick essentially a 1st rounder?