Chris Johnston
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Oliver Ekman-Larsson has been fined $5,000 by @NHLPlayerSafety for his reverse-hit interference on Jake Guentzel in last night's Toronto-Tampa game.

12:06 PM · Oct 22, 2024
- Atomic Wedgie

Money well spent.

There was also a weird play last night where a Lightning player went down clutching his face - looked like he was trying to draw a high sticking penalty. It was at the blueline.

Play went on, and none of the Lightning players seemed to complain.

I would love to know what the deelio was on that one.

Toronto’s Oliver Ekman-Larsson has been fined $5,000, the maximum allowable under the CBA, for interference on Tampa Bay’s Jake Guentzel.

what kind of BS is this from the league

Toronto’s Oliver Ekman-Larsson has been fined $5,000, the maximum allowable under the CBA, for interference on Tampa Bay’s Jake Guentzel.

what kind of BS is this from the league
- dmnted

oh I’m sure $5K seems like a lot to someone who makes $3.5 million a year.

To him that’s like the cost we get ordering a double burger instead of a single one.

It's already happened that lawyers have cited legal precedents before the court based on AI doing its own research, which the humans didn't check. Turns out none of the cases were real, AI just made them up. But I think now if you give ChatGPT a legal research question it tells you to get a lawyer.
- Zezel

I interviewed a candidate for a role I had open back in August, our HR group continues to use MS Teams for interviews for external non-management roles because it's faster and more efficient (for them).

The candidate was clearly using Chat GPT or something similar, we would ask the question, the HR rep would post it in the meeting chat for the candidate to read if they needed to. The long delay while he 'read' the question OUT LOUD for each and every question combined with the response & language in the response which in no way, shape or form matched the way the candidate spoke when asked informal, personal questions was a dead give away.

The up side is the HR rep and I could have our own teams chat and identified this early and decided to push the candidate for more specifics about each response. Of course suddenly the responses that had all the right buzz words and were pretty good became "uh, well uh" and then almost every time no specifics could be recalled or provided.

Wild times we are in though.

oh I’m sure $5K seems like a lot to someone who makes $3.5 million a year.

To him that’s like the cost we get ordering a double burger instead of a single one.
- Dozzer

It's not the cost though it's the utter incompetence of the NHL DOPS and their insanely inconsistent application of these 'rules' and decisions that is troubling.

That hit happens so often & goes uncalled, hell more often than not the guy delivering the hit is applauded for being so savy and doing it.

OEL gets dinged for it and now they can saw he's a 'repeat offended' if / when applicable.

I guess he's getting a taste of what it's like to wear a Leaf jersey and deal with the DOPS.

I interviewed a candidate for a role I had open back in August, our HR group continues to use MS Teams for interviews for external non-management roles because it's faster and more efficient (for them).

The candidate was clearly using Chat GPT or something similar, we would ask the question, the HR rep would post it in the meeting chat for the candidate to read if they needed to. The long delay while he 'read' the question OUT LOUD for each and every question combined with the response & language in the response which in no way, shape or form matched the way the candidate spoke when asked informal, personal questions was a dead give away.

The up side is the HR rep and I could have our own teams chat and identified this early and decided to push the candidate for more specifics about each response. Of course suddenly the responses that had all the right buzz words and were pretty good became "uh, well uh" and then almost every time no specifics could be recalled or provided.

Wild times we are in though.
- Cush29

It's amazing to me the aversion that some people seem to have to doing their own learning, thinking and writing/speaking.

It's not the cost though it's the utter incompetence of the NHL DOPS and their insanely inconsistent application of these 'rules' and decisions that is troubling.

That hit happens so often & goes uncalled, hell more often than not the guy delivering the hit is applauded for being so savy and doing it.

OEL gets dinged for it and now they can saw he's a 'repeat offended' if / when applicable.

I guess he's getting a taste of what it's like to wear a Leaf jersey and deal with the DOPS.

- Cush29

Meh, who cares if he’s a “repeat offender” because he’s already at the maximum fine amount. He certainly isn’t the first to have a question mark beside his “illegal behaviour” lol

All in all I’m willing to bet that the billionaire owners don’t argue with the millionaire players over this when it comes to a CBA agreement. I doubt the owners are willing to have a strike over this dumbass nonsense, but the league has to have something in place lol.

I interviewed a candidate for a role I had open back in August, our HR group continues to use MS Teams for interviews for external non-management roles because it's faster and more efficient (for them).

The candidate was clearly using Chat GPT or something similar, we would ask the question, the HR rep would post it in the meeting chat for the candidate to read if they needed to. The long delay while he 'read' the question OUT LOUD for each and every question combined with the response & language in the response which in no way, shape or form matched the way the candidate spoke when asked informal, personal questions was a dead give away.

The up side is the HR rep and I could have our own teams chat and identified this early and decided to push the candidate for more specifics about each response. Of course suddenly the responses that had all the right buzz words and were pretty good became "uh, well uh" and then almost every time no specifics could be recalled or provided.

Wild times we are in though.
- Cush29

It sounds like your experience was frustrating, but let’s consider a few counterpoints. Firstly, it’s essential to remember that not all delays or changes in speech patterns indicate dishonesty. Some candidates might genuinely need extra time to formulate their thoughts, especially in a virtual setting where nerves can play a significant role.

Secondly, while AI tools like ChatGPT can be used unethically, they also serve as valuable resources for candidates to prepare for interviews and develop their responses. This isn't inherently negative—it shows they’re taking the interview seriously and want to present themselves in the best possible light.

Moreover, the real value of an interview isn’t just in the immediate answers given but in the candidate's overall fit for the role, their ability to think critically, and their interpersonal skills. If a candidate struggles when asked for specifics, it might be a sign of nervousness rather than deceit. A more supportive approach could help reveal their true capabilities.

Ultimately, it's about finding the balance between ensuring authenticity and recognizing that everyone has different ways of coping with the pressure of an interview setting.

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Yes, that's AI's response!!!!!

Hey, I've been working all morning on the reasons why the Toronto Maple Leafs will beat the Columbus Blue Jackets tonight:

Strong Offensive Lineup: The Maple Leafs have a formidable offensive lineup, led by Auston Matthews, who has been in excellent form with goals in each of the last three games. His linemates, Mitch Marner and William Nylander, have also been contributing significantly.

Defensive Depth: Toronto boasts a solid defensive core, with players like Morgan Rielly and Jake Muzzin providing stability and offensive support from the blue line.

Goaltending: Joseph Woll, who is expected to start, has shown promise in the past and could be a difference-maker if he brings his A-game tonight.

Injuries on the Blue Jackets: Columbus is dealing with several key injuries, including Boone Jenner and Erik Gudbranson, which could weaken their lineup and give the Maple Leafs an edge.

Recent Form: The Maple Leafs are coming off a dominant win over the Tampa Bay Lightning, and they'll be looking to carry that momentum into tonight's game.




You have to admit, it's better than Tanner.

Lol

Hey, I've been working all morning on the reasons why the Toronto Maple Leafs will beat the Columbus Blue Jackets tonight:

Strong Offensive Lineup: The Maple Leafs have a formidable offensive lineup, led by Auston Matthews, who has been in excellent form with goals in each of the last three games. His linemates, Mitch Marner and William Nylander, have also been contributing significantly.

Defensive Depth: Toronto boasts a solid defensive core, with players like Morgan Rielly and Jake Muzzin providing stability and offensive support from the blue line.

Goaltending: Joseph Woll, who is expected to start, has shown promise in the past and could be a difference-maker if he brings his A-game tonight.

Injuries on the Blue Jackets: Columbus is dealing with several key injuries, including Boone Jenner and Erik Gudbranson, which could weaken their lineup and give the Maple Leafs an edge.

Recent Form: The Maple Leafs are coming off a dominant win over the Tampa Bay Lightning, and they'll be looking to carry that momentum into tonight's game.




You have to admit, it's better than Tanner.
- Atomic Wedgie

sure, but would've been nice with some trendy advice aaand maybe a CD-of-the-week shoutout

oh I’m sure $5K seems like a lot to someone who makes $3.5 million a year.

To him that’s like the cost we get ordering a double burger instead of a single one.
- Dozzer

I not the finances that bother most of us. I don't care if the $5k fine is levied against a guy making $800k - it's still just money.

It's the constant optics that as soon as a player puts on the Leaf jersey they have a target from the DOPS - they are punished much more than other teams are. There are so many examples of this very play that have gone unpunished - and often heralded as a great hit - so this one is suddenly a fine?

I've seen the argument that Guentzel hadn't played the puck, but he was not only in the immediate vicinity of the puck, he was in the act of moving to the puck - which has always - ALWAYS - by precedent extended the rule that the player has possession because the defender can't be expected to know you're going to choose not to pay it or miss it.

I care because it's the act of putting OEL in the DOPS' crosshairs for larger suspensions in the future meanwhile there are far dirtier plays that completely ignored. The inconsistency in the league is maddening.

Meh, who cares if he’s a “repeat offender” because he’s already at the maximum fine amount. He certainly isn’t the first to have a question mark beside his “illegal behaviour” lol

All in all I’m willing to bet that the billionaire owners don’t argue with the millionaire players over this when it comes to a CBA agreement. I doubt the owners are willing to have a strike over this dumbass nonsense, but the league has to have something in place lol.
- Dozzer

The repeat offender tag is SUPPOSED TO influence what punishment a player gets if/when they commit their next DOPS 'crime'. That's why it's concerning / can be a problem. I bolded supposed to because apparently it's not the case for all - Brad Marchand is the prime example.

I don't doubt there is no real concern from a financial perspective to the players or owners.

AI is so stupid

last was edm with mcdavey and drysdale
- senstroll

Meh, people are too

So Hildeby showed well in his first NHL game.

Ahktyamov has started the year on fire in the AHL.

With Woll back and Hildeby back down...what are the odds Dubas trades for Murr dog?

Pens have gotten terrible goaltending, Murray was good in his last AHL start and the crease is crowded there.
- Santo_44

If he’s healthy and playing well, I want him around for the playoffs

It sounds like your experience was frustrating, but let’s consider a few counterpoints. Firstly, it’s essential to remember that not all delays or changes in speech patterns indicate dishonesty. Some candidates might genuinely need extra time to formulate their thoughts, especially in a virtual setting where nerves can play a significant role.

Secondly, while AI tools like ChatGPT can be used unethically, they also serve as valuable resources for candidates to prepare for interviews and develop their responses. This isn't inherently negative—it shows they’re taking the interview seriously and want to present themselves in the best possible light.

Moreover, the real value of an interview isn’t just in the immediate answers given but in the candidate's overall fit for the role, their ability to think critically, and their interpersonal skills. If a candidate struggles when asked for specifics, it might be a sign of nervousness rather than deceit. A more supportive approach could help reveal their true capabilities.

Ultimately, it's about finding the balance between ensuring authenticity and recognizing that everyone has different ways of coping with the pressure of an interview setting.

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Yes, that's AI's response!!!!!
- Atomic Wedgie

I was reading this and like WTF Wedgie and then got to the bottom.


I'm sure there are great reasons for things like Chat GPT to exist but to allow people to essentially have someone else answer interview questions for them ain't it!

I also greatly prefer in person interviews, most people who have interviewed others can tell the difference between a person who likely has the answer or insight you are after and are just too nervous to spit it out (and you can help them get there more often than not) vs those who just don't.

It's amazing to me the aversion that some people seem to have to doing their own learning, thinking and writing/speaking.
- Zezel

Amen.

I remember having to stifle a laugh when I asked someone "why do you think your a good fit for this role" and they replied "my mom told me to apply because she said I am qualified".

I wish I was kidding.

This was a candidate who was in their early to mid 30's.

I was reading this and like WTF Wedgie and then got to the bottom.


I'm sure there are great reasons for things like Chat GPT to exist but to allow people to essentially have someone else answer interview questions for them ain't it!

I also greatly prefer in person interviews, most people who have interviewed others can tell the difference between a person who likely has the answer or insight you are after and are just too nervous to spit it out (and you can help them get there more often than not) vs those who just don't.
- Cush29

My late father-in-law was the HR partner for one of the big 4 consulting firms, and then had his own consulting firm for many years.

He always thought that job interviews only assessed how well a candidate could do job interviews. It should only be a very small part of the overall decision - and that it's given far too much importance.

It's already happened that lawyers have cited legal precedents before the court based on AI doing its own research, which the humans didn't check. Turns out none of the cases were real, AI just made them up. But I think now if you give ChatGPT a legal research question it tells you to get a lawyer.
- Zezel

Sounds like the Innocence Project.

Hey, I've been working all morning on the reasons why the Toronto Maple Leafs will beat the Columbus Blue Jackets tonight:

Strong Offensive Lineup: The Maple Leafs have a formidable offensive lineup, led by Auston Matthews, who has been in excellent form with goals in each of the last three games. His linemates, Mitch Marner and William Nylander, have also been contributing significantly.

Defensive Depth: Toronto boasts a solid defensive core, with players like Morgan Rielly and Jake Muzzin providing stability and offensive support from the blue line.

Goaltending: Joseph Woll, who is expected to start, has shown promise in the past and could be a difference-maker if he brings his A-game tonight.

Injuries on the Blue Jackets: Columbus is dealing with several key injuries, including Boone Jenner and Erik Gudbranson, which could weaken their lineup and give the Maple Leafs an edge.

Recent Form: The Maple Leafs are coming off a dominant win over the Tampa Bay Lightning, and they'll be looking to carry that momentum into tonight's game.




You have to admit, it's better than Tanner.
- Atomic Wedgie

I asked Chat SKLPY about why the Leafs will beat CBJ tonight and it's answer was quite a bit shorter and to the point:

"Leafs will win because the CBJ have no Poon"

Hey, I've been working all morning on the reasons why the Toronto Maple Leafs will beat the Columbus Blue Jackets tonight:

Strong Offensive Lineup: The Maple Leafs have a formidable offensive lineup, led by Auston Matthews, who has been in excellent form with goals in each of the last three games. His linemates, Mitch Marner and William Nylander, have also been contributing significantly.

Defensive Depth: Toronto boasts a solid defensive core, with players like Morgan Rielly and Jake Muzzin providing stability and offensive support from the blue line.

Goaltending: Joseph Woll, who is expected to start, has shown promise in the past and could be a difference-maker if he brings his A-game tonight.

Injuries on the Blue Jackets: Columbus is dealing with several key injuries, including Boone Jenner and Erik Gudbranson, which could weaken their lineup and give the Maple Leafs an edge.

Recent Form: The Maple Leafs are coming off a dominant win over the Tampa Bay Lightning, and they'll be looking to carry that momentum into tonight's game.




You have to admit, it's better than Tanner.
- Atomic Wedgie

Lucky they are missing C #38

My late father-in-law was the HR partner for one of the big 4 consulting firms, and then had his own consulting firm for many years.

He always thought that job interviews only assessed how well a candidate could do job interviews. It should only be a very small part of the overall decision - and that it's given far too much importance.
- Atomic Wedgie

It's a great point from an internal competition standpoint as a good employer will have a really good sense of what each person who applied is all about. When it comes to external hires it's much harder, it really emphasizes the importance of a good, in depth review of resumes, validation of resume claims (either on line or in the interview or both) and good reference checks. I mean really good reference checks not just talking to the candidates best friend.

It never ceases to amaze me how crappy most organizations are with reference checks, I've had some terrible employee's who left to go to a new job (sometimes even for a promotion) and I was never called for a reference check. I just think to myself "If you had called me you may not have hired that donkey but they are your problem now not mine!" lol.

oh I’m sure $5K seems like a lot to someone who makes $3.5 million a year.

To him that’s like the cost we get ordering a double burger instead of a single one.
- Dozzer

Well he might be bringing home only $2.2 million after taxes, agents etc.....so it could be like a double burger with brownie shake and chicken tenders to go instead of a single burger.

;😜

It's amazing to me the aversion that some people seem to have to doing their own learning, thinking and writing/speaking.
- Zezel

So true.
Thats and also it's amazing to me the aversion that some people seem to have to doing their own learning, thinking and writing/speaking.