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Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 22 @ 10:07 PM ET
With guys like you who repeatedly attacked me with how blatantly wrong you've been and normally are. Yea, its about who has been right and who has been wrong. Nobody is right 100% of the time and it's about the balance of it. What you should do is start listening to those who know better than you. Not sure who is worse, you or JD.
- MJL
You're nothing more than a basic troll on here. Have you skated on skates other then the double runners that you probably used. Torts has a Stanley Cup and the second most wins in the NHL for U.S. born coaches, so he probably knows a little more about the game than you do. He just goes off the rails and loses his mind, or he just gets bored. Leave it to you. Now I'm gonna go back on Torts' side just to spite your sorry never played hockey ass.

Oh, I was wrong. Torts was actually the first American born coach to win 500 games in the NHL. He is 9th on the all time win list and has won two JACK ADAMS awards!! Thanks again!
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 22 @ 10:10 PM ET
I just don't see how it gets above .900 as a team. Ersson's career in 67 games played save %.892. We all hope he will develop into a workhorse #1. No sign of that yet. Ironically, the Avs might have similiar goaltending as the Flyers. Not sure, they have a long playodf run in them with their goaltending.
- Trox88
I really don't know what to make of Ersson. It's concerning that he just can't get that save pct. above .900. The league average is down this year so far. I think it's .897 for an average. I think Fedotov gets one more shot tomorrow night (if he plays) and if he craps the bed again they will almost have to see if Kolosov can do better. I picked them to finish last in the Metro at the start of the season because of their defense and tending, so not shocked. I thought that they would put the puck in the net though.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 22 @ 10:15 PM ET
You don't think that eventually that Konecny, Tippett, Frost, Farabee and Foerster will score some goals? That the teams offense will score more than they currently are?
- MJL


They’ll score some goals but this is group is going to struggle offensively
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 10:15 PM ET
You're nothing more than a basic troll on here. Have you skated on skates other then the double runners that you probably used. Torts has a Stanley Cup and the second most wins in the NHL for U.S. born coaches, so he probably knows a little more about the game than you do. He just goes off the rails and loses his mind, or he just gets bored. Leave it to you. Now I'm gonna go back on Torts' side just to spite your sorry never played hockey ass.
- Phillywhiteout


Nah, I'm not a troll. I just deal with guys like you and perform a public service. Someone has to do it. Tortorella used to be a good coach. He's not anymore. You lack the intelligence to understand how stupid a claim is that you think someone never played hockey. As is the appeal to authority fallacy that you try and play. Get used to it or change. That's your choices.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 10:17 PM ET
They’ll score some goals but this is group is going to struggle offensively
- Just5


They struggled offensively last season. I didn't say they would be good in the future. I just said they'll get better than they are now.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 22 @ 10:19 PM ET
Nah, I'm not a troll. I just deal with guys like you and perform a public service. Someone has to do it. Tortorella used to be a good coach. He's not anymore. You lack the intelligence to understand how stupid a claim is that you think someone never played hockey. As is the appeal to authority fallacy that you try and play. Get used to it or change. That's your choices.
- MJL
How do you get your head through the door with that ego. Actually telling complete strangers to change. Torts was the first American coach to 500 wins and he has TWO Jack Adams awards! I didn't know that. Oh, but some stats geek that NEVER laced em up knows more than him. You're hilarious! Thanks for the chuckle before sack time!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 10:22 PM ET
How do you get your head through the door with that ego. Actually telling complete strangers to change. Torts was the first American coach to 500 wins and he has TWO Jack Adams awards! I didn't know that. Oh, but some stats geek that NEVER laced em up knows more than him. You're hilarious! Thanks for the chuckle before sack time!
- Phillywhiteout


I love someone who doubles down on stupidity. Prove that I have never laced them up. Prove that you have.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 22 @ 10:28 PM ET
I love someone who doubles down on stupidity. Prove that I have never laced them up. Prove that you have.
- MJL
What's the problem? You asked me to change. I just made a major change in the space of a half hour. I came on here after the game tonight wanting Torts fired for the way that he is currently handling the team and after chatting with you I hope he stays here forever just to piss you off!!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 10:41 PM ET
What's the problem? You asked me to change. I just made a major change in the space of a half hour. I came on here after the game tonight wanting Torts fired for the way that he is currently handling the team and after chatting with you I hope he stays here forever just to piss you off!!

- Phillywhiteout


Prove that I have never laced them up. Prove that you have.

What I prove everyday is that I know more than you do. This is just another example.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 22 @ 10:47 PM ET
Prove that I have never laced them up. Prove that you have.

What I prove everyday is that I know more than you do. This is just another example.

- MJL
I could watch a hockey game with one eyeball tied behind my back and learn more from that game than you could ever learn by looking up stats. Baseball is a stats game, not hockey. Coots and Michkov had chemistry tonight, and should have been left together all night. Tippett was on the other wing and needs to visit the press box. See how that works? How do you want me to prove that I played? I could tell you my name and you could look it up, but that ain't gonna happen.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 10:57 PM ET
I could watch a hockey game with one eyeball tied behind my back and learn more from that game than you could ever learn by looking up stats. Baseball is a stats game, not hockey. Coots and Michkov had chemistry tonight, and should have been left together all night. Tippett was on the other wing and needs to visit the press box. See how that works? How do you want me to prove that I played? I could tell you my name and you could look it up, but that ain't gonna happen.
- Phillywhiteout


More stupidity. You turning on Tortorella now shows how slow you are to recognize what is going on. NHL teams spend millions of dollars and employ an analytics staff to gain an edge. Hockey is very much a stats sport.

You prove every day that your comment that learn more with one eyeball from watching the game is not reality.

You can't prove that you played just like you can't prove that I didn't. Yet you repeatedly make that asinine claim. You react that way because that is all you can come up with. You get what you deserve and you can't do anything about it.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 22 @ 11:10 PM ET
More stupidity. You turning on Tortorella now shows how slow you are to recognize what is going on. NHL teams spend millions of dollars and employ an analytics staff to gain an edge. Hockey is very much a stats sport.

You prove every day that your comment that learn more with one eyeball from watching the game is not reality.

You can't prove that you played just like you can't prove that I didn't. Yet you repeatedly make that asinine claim. You get what you deserve and you can't do anything about it.

- MJL
Ha ha, I get what I deserve and I can't do anything about it? What does that even mean? You really think you bother me that much? Now which one of us is sounding like a child. It would be very easy to prove who played and who didn't. We could agree to meet at a rink somewhere (halfway point). Have plenty of rinks out here in West Chester. There are 4 rinks at Iceline. I've been skating since I was 5 years old. I've lost a few steps over the years, but can still prolly skate circles around the average person. How bout you?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 11:12 PM ET
Ha ha, I get what I deserve and I can't do anything about it? What does that even mean? You really think you bother me that much? Now which one of us is sounding like a child. It would be very easy to prove who played and who didn't. We could agree to meet at a rink somewhere (halfway point). Have plenty of rinks out here in West Chester. There are 4 rinks at Iceline. I've been skating since I was 5 years old. I've lost a few steps over the years, but can still prolly skate circles around the average person. How bout you?
- Phillywhiteout


Thank you for proving my point. LOL
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 22 @ 11:15 PM ET
Thank you for proving my point. LOL
- MJL
Proving what point? Now your just talkin $hit and that's why many folks on here think you are a troll. It's just nonsensical drivel at this point.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 22 @ 11:22 PM ET
I see a serious lack of energy and effort from this team I didn’t see last year. The other night in Seattle not sticking up for Michkov when he was decked from behind is just one example. I really wonder if this team is playing for Torts any longer. I see I big similarity between the end of last season and the start to this season.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 22 @ 11:43 PM ET
I see a serious lack of energy and effort from this team I didn’t see last year. The other night in Seattle not sticking up for Michkov when he was decked from behind is just one example. I really wonder if this team is playing for Torts any longer. I see I big similarity between the end of last season and the start to this season.
- jd250
They look completely disjointed at this point. I think part of it is all the line shuffling, but one has to wonder if these players have had enough of Torts' crap. I mean, it's happened everywhere that he has coached. They aren't a very good hockey team and they have to play balls to the wall to compete, but something is amiss. I also think Michkov is head and shoulders better than anyone else on this team. He makes plays that they aren't expecting. He just sees the game at a different level. I just hope that he can handle the physical rigors of the NHL.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 23 @ 12:00 AM ET
I dunno why I visited the board tonight. I knew what to expect after that poop show. Lo and behold.

They deserve the crap they’re getting. It’s just poop shoveling back n forth. Their play. Fan response. Their play. Fan response.

I knew they were going to lose a lot and be a lottery team. I was just hoping they’d do it in a more entertaining fashion. Oh well.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 23 @ 12:05 AM ET
I dunno why I visited the board tonight. I knew what to expect after that poop show. Lo and behold.

They deserve the crap they’re getting. It’s just poop shoveling back n forth. Their play. Fan response. Their play. Fan response.

I knew they were going to lose a lot and be a lottery team. I was just hoping they’d do it in a more entertaining fashion. Oh well.

- Hesh_
I think that's the point. The entertainment factor isn't there. If they were losing entertaining 5-4 games we would still complain (lol), but at least it would be bearable. This is looking like the pre Torts teams that just mailed it in every night and that's when I will start tuning out.
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Oct 23 @ 12:27 AM ET
With guys like you who repeatedly attacked me with how blatantly wrong you've been and normally are. Yea, its about who has been right and who has been wrong. Nobody is right 100% of the time and it's about the balance of it. What you should do is start listening to those who know better than you. Not sure who is worse, you or JD.
- MJL

I've seen you attack everyone all the time that has a different of opinion, then you get in a huff and try to back what you say in stats( but what you forget is, not everything can be told truthfully in stats) and when ppl have strong points to there opinion you call names.

You are always negative and it's the cowardly way of a fan ( saying trots is a bad coach is hysterical) is he the right coach for a rebuild I'm not sure but I'm leaning on no.

I'm waiting for you to get all negative on michkov.

I have yet to see you make 1 positive claim on here.


2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 23 @ 1:56 AM ET
I dunno why I visited the board tonight. I knew what to expect after that poop show. Lo and behold.

They deserve the crap they’re getting. It’s just poop shoveling back n forth. Their play. Fan response. Their play. Fan response.

I knew they were going to lose a lot and be a lottery team. I was just hoping they’d do it in a more entertaining fashion. Oh well.

- Hesh_

i mean this team really does suck we have zero offensive ability
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 23 @ 5:54 AM ET
This is good, should prove to leadership, this is the year you let the tank take place. The next 2 drafts are needed to actually land the players needed. It is going to suck, but o well
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Oct 23 @ 6:19 AM ET
This is good, should prove to leadership, this is the year you let the tank take place. The next 2 drafts are needed to actually land the players needed. It is going to suck, but o well
- wcorvette


For myself I find this team very unlikable. This team is full of blah players who don’t move the needle much. MM is a rookie so I’ll give him a pass.
JL should be sent down.
TK is about the only extrovert on the team and imo should have been traded.
I see zero vision with the way this team is assembled.
Torterella is a clown and doesn’t know what to do with the players he has. I come to this conclusion by how he handles the lineup and constantly changes the line combinations.
One would think you would put lines together where they complement each others strengths.
Then stick with those lines for a few games.
DB doesn’t get off without criticism. He is the GM he is responsible for putting together a team not a roster of players.
These guys can say all day long the locker room is great.
Well locker room joy doesn’t not necessarily translate to being a winning team.
I will root for a couple of players such as MM, Ersson, York JL while he is here, Frost. The rest I am more or less neutral on.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 23 @ 6:50 AM ET
For myself I find this team very unlikable. This team is full of blah players who don’t move the needle much. MM is a rookie so I’ll give him a pass.
JL should be sent down.
TK is about the only extrovert on the team and imo should have been traded.
I see zero vision with the way this team is assembled.
Torterella is a clown and doesn’t know what to do with the players he has. I come to this conclusion by how he handles the lineup and constantly changes the line combinations.
One would think you would put lines together where they complement each others strengths.
Then stick with those lines for a few games.
DB doesn’t get off without criticism. He is the GM he is responsible for putting together a team not a roster of players.
These guys can say all day long the locker room is great.
Well locker room joy doesn’t not necessarily translate to being a winning team.
I will root for a couple of players such as MM, Ersson, York JL while he is here, Frost. The rest I am more or less neutral on.

- bird_dog_pa


last season, while fun to watch, was exactly what they didn't need, this season was all to predictable, the team has no go to players, except TK, and he is what he is. You hope they can grow a little and lose a lot, get into the top 5, then trade to re-shape the franchise. Hard to be a fan, hope is all we have had for a long while. I hope, what DB and Jones said was real, they mentioned the team taking a step back, it has and will, just let it happen. Torts, that guy is frustrating, could be a good coach if his ego was not in the way so much, he looks ridiculous right now, shuffling lines since game 1, like there was no pre-season, or he can't be patient to let them work it out.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 23 @ 7:11 AM ET
Proving what point? Now your just talkin $hit and that's why many folks on here think you are a troll. It's just nonsensical drivel at this point.
- Phillywhiteout


You've challenged me to an ice skating contest and made comments claiming that I never laced them up, which you couldn't possibly prove and what I post is just nonsensical drivel.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 23 @ 7:12 AM ET
last season, while fun to watch, was exactly what they didn't need, this season was all to predictable, the team has no go to players, except TK, and he is what he is. You hope they can grow a little and lose a lot, get into the top 5, then trade to re-shape the franchise. Hard to be a fan, hope is all we have had for a long while. I hope, what DB and Jones said was real, they mentioned the team taking a step back, it has and will, just let it happen. Torts, that guy is frustrating, could be a good coach if his ego was not in the way so much, he looks ridiculous right now, shuffling lines since game 1, like there was no pre-season, or he can't be patient to let them work it out.
- wcorvette
That's the part that cracks me up the most. He actually said that they need to stay patient in the in game interview during the second period and then he shows absolutely no patience at all in the way he handles the lines. He has become a clown show and this is coming from one of his backers. I do wonder if he just sees the writing and the wall and hopes he gets fired.
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