On the bottom 6 rebuild: Is the 4th line actually good, or is it just different, and actually worse...?
- kingcong39

Gotta be the later, right? Cheaper, more hits, but never expected to be very good at hockey. Defined roles, identity are good all but, but this is the 4th line you play a few minutes a night because your cap is maxed and it's the best you can do.

Dahlin got fined 5,000 for that slash last night

Holtz never played well under Lindy and fell down the lineup. He's a talented player that was relegated to the 4th line on a mid team. He took a few games to get going, with 0 points in his first 6 games with Vegas, but now has 1g and 3a in his last 4 games on his streak. I'd wager they get 45-50pts out of him this year.

In essence, I would hate watching Quinn regain his mojo elsewhere because he ends up not being to power through with Malenstyn and Lafferty as his soon to be linemates.
- QuinnFan

I remember for a minute, they were thinking about moving quinn to center a few years ago
he is an ok defender so perhaps bump mcleod to second line center with cozens and zucker flanking him and put quinn on the third line with greenway and the 19 year old pointless superstar

Dahlin got fined 5,000 Thousand for that slash last night
- Buff36

should spend a night in the press box with his bonehead plays recently

byram was never going to be a shut down d man
- homiedclown

That trade was a head scratcher from the beginning.

A puck moving LH d-man was not what this team needed.

Use him + whatever else to get your top 4RHD

That trade was a head scratcher from the beginning.

A puck moving LH d-man was not what this team needed.

Use him + whatever else to get your top 4RHD
- DirtyDan

Wonder if they double down and extend him, or realize you can't build around 3 similar LD and make a move.

That trade was a head scratcher from the beginning.

A puck moving LH d-man was not what this team needed.

Use him + whatever else to get your top 4RHD
- DirtyDan

Should have went after Andersson, when there was a inkling he was available.

Holtz never played well under Lindy and fell down the lineup. He's a talented player that was relegated to the 4th line on a mid team. He took a few games to get going, with 0 points in his first 6 games with Vegas, but now has 1g and 3a in his last 4 games on his streak. I'd wager they get 45-50pts out of him this year.

In essence, I would hate watching Quinn regain his mojo elsewhere because he ends up not being to power through with Malenstyn and Lafferty as his soon to be linemates.
- QuinnFan

Isn't it entirely on Quinn right now to get poop figured out?

He's been beyond woeful, and it's mystifying as to why.

Should have went after Andersson, when there was a inkling he was available.
- Buff36

I agree. Calgary barreling out the gates doesn't help but they've come down to earth the last few games. Maybe he becomes available again.

That trade was a head scratcher from the beginning.

A puck moving LH d-man was not what this team needed.

Use him + whatever else to get your top 4RHD
- DirtyDan

my guess is he was the best return for casey, a player adams had no desire to sign long term

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyx3xXYT4RY

Is anyone willing to argue that this core is good enough to win a Stanley Cup?

God knows i would settle for a 1st round sweep at this point but there is just not enough elite talent on this team to sniff a cup, and they don't play a tough enough defensive game to do it a different way. Not sure what we're doing here.

If they make the playoffs and get stomped, adams has another classic adams summer and we do this again next year

On the bottom 6 rebuild: Is the 4th line actually good, or is it just different, and actually worse...?
- kingcong39

I think McLeod was a good addition. The 4th line is take it or leave it. They are a complete scoring void

byram was never going to be a shut down d man
- homiedclown

Then adams targeted the wrong dman

Is anyone willing to argue that this core is good enough to win a Stanley Cup?

God knows i would settle for a 1st round sweep at this point but there is just not enough elite talent on this team to sniff a cup, and they don't play a tough enough defensive game to do it a different way. Not sure what we're doing here.

If they make the playoffs and get stomped, adams has another classic adams summer and we do this again next year
- Hank Balling

Is that really their goal?

All Terry wants at this point is to sell a few tickets and hopefully get beyond this playoff drought people keep bringing up.

Is anyone willing to argue that this core is good enough to win a Stanley Cup?

God knows i would settle for a 1st round sweep at this point but there is just not enough elite talent on this team to sniff a cup, and they don't play a tough enough defensive game to do it a different way. Not sure what we're doing here.

If they make the playoffs and get stomped, adams has another classic adams summer and we do this again next year
- Hank Balling

As bad as I want them to break the drought, is it possible that could be the worst case scenario for the franchise moving forward?

What's up with Cozens? Dude is averaging a minute more per game than last year with nothing to show for it.

What's up with Cozens? Dude is averaging a minute more per game than last year with nothing to show for it.
- BINGO!

he's only 23

Isn't it entirely on Quinn right now to get poop figured out?

He's been beyond woeful, and it's mystifying as to why.
- kingcong39

Nah, this is 100% on Adams .

Players and coaches take zero blame

Is anyone willing to argue that this core is good enough to win a Stanley Cup?

God knows i would settle for a 1st round sweep at this point but there is just not enough elite talent on this team to sniff a cup, and they don't play a tough enough defensive game to do it a different way. Not sure what we're doing here.

If they make the playoffs and get stomped, adams has another classic adams summer and we do this again next year
- Hank Balling

Strange thing : Sabres still the youngest team in the league. Seems a bit early to entirely give up.

This core is still very young.
Power and peterka are 2 of our better players so far and they are barely 21

Is anyone willing to argue that this core is good enough to win a Stanley Cup?

God knows i would settle for a 1st round sweep at this point but there is just not enough elite talent on this team to sniff a cup, and they don't play a tough enough defensive game to do it a different way. Not sure what we're doing here.

If they make the playoffs and get stomped, adams has another classic adams summer and we do this again next year
- Hank Balling

I don’t think they are cup winning, even if Quinn and cozens were playing as they should.

We all see this and have been talking about how another top 6 and top 4 are needed to get there.

At this point I’m open to moving most any of the middle 6 if it gets us either or both the the pieces we need.

IMO this team is playing well enough that a move to get a top 6 or top 4 could realistically get us into the playoffs

What's up with Cozens? Dude is averaging a minute more per game than last year with nothing to show for it.
- BINGO!

Snake bit. No confidence. Probably in his own head. Could use a couple nights off but the team cant afford it.

Strange thing : Sabres still the youngest team in the league. Seems a bit early to entirely give up.

This core is still very young.
Power and peterka are 2 of our better players so far and they are barely 21
- Boss34

Strange, because I heard right from ya boys mouth that being young isn't an excuse anymore

Which is it?

Strange thing : Sabres still the youngest team in the league. Seems a bit early to entirely give up.

This core is still very young.
Power and peterka are 2 of our better players so far and they are barely 21
- Boss34

Do you see playoff contending talent or cup contending talent?

Acknowledging that isn't giving up.

Peterka is about to turn 23, in a league where F's peak offensively around 23.

Strange thing : Sabres still the youngest team in the league. Seems a bit early to entirely give up.

This core is still very young.
Power and peterka are 2 of our better players so far and they are barely 21
- Boss34

Its his fault building a completely flawed roster. Isnt he in charge for how young the roster should be?

Noone with grit in the Top 6 (Maybe Tuch)
No 2C or competent 2nd line
3 LD that do exactly the same thing.
No good RD
Can anyone from the 4th line move down a line if need be?
Cozens UPL Sammy Dahlin all look like might be bad contracts.

The TO maplelaughs

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