Was an asinine trade. 5th year in the NHL, and we are hoping for a competent 3rd pair PP specialist.

For the 5th OA pick.
- flyer_nutter

Now if the Flyers pick a top rated defenseman at #6...he will be the next coming of Bobby Orr Howe!

.. at this point, the team should try anything to lift the curse.
- Hextall271

I'd rather believe the curse was put in place when the Flyers won the arbitration rights to Lindros...

Now if the Flyers pick a top rated defenseman at #6...he will be the next coming of Bobby Orr Howe!
- Glak18

They wouldn’t know a superstar unless it was gifted to them on a platter.

Since 2006 we have Claude Giroux, and Matvei Michkov.

To pretend that amateur/pro scouting isn’t a major problem is like saying the scum bags that continue to pillage money from this organization are somehow competent.

Drysdale was a mistake, hell for the injury history alone.

“Briere said that Bob Murray, who drafted Drysdale in Anaheim, spoke very highly of him on and off the ice.”

I'd rather believe the curse was put in place when the Flyers won the arbitration rights to Lindros...
- Glak18

The Arbitrator was actually the devil and we agreed to be cursed forever..

They wouldn’t know a superstar unless it was gifted to them on a platter.

Since 2006 we have Claude Giroux, and Matvei Michkov.

To pretend that amateur/pro scouting isn’t a major problem is like saying the scum bags that continue to pillage money from this organization are somehow competent.

Drysdale was a mistake, hell for the injury history alone.

“Briere said that Bob Murray, who drafted Drysdale in Anaheim, spoke very highly of him on and off the ice.”
- flyer_nutter

I personally agree that one of the biggest weakness of the Flyers organization is its scouting and eye for talent. The very few they have hit on have been purely luck. Throw enough poop against the wall bound to get some to stick.

This is about the time you start a meaningless debate on semantics...PASS.



Specific player outscored.........Not Sanheim, not Frost, Drysdale. So why is Drysdale being outscored?
- Glak18

Your lack of understanding simple stats doesn't make it a semantics argument. He discussed Drysdale simply because he was the topic of the thread when he entered.

Now if the Flyers pick a top rated defenseman at #6...he will be the next coming of Bobby Orr Howe!
- Glak18

until they decide to throw him under the bus

lets blame drysdale for getting scored on a lot 5 on 5 when Frost has 0 goals

They wouldn’t know a superstar unless it was gifted to them on a platter.

Since 2006 we have Claude Giroux, and Matvei Michkov.

To pretend that amateur/pro scouting isn’t a major problem is like saying the scum bags that continue to pillage money from this organization are somehow competent.

Drysdale was a mistake, hell for the injury history alone.

“Briere said that Bob Murray, who drafted Drysdale in Anaheim, spoke very highly of him on and off the ice.”
- flyer_nutter

They took a swing for the fence and it’s appears they missed. They have done enough bad crap but I don’t think I would kill them for this. Do you think they were going to get an established 1D for Cutter?

Funny that has Drysdale has hardcore supporters even though has been dog poope since he arrived. Outside of Zamula he is their worst dman. He is young but he look lost 90 percent of the time and has a low hockey IQ.

They took a swing for the fence and it’s appears they missed. They have done enough bad crap but I don’t think I would kill them for this. Do you think they were going to get an established 1D for Cutter?
- psuhockey

No but you need to get close to equal value. They made their own bed with Gauthier and put themselves in a bind. Too soon to give up on Drysdale but early signs are not encouraging.

Im so confused..... Why are our lines normal?

They took a swing for the fence and it’s appears they missed. They have done enough bad crap but I don’t think I would kill them for this. Do you think they were going to get an established 1D for Cutter?
- psuhockey

How did they take a swing for the fence? It appeared they found a trade partner and the GM and Coach all thought he was a future 1st paring dman. He has a lot to learn and needs to play, but at this point, if he ever becomes a Sanheim level player I think that is a win for this club. Right now he looks lost and is not playing well - full stop.

Im so confused..... Why are our lines normal?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

don't worry, that will change about 1:23 into the first period.

No but you need to get close to equal value. They made their own bed with Gauthier and put themselves in a bind. Too soon to give up on Drysdale but early signs are not encouraging.
- MJL

I agree but they took a shot at a player that was considered a possible 1D in his draft and had some injuries and struggles from being in the NHL too early. I would have been more worried if he had played all those seasons and still stunk. At least there was still a possible high outcome that doesn’t look that great now.

No specifically sighting you but I think fans over estimate trade returns. No one is giving away sure fire top level defense prospects or center prospects. They are too valuable in the cap world. The only guys available are ones with some warts’

Im so confused..... Why are our lines normal?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

just tactics to confuse boston.....they're terrified and don't know what to expect.

How did they take a swing for the fence? It appeared they found a trade partner and the GM and Coach all thought he was a future 1st paring dman. He has a lot to learn and needs to play but if he ever becomes a Sanheim level player I think that is a win for this club. Right now he looks lost and is not playing well - full stop.
- Flyfly

He was considered a possible 1D in his draft class and lost development time to injury and being rushed to play on a crap team. Teams are not willing to move prospects or young players until there is some doubt in their development.

They are way too valuable. Look at the trade returns for the past 5-6 years. How many top prospect and young players were moved?

I agree but they took a shot at a player that was considered a possible 1D in his draft and had some injuries and struggles from being in the NHL too early. I would have been more worried if he had played all those seasons and still stunk. At least there was still a possible high outcome that doesn’t look that great now.

No specifically sighting you but I think fans over estimate trade returns. No one is giving away sure fire top level defense prospects or center prospects. They are too valuable in the cap world. The only guys available are ones with some worts.
- psuhockey

Was Gauthier a sure fire top level prospect?

Was Gauthier a sure fire top level prospect?
- MJL

And he was moved because he refused to sign. It wasn’t that the Flyers were open to moving him. Their hand was forced.

He was considered a possible 1D in his draft class and lost development time to injury and being rushed to play on a crap team. Teams are not willing to move prospects or young players until there is some doubt in their development.

They are way too valuable. Look at the trade returns for the past 5-6 years. How many top prospect and young players were moved?
- psuhockey

I get he was considered at potential 1D in his draft year and injuries are part of the issue. Like I said - they need to keep playing the kid and hope he somehow figures it out. Every game I have seen the kid up close I am left with no impression that he will be a 3/4 dman on a decent team.

They have time to figure it out but he is a RFA in 2026-27 so hopefully he gets it together. Otherwise, that 5th overall pick is nothing more than another lost chance to get this team going in the right direction. If he is the same player as he is today I am not extending the kid.

I’m glad brink is back in the lineup. Now let him play for an extended period. Nothing to lose.
- Hextall271

Agreed, my fear is the first mistake he is stapled to the bench.

I personally agree that one of the biggest weakness of the Flyers organization is its scouting and eye for talent. The very few they have hit on have been purely luck. Throw enough poop against the wall bound to get some to stick.
- Glak18

Flyers have typically drafted ok. They have never hit the jackpot on guys outside of Michkov but they have developed good NHL talent such as Provorov, Sanheim, Konecny, Ghost, Farabee, York, Ersson, Lindblom, Coots ect. Brink, Foerster, Frost, Luchenko are still TBD. Not all picks become something. All teams have busts.

Flyers issue is that they have never been patient with guys. They are also drafting at a disadvantage due to many picks being middle of the pack or late. It is just harder to find great talent late in the drafts. Tanking is the easier way to get talent like Michkov.

Look at Tampa, the reality is they won the cup by sheer luck. They got Kucherov and Point in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I doubt they win with just Stamkos, Vas and Hedman. The Flyers have yet to strike gold like that. Tampa also had crazy depth too.

Biggest issue for the Flyers has been their action Bias. They have made poor UFA decisions and trade decisions. Good thing about Briere's tenure is that they havent really been dipping into Free Agency. You could argue they dont have the cap but lets be honest, if they wanted to, they could make the room like they have always done in the past. Briere has essentially sat back and let the current kids dictate whether the team will be successful or a failure and having them fail is a good thing. If they can continue to suck we can get another player with potential elite talent.

0 goals for cutter imagine if he was here oh boy!

Agreed, my fear is the first mistake he is stapled to the bench.

- Flyfly

I expect this, but it should never happen. Dear god, he can't get any kind of foot hold in the league if he isn't' given reps and is constantly juggled in and out..FFS

And he was moved because he refused to sign. It wasn’t that the Flyers were open to moving him. Their hand was forced.
- psuhockey

They forced their own hand. I think the issue is not that they didn't get a sure fire top D man. It's that right now it looks like they got a player who looks like a bust and doesn't appear to be effective at either ends of the ice.