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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Wednesday @ 10:36 PM ET
Jeremy Laura: Winnipeg rolls Wings 6-2, Detroit needs to make some changes
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Yesterday @ 12:14 AM ET
Lyon regressing to that AHL goalie he was for most of his years.....
At least the Wings clicked on 2 PPs..........
Looks like CBJ passed the Wings in pts..........
Maybe Detroit figures it out by Saturday when Buffalo comes to town..........

GeoffY
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Spaniard\\\'s Bay, NF
Joined: 02.23.2017

Yesterday @ 12:39 AM ET
Too much baggage on this team that doesn’t belong. And there are at least six pieces of luggage revolving around the turnstile that need to be removed.

#1 Lalonde is Blashill 2.0 plain and simple.
#2 Veleno is Riley Sheahan 2.0 and we know how his career turned out.
#3. Rassmusen is a total disappointment who requires a sticker on his forehead that reads THIS SIDE UP. The mere breeze from a passing player knocks him on his a$$. He works hard, but the talent just isn’t there.
# 4-5-6 Fischer, Watson and Holl have no business on this team and are AHL calibre on the best of nights.
Yzerman needs to make changes to this BAGGAGE DEPARTMENT soon, or else this team will be golfing by Thanksgiving…..metaphorically speaking.

The Defense is a mess and a learning work in progress, that’s a given for young kids. But, unfortunately there’s not a glimmer of a Lidstrom, Chelios, Raflaski, Fetisov or a Murphy among any of them. Tis still very early, but thus far the talent is painfully absent.

Even the anointed one Moritz Seider, couldn’t lace up these stars skates.
Don’t get me wrong, Seider isn’t in the baggage department. Seider is a good defensemen, but far from GREAT. Remember, he didn’t even place in the top fifteen in the league last season. There will never be another Lidstrom out of this present squad, for all you wishful thinkers out there. Seider’s achilles heel in his young career IMO is his skating. His foot speed isn’t blazing and at an even up race or half a stride behind, he gets out skated more often than not. His transition forward to backward and vice versa is either awkward or toe picking losing speed too often. I’ve seen it recur on numerous occasions.
Kyle Conner made Seider look bad blowing by him last night. And no different than McDavid, MacKinnon, Panarin, Makar, Matthews and any number of other stars that could make him look just as silly on any given night. Mo has a long long way to go to get the GREAT or STAR moniker.
His skating mobility needs to improve or else just like tonight, he’ll find himself impersonating a pylon much too often.

Time to roll up those sleeves Yzerman and try to fix this mess.
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Yesterday @ 2:23 AM ET
I've been saying it for a while that their defensive system is complete garbage. It's a system designed to fail and with how this roster is built, it makes it even worst. Last season they outscored a lot of their problems. They lost some offense in the off-season and now they can't do that most of the time anymore.

Yzerman needed to improve the defense in the off-season and he failed miserably. So they lost offense and their defense is worst. Unless Yzerman can pull off some trades and improve this defense, this is not a playoff team at all.

The team also lacks grit and toughness. They have some big guys but most are soft as butter. There is no identity to this team.

I expected them to be worst than last season and so far they haven't disappointed me. I'm sure some people will say "well it's only been 10 games" but all you have to do is really look at how they play, their system and the roster to see they are very flawed. That defense needs at least two very good top 4 defensemen for them to have any chance at the playoffs. Seider is the only top pair guy they have. Edvinsson could be fine on the 2nd pair with a solid RHD partner. The rest are bottom pairing guys.
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Yesterday @ 9:10 AM ET
I've been saying it for a while that their defensive system is complete garbage. It's a system designed to fail and with how this roster is built, it makes it even worst. Last season they outscored a lot of their problems. They lost some offense in the off-season and now they can't do that most of the time anymore.

Yzerman needed to improve the defense in the off-season and he failed miserably. So they lost offense and their defense is worst. Unless Yzerman can pull off some trades and improve this defense, this is not a playoff team at all.

The team also lacks grit and toughness. They have some big guys but most are soft as butter. There is no identity to this team.

I expected them to be worst than last season and so far they haven't disappointed me. I'm sure some people will say "well it's only been 10 games" but all you have to do is really look at how they play, their system and the roster to see they are very flawed. That defense needs at least two very good top 4 defensemen for them to have any chance at the playoffs. Seider is the only top pair guy they have. Edvinsson could be fine on the 2nd pair with a solid RHD partner. The rest are bottom pairing guys.

- dcz28


Give Yzerman a break. He used a 2nd to get rid of Walman. That opened up enough cap space to sign a guy like Tarasenko instead of just keeping someone like Sprong. But next year is promising...Tarasenko, Copp, Compher, Chiarot, Holl, Gustafsson all coming back for more. Nice use of $25M.
Sven22
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 12.24.2007

Yesterday @ 9:25 AM ET
The management of the defense in particular has been a train wreck.

I get the impression that there was some locker room drama regarding Walman, but whatever it was, they should have been adults and worked it out -- particularly in light of the fact that Walman seemed like he really wanted to stay and Ghost was pretty obviously going to walk.
DraftandDestroy
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.15.2016

Yesterday @ 9:52 AM ET
I assume the Wings are right where Yzerman and the rest of the Wings management is expecting them to be, in position for a prime lottery pick. I'm also sure Kane and Tarasenko will be flipped for picks and or assets at some point. There's still a lot of development and growth that needs to happen before the young guys are ready to truly compete for a Stanley Cup.
Goalie Dad
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 02.23.2021

Yesterday @ 10:16 AM ET
This team has no identity, no urgency and no fortitude. They easily could be 2-7-1. It looks as though they either have quit listening to coach Lalonde or they are not capable of playing his system, Im not sure which is more damning! A system that sees the Wings out shot every night and almost last in the league in shots allowed. The man to man defense is not working, they spend far too much time in their own zone defending consistently allowing their opponents time and room to cycle for extended periods of time. Other than Seider and Ericsson the best break out plays they have are icing or a tape to tape pass to their waiting opponents at center ice resulting in another minute of cycling in their d-zone. I dont see this team improving with Lalonde leading it, he cant even state what the identity of this team is. At the end of last season coach Lalonde stated the team defense needed to improve, they needed to get better exiting their d-zone and cut down on shots on goal. He stated that again before and after training camp. The penalty kill has been brutal in the first 10 games, they spent the two previous practices working on that, well the Jets ripped through those improvements scoring a goal and moving the puck around without any pressure. Its time for a change behind the bench, there are still 72 games to play. If Yzerman does not make a change soon the Wings will be out of the playoffs before Thanksgiving!
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Yesterday @ 10:24 AM ET
What a mess.
Year 5 into Yzermans rebuilding wilderness and the team has little to show for it.

Capped out team
Overpaid vets in free agency
Lack of superstar(s)
Bad/mediocre drafting beyond the first round
Revolving door of goaltending

Kenny 2.0!
bluelineenforcer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 10.21.2019

Yesterday @ 10:29 AM ET
WPG is by far the hottest team in hockey. They have rolled over every team they've played except for their first loss in game 9 against Toronto. Detroit is not in their league, nor were there any players, trades or coaches available this past off season that would have put them in their league. There was nothing that could have happened that would have put them in the same league as the top teams in their conference.

There is not a trade, signing, coach or call-up that is going to propel Detroit above NJ, FL, TB, NYR, etc. Ottawa, Buffalo and Colombus are all years ahead of Det in their rebuild and I think Det finishing ahead of them last year was a fluke. It's just not going to happen, and it never was going to happen. Their only chance is if they play way better in the games than they are on paper, which is exactly what they did towards the end of last season. It's not something that can sustain over the course of an entire season, so all along, their only chance was to have a few hot streaks and to get hot at the right time. I've stated repeatedly that there is no such thing as carrying momentum over from season-to-season and making the playoffs this year does not equal making progress.

The fact is, Det is still a solid 4 to 5 years away from having a competitive team. None of their goalie prospects are ready today, and only a handful of their draft picks since the rebuild started are playing in the NHL. They can't trade garbage veterans for good veterans. They can't trade garbage goalies for good goalies. If they trade prospects for mid-level veterans, they will be set back years and be a perpetual lottery team.

They need to make progress this year and by progress, I mean their young players should be getting better and taking on a bigger role. It doesn't matter if Kane, Copp, Compher, Tarsenko, their goalies or any of the older D make progress. The only thing that matters is that Raymond, Seider, Edvinsson, Berggren, Kasper and Johanson make progress. It matters that Larkin and DeBrincat be consistent. The only other thing that matters is their players in the A and SPHL make progress. If they aren't a player mentioned, and if they aren't in the minors, they don't matter. They are temps who have absolutely nothing to do with the future of this team.
DraftandDestroy
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.15.2016

Yesterday @ 10:30 AM ET
What a mess.
Year 5 into Yzermans rebuilding wilderness and the team has little to show for it.

Capped out team
Overpaid vets in free agency
Lack of superstar(s)
Bad/mediocre drafting beyond the first round (completely FALSE)
Revolving door of goaltending

Kenny 2.0!

- wingz4life

Need two bottom three finishes (painful) to try and get some elite talent. With the way the hockey scouting world has access to the entire globe these days the chances of finding another Datsyuk / Zetterberg combo late in the draft are pretty much slim and none.
DraftandDestroy
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.15.2016

Yesterday @ 11:11 AM ET
WPG is by far the hottest team in hockey. They have rolled over every team they've played except for their first loss in game 9 against Toronto. Detroit is not in their league, nor were there any players, trades or coaches available this past off season that would have put them in their league. There was nothing that could have happened that would have put them in the same league as the top teams in their conference.

There is not a trade, signing, coach or call-up that is going to propel Detroit above NJ, FL, TB, NYR, etc. Ottawa, Buffalo and Colombus are all years ahead of Det in their rebuild and I think Det finishing ahead of them last year was a fluke. It's just not going to happen, and it never was going to happen. Their only chance is if they play way better in the games than they are on paper, which is exactly what they did towards the end of last season. It's not something that can sustain over the course of an entire season, so all along, their only chance was to have a few hot streaks and to get hot at the right time. I've stated repeatedly that there is no such thing as carrying momentum over from season-to-season and making the playoffs this year does not equal making progress.

The fact is, Det is still a solid 4 to 5 years away from having a competitive team. None of their goalie prospects are ready today, and only a handful of their draft picks since the rebuild started are playing in the NHL. They can't trade garbage veterans for good veterans. They can't trade garbage goalies for good goalies. If they trade prospects for mid-level veterans, they will be set back years and be a perpetual lottery team.

They need to make progress this year and by progress, I mean their young players should be getting better and taking on a bigger role. It doesn't matter if Kane, Copp, Compher, Tarsenko, their goalies or any of the older D make progress. The only thing that matters is that Raymond, Seider, Edvinsson, Berggren, Kasper and Johanson make progress. It matters that Larkin and DeBrincat be consistent. The only other thing that matters is their players in the A and SPHL make progress. If they aren't a player mentioned, and if they aren't in the minors, they don't matter. They are temps who have absolutely nothing to do with the future of this team.

- bluelineenforcer

Yes, they are 4 or 5 years away if everything goes right, I don't know why people can't understand this? It's really the norm. Unless you're able to get lucky and draft elite talent. But there isn't a Crosby, Malkin, MacKinnon or McDavid in every draft.

Winnipeg drafted Mark Scheifele 12 or 13 years ago and they still haven't won anything. Despite having a good team now for the past couple years. I think they've only been past the first round once in his career?

New Jersey drafted Hischier 1st overall seven years ago, and Jack Hughes 1st overall five years ago and they still missed the playoffs last year. They've even had a 4th and 2nd overall pick since then as well. Neither are elite but very good players.

Ottawa took Brady Tkachuk seven years ago 4th overall and Stutzle & Sanderson 3rd and 5th overall five years ago and they're still building. Again, not elite talent but very good players.

It's like a ten year process if you're not lucky enough to get a McDavid, Crosby or MacKinnon. Just reality. Wings have had one top five pick, a 4th overall, in the past five years.
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Yesterday @ 11:12 AM ET
Need two bottom three finishes (painful) to try and get some elite talent. With the way the hockey scouting world has access to the entire globe these days the chances of finding another Datsyuk / Zetterberg combo late in the draft are pretty much slim and none.
- DraftandDestroy


What is false about their draft record. Any clown can find a player with a top 10 pick. Look beyond that and the Wings are a complete joke. Among the worst in the NHL.

Look at 2020. Raymond at 4. Then 11 other picks, including 5 in the top 70. All garbage. Nobody is saying you should be finding a superstar but there are useful NHL players like Peterka, Evangelista, or how about you hit on Brock Faber at #45.

Look at 2021. Edvinsson at 6. Trade up for Cossa. A center like Wyatt Johnson was sitting there. He played 5 minutes away in Windsor. Next round Dallas finds Stankoven. It's almost as if a Jim Nill team is good at drafting. Knies. Moser. A couple more 2021 guys already having an impact. But maybe Shai Buium turns into something.

Could go on and on. We've missed on nearly everything in the Yzerman era. I would fire the whole scouting team. Spare no one. Start over.


DraftandDestroy
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.15.2016

Yesterday @ 11:27 AM ET
What is false about their draft record. Any clown can find a player with a top 10 pick. Look beyond that and the Wings are a complete joke. Among the worst in the NHL.

Look at 2020. Raymond at 4. Then 11 other picks, including 5 in the top 70. All garbage. Nobody is saying you should be finding a superstar but there are useful NHL players like Peterka, Evangelista, or how about you hit on Brock Faber at #45.

Look at 2021. Edvinsson at 6. Trade up for Cossa. A center like Wyatt Johnson was sitting there. He played 5 minutes away in Windsor. Next round Dallas finds Stankoven. It's almost as if a Jim Nill team is good at drafting. Knies. Moser. A couple more 2021 guys already having an impact. But maybe Shai Buium turns into something.

Could go on and on. We've missed on nearly everything in the Yzerman era. I would fire the whole scouting team. Spare no one. Start over.

- HockeyBuzzed

What do you mean "we've", you're an Oilers fan? Clearly and alt account.

Not to mention your takes are hot garbage, Raymond at #4 in 2020 is second in that draft class for points, he was an excellent pick. Wallinder at #32 is also an excellent pick, he's a 22 year old 6'4" defenseman who's still developing. You have no idea what their plans were, which appears to be build a solid defensive core through the draft. There's three players who've played a hundred or more games from that draft beyond the 1st round...THREE!! Which means every team missed on those three "useful" players.

2021 is the same, they made a good pick for a big mobile defenseman who's still developing and then you're cherry picking a guy, Johnston, who fourteen teams passed on. Cossa, who's 21 years old, is still developing and having an awesome year in Grand Rapids.

Management clearly has a long term vision and a building process that isn't a millennial instant gratification model. They are building from the back out and they understand it's going to take some time. Unlike you! Your take is compete garbage because you have no idea what their plan is and it's so easy to cherry pick a draft.
DraftandDestroy
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.15.2016

Yesterday @ 11:39 AM ET
What is false about their draft record. Any clown can find a player with a top 10 pick. Look beyond that and the Wings are a complete joke. Among the worst in the NHL.

Look at 2020. Raymond at 4. Then 11 other picks, including 5 in the top 70. All garbage. Nobody is saying you should be finding a superstar but there are useful NHL players like Peterka, Evangelista, or how about you hit on Brock Faber at #45.

Look at 2021. Edvinsson at 6. Trade up for Cossa. A center like Wyatt Johnson was sitting there. He played 5 minutes away in Windsor. Next round Dallas finds Stankoven. It's almost as if a Jim Nill team is good at drafting. Knies. Moser. A couple more 2021 guys already having an impact. But maybe Shai Buium turns into something.

Could go on and on. We've missed on nearly everything in the Yzerman era. I would fire the whole scouting team. Spare no one. Start over.

- HockeyBuzzed

And just for the record, in the past five drafts from the 2nd round and beyond, the Yzerman era, the Wings have 26 NHL games played because they historically like to soak and develop their young players. The Dallas Stars have a grand total of 33 NHL games over that same timeframe.
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Yesterday @ 11:51 AM ET
What do you mean "we've", you're an Oilers fan? Clearly and alt account.

Not to mention your takes are hot garbage, Raymond at #4 in 2020 is second in that draft class for points, he was an excellent pick. Wallinder at #32 is also an excellent pick, he's a 22 year old 6'4" defenseman who's still developing. You have no idea what their plans were, which appears to be build a solid defensive core through the draft. There's three players who've played a hundred or more games from that draft beyond the 1st round...THREE!! Which means every team missed on those three "useful" players.

2021 is the same, they made a good pick for a big mobile defenseman who's still developing and then you're cherry picking a guy, Johnston, who fourteen teams passed on. Cossa, who's 21 years old, is still developing and having an awesome year in Grand Rapids.

Management clearly has a long term vision and a building process that isn't a millennial instant gratification model. They are building from the back out and they understand it's going to take some time. Unlike you! Your take is compete garbage because you have no idea what their plan is and it's so easy to cherry pick a draft.

- DraftandDestroy


I said nothing about mistakes on top 10 picks. Seider, Raymond, Edvinsson...all good building blocks. But after that were awful. But sure, 2021 may be too early to tell, especially if your definition of success is how many games are played to date. So go to 2019. Lots of NHLers after round 1. None for us. As for Dallas, they are a top contender because of strong drafting. Again, let's ignore top 10 picks. Look at their success:

Harley (18)
Johnson (23)
Oettinger (26th)
Robertson (39)
Stankoven (47)
Hintz (49)

They have many misses, like all teams do. But there are 6 very good players. But I see you like Wallinder. Hip, hip, hooray.



DraftandDestroy
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.15.2016

Yesterday @ 12:21 PM ET
I said nothing about mistakes on top 10 picks. Seider, Raymond, Edvinsson...all good building blocks. But after that were awful. But sure, 2021 may be too early to tell, especially if your definition of success is how many games are played to date. So go to 2019. Lots of NHLers after round 1. None for us. As for Dallas, they are a top contender because of strong drafting. Again, let's ignore top 10 picks. Look at their success:

Harley (18)
Johnson (23)
Oettinger (26th)
Robertson (39)
Stankoven (47)
Hintz (49)

They have many misses, like all teams do. But there are 6 very good players. But I see you like Wallinder. Hip, hip, hooray.

- HockeyBuzzed

Complete nonsense!!! Your opinion could be said of almost every team missing on players you're cherry picking as a good pick. All but two players in the 2nd round of the 2019 draft have less than 100 games played, after the Wings picked, and those two are just bit players in the league. Your definition of success is seemingly a guy who contributed nothing or minimal to their teams, and the other 29 teams also missed on them.

There aren't any huge misses from 2019 or 2020 beyond the second round that you can't find by other means. No team got a steal in either of those drafts the Wings missed on.

The Stars and Joe McDonnell, who was the Wings chief amateur scout before he went to Dallas with Nill in 2013, did have good drafts in 2017 and 2015 which is leading to their success. All taken before Yzerman got to Detroit. Not unlike how the Wings drafted in the early 2000's.
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Yesterday @ 12:34 PM ET
Oh and just to show how your 100 game benchmark for the 2020 draft class is a bit foolish.

Faber has only played 93 games. Top pair D.

Mason Lohrei is at 49 games. Solid d-man for Boston.

Will Cuylle is at 94 games. Another guy who played 5 minutes away in Windsor. Big winger. Second on NYR in points this year.

How about Joel Blomqvist who looks to be stealing the #1 job in Pittsburgh. Only 6 games. But I'd rather have him in my system than the junk we picked in 2020.

Sure was special to draft Kris Draper's son in round 7. What a proud moment. Why not take a flyer on Devon Levi?
DraftandDestroy
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.15.2016

Yesterday @ 1:22 PM ET
Oh and just to show how your 100 game benchmark for the 2020 draft class is a bit foolish.

Faber has only played 93 games. Top pair D.

Mason Lohrei is at 49 games. Solid d-man for Boston.

Will Cuylle is at 94 games. Another guy who played 5 minutes away in Windsor. Big winger. Second on NYR in points this year.

How about Joel Blomqvist who looks to be stealing the #1 job in Pittsburgh. Only 6 games. But I'd rather have him in my system than the junk we picked in 2020.

Sure was special to draft Kris Draper's son in round 7. What a proud moment. Why not take a flyer on Devon Levi?

- HockeyBuzzed

Faber and Wallinder are both 22 years old, how you can say they missed on Faber is beyond me as Wallinder just had his first year of professional hockey in North America last year in Grand Rapids, he's still developing and may yet turn out to be better than Faber. That's completely unknown yet. What's the hurry? We're rebuilding.

The Wings didn't have a chance to take Mason Lohrei, or more correctly, they chose Wallinder instead, whom they are still developing and may turn out to be a way better defenseman. Again, what's the hurry? Let that play out.

Will Cuylle, same story, they chose Wallinder instead and he's still developing. Clearly they have a mission to build defense out. He wasn't on their radar. You're just simply cherry picking him because he's played 94 games. Just because he's played doesn't mean he fit into their long term plans, Wallinder did.

Joel Blomqvist is no better than Cossa but the Wings aren't rushing him into the NHL to try and win for two aging stars. They have a plan to properly develop both Cossa and Trey Augustine.


DraftandDestroy
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.15.2016

Yesterday @ 1:32 PM ET
You know when Niklas Kronwall made his full-time NHL debut for the Wings? When he was 25 years old. Played 20 games as a 23 year old and 27 games as a 24 year old.

You know when Zetterberg made his NHL debut for the Wings, when he was 22. Lidstrom 21, Holmstrom 24, Anders Eriksson 22, Johan Franzen 24.

The point being is the Wings will let these Swedish guys soak for awhile until the deem them ready to step in.
optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

Yesterday @ 1:37 PM ET
Faber and Wallinder are both 22 years old, how you can say they missed on Faber is beyond me as Wallinder just had his first year of professional hockey in North America last year in Grand Rapids, he's still developing and may yet turn out to be better than Faber. That's completely unknown yet. What's the hurry? We're rebuilding.

The Wings didn't have a chance to take Mason Lohrei, or more correctly, they chose Wallinder instead, whom they are still developing and may turn out to be a way better defenseman. Again, what's the hurry? Let that play out.

Will Cuylle, same story, they chose Wallinder instead and he's still developing. Clearly they have a mission to build defense out. He wasn't on their radar. You're just simply cherry picking him because he's played 94 games. Just because he's played doesn't mean he fit into their long term plans, Wallinder did.

Joel Blomqvist is no better than Cossa but the Wings aren't rushing him into the NHL to try and win for two aging stars. They have a plan to properly develop both Cossa and Trey Augustine.

- DraftandDestroy



Holy poop? A rational, level headed and non emotional man that can actually use his brain cells ??????



Hey buddy I’m on the hate list with this group of “fans” because I have enjoyed and supported the rebuild. Glad to see folks like yourself around here.
Just a heads up Jeremy doesn’t like folks like us because we don’t do the “sky is falling” dramatics like the rest of the lot here - he usually makes new blogs the moment I enter the comment section.



Best of luck here dude….lots of butt hurt and miserable people here claiming to be fans
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Yesterday @ 2:02 PM ET
Faber and Wallinder are both 22 years old, how you can say they missed on Faber is beyond me as Wallinder just had his first year of professional hockey in North America last year in Grand Rapids, he's still developing and may yet turn out to be better than Faber. That's completely unknown yet. What's the hurry? We're rebuilding.

The Wings didn't have a chance to take Mason Lohrei, or more correctly, they chose Wallinder instead, whom they are still developing and may turn out to be a way better defenseman. Again, what's the hurry? Let that play out.

Will Cuylle, same story, they chose Wallinder instead and he's still developing. Clearly they have a mission to build defense out. He wasn't on their radar. You're just simply cherry picking him because he's played 94 games. Just because he's played doesn't mean he fit into their long term plans, Wallinder did.

Joel Blomqvist is no better than Cossa but the Wings aren't rushing him into the NHL to try and win for two aging stars. They have a plan to properly develop both Cossa and Trey Augustine.

- DraftandDestroy


Yawn. I love the focus on Wallinder. They also took Niederbach and Cross Hanas in round 2. Both before Lohrei, Cuylle. But OK. Let's just be patient and see if Wallinder develops into a better player than Faber. Sounds familiar. Like how Cholowski, Lindstrom, Saarijarvi just needed more time. And before them it was Jurco, Pulkkinen, Frk, Ouellet, and Sproul who just needed more time to marinate.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Yesterday @ 2:11 PM ET
I assume the Wings are right where Yzerman and the rest of the Wings management is expecting them to be, in position for a prime lottery pick. I'm also sure Kane and Tarasenko will be flipped for picks and or assets at some point. There's still a lot of development and growth that needs to happen before the young guys are ready to truly compete for a Stanley Cup.
- DraftandDestroy


Have you looked at the returns Kane and Tarasenko have gotten at the deadline with their no movement clauses? They will dictate where they go and Yzerman shouldn't expect much value for them at all.
optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

Yesterday @ 2:11 PM ET
You know when Niklas Kronwall made his full-time NHL debut for the Wings? When he was 25 years old. Played 20 games as a 23 year old and 27 games as a 24 year old.

You know when Zetterberg made his NHL debut for the Wings, when he was 22. Lidstrom 21, Holmstrom 24, Anders Eriksson 22, Johan Franzen 24.

The point being is the Wings will let these Swedish guys soak for awhile until the deem them ready to step in.

- DraftandDestroy


Absolute facts. Tim Thomas was like 32 when he showed up. Martin St Louis was 25. Nick Paul 24.
Rafalski at 26.
Marchessault, Verhaeghe, Binnington, Devon Toews, Vinny Desharnais, Stefan Noesen, Jonny Oduya, Howard (Wings goalie), Nick Jensen, Cam Talbot, Hakanpaa, Derek Ryan, Alex Burrows, Pat Maroon, Dale Weise, Marchment, Yanni Gourde, Michael Bunting, Mike Knuble, Jay Beagle, Zach Hyman, Giordano, Hasek, JT miller, Marchand, Brett Hull, Danny Briere, Blake wheeler, zuccarelo, Blake coleman, panarin, Bryan rust, John leclair, Brett burns, ray Whitney and of course Nik Lidstrom

optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

Yesterday @ 2:20 PM ET
Yawn. I love the focus on Wallinder. They also took Niederbach and Cross Hanas in round 2. Both before Lohrei, Cuylle. But OK. Let's just be patient and see if Wallinder develops into a better player than Faber. Sounds familiar. Like how Cholowski, Lindstrom, Saarijarvi just needed more time. And before them it was Jurco, Pulkkinen, Frk, Ouellet, and Sproul who just needed more time to marinate.
- HockeyBuzzed



if hockey stresses you out to the point you can’t enjoy it why are you paying attention to it???


Just a heads up hockey is a sport, a game. Its meant to be enjoyable.
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