Two games ago he was on a PPG pace. Not saying you, but now according to some, he’s back to being kind of meh, and a guy who can’t ascend to what his press clippings have said.

I knew backreading in this place would be a mistake. Shame on me.

- HawkintheD

It is getting a bit annoying. Posters think Bedard was single handedly going to lead this team as a teenager? With no legit top line players around him? TT on a playoff team is probably a 2nd line winger.

Put Bedard on the Wild between Kaprizov and Zuccarello and he's putting up 35-40g and 90 plus points at age 19.

Scott Powers
@ByScottPowers
Blackhawks lines in practice
Kurashev-Bedard-Donato
Hall-Foligno-Bertuzzi
Mikheyev-Richardinson-Teräväinen/Anderson
Maroon-Reichel-Smith

So now TT is a third liner.

It is a big concern. You need to generate offense from the backend, even if it doesn't result in the D getting points. Hawks were so dominant in the 2010s because their D could drive possession get pucks up ice and get the forwards working in the Ozone.

We are not generating anything from the backend. Ekblad and Montour missed over 40 games combined last year. Panthers still generated 170 pts from D. That was a defensive team too. Led league in GA.

Hawks a little over 100 from the D last year.
- bhawks2241

Do you expect Arty, KK, DelMaestro and Allen to eventually comprise our defense- oh Rinzell too.

I think as they mature that they would provide enough offense generation.

We will have a mobile defense even DelMaestro inclusive. I expect that they would be good not great offensive generator. Maybe include Kaiser too but with Kaiser he is the one if KD ever wants to get a specialist through draft or trade and I mean a superlative skilled offensive dman like Paradyk (example) from ‘23 draft. Enough toughness and mobile puck movers each solid both ways (some more skill than others in our top five dmen). I like Kaiser but I foresee KD wants a dependable top five mobile and toughness THEN he can go after a specialist

It is a big concern. You need to generate offense from the backend, even if it doesn't result in the D getting points. Hawks were so dominant in the 2010s because their D could drive possession get pucks up ice and get the forwards working in the Ozone.

We are not generating anything from the backend. Ekblad and Montour missed over 40 games combined last year. Panthers still generated 170 pts from D. That was a defensive team too. Led league in GA.

Hawks a little over 100 from the D last year.
- bhawks2241

It's kind of why I'm glad KFC went with who they thought was best at 2nd OA last year. Maybe Demidov ends up being the better player but if Levshunov is a #1 or #2 RHD it's hard to quibble.

If Vlasic's game keeps growing and rounding out, a top 4 of him Arty, KK and possibly Rinzel could be really good.

Scott Powers
@ByScottPowers
Blackhawks lines in practice
Kurashev-Bedard-Donato
Hall-Foligno-Bertuzzi
Mikheyev-Richardinson-Teräväinen/Anderson
Maroon-Reichel-Smith

So now TT is a third liner.
- LAHawk

Waddaya mean now?

That is weird. Not sure what buttons LR is trying to push here. Why not leave TT on the first line and move Donato up there since he's had a hot hand of late?

Waddaya mean now?

That is weird. Not sure what buttons LR is trying to push here. Why not leave TT on the first line and move Donato up there since he's had a hot hand of late?
- HawkintheD

Should of put a question mark after my remark.

I know LR does not have much to work with, but Foligno being a wing, now a center, Donato being a center now a wing, Kurashev also now back to wing, let alone line tweaks almost every game, and the fact you have 5 or 6 guys new to the team, no wonder there does not appear to be much chemistry..,

It is getting a bit annoying. Posters think Bedard was single handedly going to lead this team as a teenager? With no legit top line players around him? TT on a playoff team is probably a 2nd line winger.

Put Bedard on the Wild between Kaprizov and Zuccarello and he's putting up 35-40g and 90 plus points at age 19.
- bhawks2241

I don't thinks it's unreasonable to expect that Bedard would be leading the group offensively. That's been a pretty solid expectations from the organization, media, etc.. The coach plays him as 1C 20 minutes a night, deploys him offensively and gives him the prime PP minutes. This is the general expectation.

The point of what I was posting is just that it would be nice to get him on a roll because the idea was sold that we added more players to help him. The critique was made many times last year that the wingers were holding him back and while I'm not saying there isn't some truth to it, this season, his production is basically the same so far.

Guys being first line or second line of a playoff team is pretty much splitting hairs, as it comes down to more about chemistry and guys fitting into roles on the line. I don't think they found the right fit for the top 6 yet that clicks.

You can speculate that Bedard would score some lofty total, but it's just speculation until it actually happens. This reminds me of the NYR of the past when they'd just try to bring in star players and assume it would just work out.

Lotta chatter around the internets grading out the organIzation/players after the 10 game mark. Firstly, I'll say they are 1 yr and 10 games from a total tear down. You gotta give any evaluations with that context.

To me it could be seen in the 1st preseason game this was a different club from last yr. With the influx of veteran NHL players, 2nd or 3rd oldest club, the positioning, structure and maturity was much greater than last yrs really low bar. Nearly all the fancies support that.

Simply said this club is doing the blocking, tackling and hitting the cutoff man that is the foundation of consistency. I mentioned a couple games back the club is becoming connected and that is a direct result of doing the proper tackling and blocking (positioning and structure).... To me that was really on display v COL and SJ.

The proper tackling and blocking (structure and proper positioning) has them getting out of their zone much quicker, which allows for speed thru the neutral zone which is a key element to being dangerous. Connected.

To me I'm watching the/a process and it looks like it will become consistent.

Which brings us to the worst win% thru 10 games and back to the process which I'd see repeated every yr in jrs as the turnover is high. When I watch a jrs goalie whether or not he saves a puck is almost irrelevant. To cut it short I'd see a kid who looks fantastic digging 6-7 pucks out of the net. Kid was skating well, in balance, good reads, square to everything showing an excellent foundation (blocking and tackling). If he had the skill/ability in him the next step of the/a process he would start stopping pucks and doing so regularly. And in that process (blocking and tackling) stopping pucks (winning games for a team) was last!!

To my eye the tackling and blocking is being accomplished and wins will follow. But I'm not as concerned with wins and losses (a jrs goalie stopping pucks) as I am the process, and I really like what I see.

It's kind of why I'm glad KFC went with who they thought was best at 2nd OA last year. Maybe Demidov ends up being the better player but if Levshunov is a #1 or #2 RHD it's hard to quibble.

If Vlasic's game keeps growing and rounding out, a top 4 of him Arty, KK and possibly Rinzel could be really good.
- HawkintheD

I think the Hawks made the right pick at #2. You just have to take the RS Dman with size that is mobile and shows offensive traits. NHL people can't pass up a player that profiles like a Doughty.

I'm as big a Demidov guy as there is but a top 10 winger in the league doesn't bring the value that a top 10 Dman or top 10 centerman does. There are not many Dmen like that so if they get a chance at one NHL types jump at it 99 times out of 100 and to get one it's probably gonna lake a top 5 or 3 pick.

BM posted this last blog. An old school page laid out like our sports section was. Absolutely love this, thanks BM. https://www.hockeydb.com/scoreboard/

You just gotta love Torts!!

https://www.msn.com/en-us...4bdbc38c2c9badb80ac6&ei=6

The Philadelphia Flyers were missing a familiar face during Thursday's 2-1 victory over the St. Louis Blues. Flyers fans were caught off guard before the game when the team announced that rookie forward Matvei Michkov would be a healthy scratch.

After the win, head coach John Tortorella explained his decision.

"(Michkov is) totally not concentrated on certain parts of the game," Tortorella told reporters, per Flyers insider Jamey Baskow. "If I see other guys going, then he's going to sit and watch a bit. That's all that was."


Now, the best part!!

The NHL has announced that Michkov is the "Rookie of the Month" for October. The former 2023 first-round selection suited up in 11 games last month, scoring four goals and adding five assists while his nine points are tied for the most among rookies.

I think the Hawks made the right pick at #2. You just have to take the RS Dman with size that is mobile and shows offensive traits. NHL people can't pass up a player that profiles like a Doughty.

I'm as big a Demidov guy as there is but a top 10 winger in the league doesn't bring the value that a top 10 Dman or top 10 centerman does. There are not many Dmen like that so if they get a chance at one NHL types jump at it 99 times out of 100 and to get one it's probably gonna lake a top 5 or 3 pick.
- Mr Ricochet

Would you agree that the turnover rate on the Blackhawks roster after two more seasons after this current campaign, will be at least 50%. KD is going to re-make the roster with mostly his draft choices. The lineup will feature what KD wants: speed, aggressive puck pursuit and tenacity challenging all over the ice. Skill yes but predicated upon speed and mobility among the blueline too. Have to skate at least average or above average. I think a DelMaestro can make this roster but due to the emphasis on mobility and despite his other qualities, I do not see him becoming more than a third pair. Maybe with experience he could slot as a second pair but certainly not right away

They already have too many Marner's on the team. Just look at that shift in the third with Bedard, Kurashev, TT playing ring a round the rosy for 45 seconds and they get a wrist shot from the blue line as a result. Would of gotten a 10 for Synchronized Skating.
- LAHawk

Which guys do they have who consistently score 90 points and get Selke votes?

I’m not saying I’m a Mariner guy, however Marner puts up 90-100 points every year. I love TT, but he’s not putting up those numbers. Marner will get paid, hope it’s not by the Hawks unless it’s $8M/7 years, which it will not be.
- Angotti

And get Selke votes for all the defense first folks out there.

so far this year the Hawks are 23rd in Attendance as a % of capacity

https://www.hockey-refere...e.com/friv/attendance.cgi
- LAHawk

Patient enough fan base to not show up until they don't suck again .

Not saying he is playing bad but would be good to get Bedard on a roll a bit here.

Last year 68 games he was
22G 39A 61P

He is on a 68 games pace of
19G 37A and 56P

It's a pretty similar pace but the belief was adding more wingers with some skill and him maturing a year would help him push that production. Hopefully with some adjustments he can get going just that bit more to help push the offense.

His 82 game pace right now
22G 45A 67P
- breadbag

Sophomore slump and he's probably not gonna shoot 8% the rest of the year. He'll go on a few heaters.

It is a big concern. You need to generate offense from the backend, even if it doesn't result in the D getting points. Hawks were so dominant in the 2010s because their D could drive possession get pucks up ice and get the forwards working in the Ozone.

We are not generating anything from the backend. Ekblad and Montour missed over 40 games combined last year. Panthers still generated 170 pts from D. That was a defensive team too. Led league in GA.

Hawks a little over 100 from the D last year.
- bhawks2241

Probably not gonna get that from the group the Hawks have. Hopefully Levshunov and Korchinski don't suck.

Scott Powers
@ByScottPowers
Blackhawks lines in practice
Kurashev-Bedard-Donato
Hall-Foligno-Bertuzzi
Mikheyev-Richardinson-Teräväinen/Anderson
Maroon-Reichel-Smith

So now TT is a third liner.
- LAHawk

Lol Bedard is going to play with 2/3 most brain dead forwards on the team.

Donato has been producing but his hockey sense is very very bad. And Kurashev lol.

Should be Bertuzzi, Bedard and TT or Hall Bedard and TT and just let who the best players should be figure it out for (frank)s sake.

Which guys do they have who consistently score 90 points and get Selke votes?
- fattybeef

Doesn't matter if you cannot win with him in playoffs. I would rather use a hard working less skill guy as long as he can skate, than a TOO soft Marner.That is how I would want to see a roster - no softies, at least compete physically to some extent. I know superstars get a pass but not Marner on my team. I would not tolerate him and I would be all over him as a teamatte irregardless if that is not acceptable behavior. Go play with the ladies Marner

Well. They’re not hanging around here.
- Angotti

I'm patient, I got lots of patience. What do you mean I'm not patient. Now I need my meds.

Probably not gonna get that from the group the Hawks have. Hopefully Levshunov and Korchinski don't suck.
- fattybeef

Rinzel if he keeps up his current trajectory. Really only need 2. 3 that can generate would be a luxury.

Nazar with an early goal. 1-0

I don't thinks it's unreasonable to expect that Bedard would be leading the group offensively. That's been a pretty solid expectations from the organization, media, etc.. The coach plays him as 1C 20 minutes a night, deploys him offensively and gives him the prime PP minutes. This is the general expectation.

The point of what I was posting is just that it would be nice to get him on a roll because the idea was sold that we added more players to help him. The critique was made many times last year that the wingers were holding him back and while I'm not saying there isn't some truth to it, this season, his production is basically the same so far.

Guys being first line or second line of a playoff team is pretty much splitting hairs, as it comes down to more about chemistry and guys fitting into roles on the line. I don't think they found the right fit for the top 6 yet that clicks.

You can speculate that Bedard would score some lofty total, but it's just speculation until it actually happens. This reminds me of the NYR of the past when they'd just try to bring in star players and assume it would just work out.
- breadbag

I agree he should be and I expect him too as the season progresses.

I don’t think it’s too speculative to believe Bedard would put up big numbers with other really talented wingers. TT is a 60-65 point wing. That’s not even top 50 in pts last year. TT is a good NHL player. Let’s not make it seem like the Hawks went out and got another star for Bedard to skate with.

Definitely takes time to build chemistry too.

It is getting a bit annoying. Posters think Bedard was single handedly going to lead this team as a teenager? With no legit top line players around him? TT on a playoff team is probably a 2nd line winger.

Put Bedard on the Wild between Kaprizov and Zuccarello and he's putting up 35-40g and 90 plus points at age 19.
- bhawks2241

Nazar with an early goal. 1-0
- rickboardman

Gavin Hayes PPG. 2-0 Levshunov #1 PP QB.