Fido kinda beat him to it though, he already started annoyingly posting tankathon results lololll
- Pat1993

well, spinning the wheel is much funnier than watching them play lol

you think they'll keep the coach?
- fidopro

I doubt they'd fire him this year, it isn't like they were a playoff-bound team to begin with, but I'm expecting they're gonna have a talk with him and discuss what kind of approach needs to be taken moving forward.

and there's always the question of who you'd hire to replace him, personally I'd rather keep Pascal Vincent in Laval since he's been doing a great job there.

well, spinning the wheel is much funnier than watching them play lol
- fidopro

I doubt they'd fire him this year, it isn't like they were a playoff-bound team to begin with, but I'm expecting they're gonna have a talk with him and discuss what kind of approach needs to be taken moving forward.

and there's always the question of who you'd hire to replace him, personally I'd rather keep Pascal Vincent in Laval since he's been doing a great job there.
- Pat1993

everyone knew they were not a playoffs team. but not showing up? not progressing? not putting in the effort?
what kind of culture is that? you want your kids to learn in that environment?
they have to think what's best for the team, not for the coach.

you think they'll keep the coach?
- fidopro

They are all buddies, so I think they will.

The problem is that some guys need to leave right now, but it can't really happen.

Dvorak, Armia...

I have nothing against Jake Evans, but you can't play him as a 2nd line center. Just use Dach there and live or die with him. I don't have expectations for him until after Christmas, because of the time he missed. If you think he's your guy going forward, why is he playing wing?

They also need a 4th line worthy of that name. They are soft as poop. They need poop disturbers up front. Guys who will forecheck using their shoulders, not the tip of their sticks (code).

The captain should lead by example, and he's not right now.

So many things going badly this year, it started with an horrible training camp.

Lone bright spots are Gallagher who looks like the Gallagher of old, and Lane Hutson, but I'm afraid he will be completely burned out by January.

everyone knew they were not a playoffs team. but not showing up? not progressing? not putting in the effort?
what kind of culture is that? you want your kids to learn in that environment?
they have to think what's best for the team, not for the coach.
- fidopro

oh absolutely, but as much as you dislike MSL I doubt all of the team's current struggles are due to poor coaching...

I would like to see the players be more aggressive as well in the way they approach a hockey game and respond to adversity but again, with a lack of experience often comes a certain fragility with a team's confidence in general, I don't think there are that many lazy passengers in this lineup.

They are all buddies, so I think they will.

The problem is that some guys need to leave right now, but it can't really happen.

Dvorak, Armia...

I have nothing against Jake Evans, but you can't play him as a 2nd line center. Just use Dach there and live or die with him. I don't have expectations for him until after Christmas, because of the time he missed. If you think he's your guy going forward, why is he playing wing?

They also need a 4th line worthy of that name. They are soft as poop. They need poop disturbers up front. Guys who will forecheck using their shoulders, not the tip of their sticks (code).

The captain should lead by example, and he's not right now.

So many things going badly this year, it started with an horrible training camp.

Lone bright spots are Gallagher who looks like the Gallagher of old, and Lane Hutson, but I'm afraid he will be completely burned out by January.
- stinger67

yeah people need to remember St-Louis was name by the current regime

They are all buddies, so I think they will.

The problem is that some guys need to leave right now, but it can't really happen.

Dvorak, Armia...

I have nothing against Jake Evans, but you can't play him as a 2nd line center. Just use Dach there and live or die with him. I don't have expectations for him until after Christmas, because of the time he missed. If you think he's your guy going forward, why is he playing wing?

They also need a 4th line worthy of that name. They are soft as poop. They need poop disturbers up front. Guys who will forecheck using their shoulders, not the tip of their sticks (code).

The captain should lead by example, and he's not right now.

So many things going badly this year, it started with an horrible training camp.

Lone bright spots are Gallagher who looks like the Gallagher of old, and Lane Hutson, but I'm afraid he will be completely burned out by January.
- stinger67

pretty fair assesment.
I would add that Dvorak and Armia while they should be gone, are not the problem. this team lacks character and leadership. big time. that is not on Dvorak and Armia.
I won't talk about the coach, pretty sure everyone knows my opinion lol

pretty fair assesment.
I would add thtat Dvorak and Armia while they should be gone, are not the problem. this team lacks character and leadership. big time. that is not on Dvorak and Armia.
I won't talk about the coach, pretty sure everyone knows my opinion lol
- fidopro

My problem with Armia and Dvorak is that they are completely useless and only fill jerseys right now.

Addition by substraction

They are all buddies, so I think they will.

The problem is that some guys need to leave right now, but it can't really happen.

Dvorak, Armia...

I have nothing against Jake Evans, but you can't play him as a 2nd line center. Just use Dach there and live or die with him. I don't have expectations for him until after Christmas, because of the time he missed. If you think he's your guy going forward, why is he playing wing?

They also need a 4th line worthy of that name. They are soft as poop. They need poop disturbers up front. Guys who will forecheck using their shoulders, not the tip of their sticks (code).

The captain should lead by example, and he's not right now.

So many things going badly this year, it started with an horrible training camp.

Lone bright spots are Gallagher who looks like the Gallagher of old, and Lane Hutson, but I'm afraid he will be completely burned out by January.
- stinger67

yeah, I really wish Dach could return to how he was playing before his injury, ASAP, he looked like a more confident player... fans are getting impatient, which is understandable, but with all that time being out of the game it's gotta be hard to get back into it at the same level.

yeah people need to remember St-Louis was name by the current regime
- deadpoulet

not acknowledging an error is an even worse error. the guy is drowning before our eyes.
either you give him help (we've been saying this since day 1 btw), either you replace him. keep him as player development and PP coach if you want, but the current situation can not last a full season.

yeah people need to remember St-Louis was name by the current regime
- deadpoulet

yup, but I really doubt he has complete immunity from being fired, as some claim. I don't think MSL has lost the room yet but if that happens you can't keep a guy there just because he's the one you hired initially.

Ce gars là est ben trop buddy buddy avec ses joueurs, pas possible

not acknowledging an error is an even worse error. the guy is drowning before our eyes.
either you give him help (we've been saying this since day 1 btw), either you replace him. keep him as player development and PP coach if you want, but the current situation can not last a full season.
- fidopro

Bob Gainey: hiring Carbonneau as coach was my best move ever as GM.


Bob Gainey, a week later: yeah, we had to move on...

Ce gars là est ben trop buddy buddy avec ses joueurs, pas possible
- stinger67

je serais curieux de l'entendre parler à ses joueurs en privé, pas sûr qu'il est tout le temps en train de les cajoler non plus...

Bob Gainey: hiring Carbonneau as coach was my best move ever as GM.


Bob Gainey, a week later: yeah, we had to move on...
- Pat1993

exactly.

je serais curieux de l'entendre parler à ses joueurs en privé, pas sûr qu'il est tout le temps en train de les cajoler non plus...
- Pat1993

Jacques Demers est l'example ultime d'un "player's coach" à mon avis, pis il se gênait pas pour les brasser durant les points de presse quand les gars se présentaient pas.

Jacques Demers est l'example ultime d'un "player's coach" à mon avis, pis il se gênait pas pour les brasser durant les points de presse quand les gars se présentaient pas.
- stinger67

ouin, je comprends, mais personellement je m'en fou pas mal de ce qu'il dit aux médias, il devrait pas avoir besoin de jeter les joueurs en dessous de l'autobus devant les journalistes pour passer un message.

surtout pour un marché comme Montréal, où tous les moindres faits et gestes sont scrutés à la loupe et sur-analysés, ça devient vite une distraction.

ouin, je comprends, mais personellement je m'en fou pas mal de ce qu'il dit aux médias, il devrait pas avoir besoin de jeter les joueurs en dessous de l'autobus devant les journalistes pour passer un message.

surtout pour un marché comme Montréal, où tous les moindres faits et gestes sont scrutés à la loupe et sur-analysés, ça devient vite une distraction.
- Pat1993

daccord avec toi, mais de toute évidence le message passe pas!

daccord avec toi, mais de toute évidence le message passe pas!
- fidopro

ouin, ça pas l'air facile, non.... lol

3-2-4-5-4

3-2-4-5-4
- fidopro

you should do it until you get the first overall at least once...

you should do it until you get the first overall at least once...
- Pat1993

give them some time, they'll have better odds of winning it.

so at BUF Monday, and at MINN Thursday.
that should go well

give them some time, they'll have better odds of winning it.
- fidopro

criss que t'es décourageant...