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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Yesterday @ 12:13 AM ET
Here’s a kid, a 5’10, 180lb 15 year old defenseman who’s better than a point a game in the WHL. He’s not draft eligible until 2027.

https://youtu.be/DWdYLGoPXVA?si=ZjCfoBU0V1Qy3ZEG
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Yesterday @ 6:48 AM ET
3-2-2-3-3
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Yesterday @ 8:53 AM ET
Here’s a kid, a 5’10, 180lb 15 year old defenseman who’s better than a point a game in the WHL. He’s not draft eligible until 2027.

https://youtu.be/DWdYLGoPXVA?si=ZjCfoBU0V1Qy3ZEG

- paulr


Is it Landon DuPont or however you spell his name?

Edit: after opening the link it is! 3 years away from NHL draft eligible?

Hopefully the Hocks will be picking in the late 20s or last when he is going to be drafted
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Yesterday @ 8:53 AM ET
Here’s a kid, a 5’10, 180lb 15 year old defenseman who’s better than a point a game in the WHL. He’s not draft eligible until 2027.

https://youtu.be/DWdYLGoPXVA?si=ZjCfoBU0V1Qy3ZEG

- paulr


Any relation to Jerome? Also, he’s a Smurf.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Yesterday @ 9:07 AM ET
9. Might Bedard have a consistent linemate for the next few years in Tyler Bertuzzi? They weren’t sensational together early on, but they’ve figured it out lately. In five-on-five play together, they have a 47.86 Corsi percentage, 45.37 expected goals percentage and a 50.0 actual goals percentage, according to Natural Stat Trick. The fact they’ve been on the ice for 10 goals for and 10 goals against is a positive sign. As good as Philipp Kurashev and Bedard looked together last season, the Blackhawks were outscored 52-28 with them on the ice together last season. Bertuzzi and Bedard seem to be building something. - Powers
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Yesterday @ 11:45 AM ET
Mrazek starts his second in a row (keeping with AS's statement that he will go with the hot hand).

Indeed Kurashev in at 4C and Reichel sitting. Everything else the same.

If I'm Reichel, I don't take my eyes off of 86 for the entire game. He's got a lot of the same features/skills, but Teuvo just knows how/when to pick his spots and get to the middle to be dangerous.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Yesterday @ 11:48 AM ET
9. Might Bedard have a consistent linemate for the next few years in Tyler Bertuzzi? They weren’t sensational together early on, but they’ve figured it out lately. In five-on-five play together, they have a 47.86 Corsi percentage, 45.37 expected goals percentage and a 50.0 actual goals percentage, according to Natural Stat Trick. The fact they’ve been on the ice for 10 goals for and 10 goals against is a positive sign. As good as Philipp Kurashev and Bedard looked together last season, the Blackhawks were outscored 52-28 with them on the ice together last season. Bertuzzi and Bedard seem to be building something. - Powers
- HawkintheD


I think it's possible, but I don't know about a few years, just because Bertuzzi is a bit streaky in general. When he starts to cool down, the coach may just change things up to put whoever is the "hot hand" with Bedard. I'm not talking about a line blender, but in general with us lacking overall offense, it tends to be that whomever is "going" right now ends up with Bedard, if his line is stagnating.

I think some of it is Mikheyev, while not offensively a big producer, he has been pretty effective on the defensive side of the puck. That helps the goal differential with him being overall effective at not getting scored on 5v5 so far. He is the one Hawk with a 50% GF/GA ratio while on the ice, everyone else on the team is below 50%. Anyway, it would be good to find a good long term fit for playing with Bedard, maybe Bertuzzi will stick in that spot, it's working decently well right now. It's a bit like Zach Hyman and Connor McDavid, go to the net and the skilled guys will find you with goals you pretty much can't miss.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Yesterday @ 12:01 PM ET
Just listening to : the hockey prospects podcast on spotify with Cam Robinson and Chris Peters.

They mentioned that Hagens doesn't look like a true #1.
Doesn't have great feet,and could see him anywhere from 1-4.
Some GMs said that despite Martone not play much in the wjc, it didn't hurt his stock. Teams are more interested in his club play,basically still being a top 4 pick.

Everything I'm hearing so far is that this years draft might not have a single prospect that is NHL ready next season.
Wonder if the Hocks might look into trading the pick? Especially if they wanna get better quicker.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Yesterday @ 12:02 PM ET
Mrazek starts his second in a row (keeping with AS's statement that he will go with the hot hand).

Indeed Kurashev in at 4C and Reichel sitting. Everything else the same.

If I'm Reichel, I don't take my eyes off of 86 for the entire game. He's got a lot of the same features/skills, but Teuvo just knows how/when to pick his spots and get to the middle to be dangerous.

- Chunk


Turbo is a smart one to watch for sure. He knows where to be most the time on both sides of the puck.

I know they want Reichel to shoot more, but all in all his offensive production per 60 minutes at 5v5 ain't terrible. He has a better points per 60 than Betuzzi, Nazar, Teravinen at 5v5. Per minute of 5v5 time he gets just as many shots on net as Bedard, Hall, Teravinen per 60 minutes. I know his line isn't focused as much for the oppositions "top guys" but what he has accomplished in limited minutes isn't a negative. He hasn't been scored against at 5v5 much either.

I do think he has taken some small steps in the right direction, but those steps have to continue and build into more, or he will just be what he is and won't find a role in the NHL.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Yesterday @ 12:24 PM ET
Turbo is a smart one to watch for sure. He knows where to be most the time on both sides of the puck.

I know they want Reichel to shoot more, but all in all his offensive production per 60 minutes at 5v5 ain't terrible. He has a better points per 60 than Betuzzi, Nazar, Teravinen at 5v5. Per minute of 5v5 time he gets just as many shots on net as Bedard, Hall, Teravinen per 60 minutes. I know his line isn't focused as much for the oppositions "top guys" but what he has accomplished in limited minutes isn't a negative. He hasn't been scored against at 5v5 much either.

I do think he has taken some small steps in the right direction, but those steps have to continue and build into more, or he will just be what he is and won't find a role in the NHL.

- breadbag


Yeah, the numbers aren't brutal for him, but I think it's telling that both coaches have said that his biggest issue is that he plays too much on the perimeter and doesn't shoot enough/passes up opportunities. This has gone on for two years now.

I think one of his biggest issues is that he's either not strong enough, or confident enough to engage in contact and keep the puck. It's a shame since he has some good qualities, and it sounds like most people (even here) want him to succeed. At some point, he's got to take it on himself to do what is necessary.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Yesterday @ 1:57 PM ET
Mully and Haugh mentioned a Fishbain tweet that pointed out Pete Carroll has 10 playoff wins in Seattle, the Bears have 10 playoff wins in the last 60 yrs!!!

The Halas/McCaskey ownership prowess....
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Yesterday @ 2:01 PM ET
Mully and Haugh mentioned a Fishbain tweet that pointed out Pete Carroll has 10 playoff wins in Seattle, the Bears have 10 playoff wins in the last 60 yrs!!!

The Halas/McCaskey ownership prowess....

- Mr Ricochet



I'm so glad I stopped watching their games a loong time ago...I still keep an ear open and read things +youtube here and there...but not watching week to week , year after year has been great!
I missed the double doink,and just saw the highlight the day after and laughed!

Lotta clown organizations in the great city of Chicago...unfortunately
ChiFans deserve better
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Yesterday @ 2:46 PM ET
Just listening to : the hockey prospects podcast on spotify with Cam Robinson and Chris Peters.

They mentioned that Hagens doesn't look like a true #1.
Doesn't have great feet,and could see him anywhere from 1-4.
Some GMs said that despite Martone not play much in the wjc, it didn't hurt his stock. Teams are more interested in his club play,basically still being a top 4 pick.

Everything I'm hearing so far is that this years draft might not have a single prospect that is NHL ready next season.
Wonder if the Hocks might look into trading the pick? Especially if they wanna get better quicker.

- captainserious

Very very few 18 year olds are ready for the NHL. Unfortunately teams bring them up from a business perspective rather than from a hockey perspective. Like any trade if you make the team better you make it. If the player you’re trading for is better or better suited to your team you trade. You don’t trade to get better more quickly.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Yesterday @ 2:55 PM ET
Very very few 18 year olds are ready for the NHL. Unfortunately teams bring them up from a business perspective rather than from a hockey perspective. Like any trade if you make the team better you make it. If the player you’re trading for is better or better suited to your team you trade. You don’t trade to get better more quickly.
- paulr

Part of the problem is they aren't eligible for the "A."
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Yesterday @ 3:03 PM ET
Part of the problem is they aren't eligible for the "A."
- rpeters01

Not really. KK wasn’t ready for pro hockey at any level. Yet he got promoted did ok and then gets demoted this season. I think he would have been better off if junior getting bigger stronger and learning to play defensively which he’s still pretty weak at. Same applies to Kirby Dach. And it wouldn’t have hurt Bedard to stay in junior another season.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Yesterday @ 7:03 PM ET
6:00 start tonight.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Yesterday @ 7:26 PM ET
Vlasic has been fighting it the last few games.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Yesterday @ 7:27 PM ET
How's the group look when they come thru the neutral zone with speed?...... Bedard look comfortable.

Yo Chunk, you see Crevier on the 1st unit PK with Vlasic?? ...... I'll stop with yo-in you about Crevier so as not sound like a goof, Chunk. Just this last time.

Remember when you're watching him move, he's 6ft 7in.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Yesterday @ 7:34 PM ET
I tell you Sorensen appears to have unlocked Bedard. Even though we are giving up more points a game, kind like the offensive aggressiveness.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Yesterday @ 7:38 PM ET
Vlasic has been fighting it the last few games.
- Chunk


Anyone skating with Brodie has been fighting it.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Yesterday @ 7:42 PM ET
I tell you Sorensen appears to have unlocked Bedard. Even though we are giving up more points a game, kind like the offensive aggressiveness.
- BetweenTheDots


At some point do we reach a board consensus that Bedard is a better passer/play maker than goal scorer? Even though he’s got a wicked shot.

Paulr said he’s Gretzky like seeing the game. Kinda makes sense. That pass to Donato was niceeee

totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

Yesterday @ 7:46 PM ET
Pretty stellar pass from Bedard on the goal.

Mikheyev seems to be in the right place a lot of the time.

Jones seems good the last 2 games.

Kurashev is moving well but hasn't gotten anything yet.

Kane, Debrincat, Holl, and Magic Gus out for the DET goal. Only needed Motte out there and it would have been all 5 ex-CHI.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Yesterday @ 7:50 PM ET
Lotta pace, skill and speed in the 1st period. ... Very pleasing to the eye and fun to watch as a fan. No question the Hawks are playing a modern style with the Dmen allowed/encouraged to jump in and once I saw two Hawks below the endline forechecking.

Hopefully a bought into forecheck becomes a staple of the club and it fits the speed KD drafts like a glove.

Two games in a row I saw Bedard below both endlines in the same shift. Kid is making little plays in the Dzone and helping get the thing out. .... Notice he's not 25 ft ahead of any Hawk on the rush? Yep, that's cuz he's playing HOCKEY in his zone and ain't flying the zone with a 35 ft head start.

Even those who think Bedard ain't all that, or a bust even, can't deny his last two games playing 200 ft of the ice.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Yesterday @ 7:55 PM ET
Lotta pace, skill and speed in the 1st period. ... Very pleasing to the eye and fun to watch as a fan. No question the Hawks are playing a modern style with the Dmen allowed/encouraged to jump in and once I saw two Hawks below the endline forechecking.

Hopefully a bought into forecheck becomes a staple of the club and it fits the speed KD drafts like a glove.

Two games in a row I saw Bedard below both endlines in the same shift. Kid is making little plays in the Dzone and helping get the thing out. .... Notice he's not 25 ft ahead of any Hawk on the rush? Yep, that's cuz he's playing HOCKEY in his zone and ain't flying the zone with a 35 ft head start.

Even those who think Bedard ain't all that, or a bust even, can't deny his last two games playing 200 ft of the ice.

- Mr Ricochet


And he’s skating/moving his feet more instead of those big gliding turns lol. He’s learning shorter shifts with more energy. Imagine when he gets a real goal scorer on his wing.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Yesterday @ 7:57 PM ET
At some point do we reach a board consensus that Bedard is a better passer/play maker than goal scorer? Even though he’s got a wicked shot.

Paulr said he’s Gretzky like seeing the game. Kinda makes sense. That pass to Donato was niceeee

- bhawks2241


No! To my eye Bedard has the greatest shot ever and once he figures out how and where to get it off in the NHL the kid will flirt with the league leader in goals every yaer.

But, if he had a Demidov on his line for instance he might put up 100 assists. ... That shot is beyond rare. He'll get it. That shot cannot be denied and once the kid is a grizzled 5 yr vet at 23 we'll all see how rare his shot/scoring IQ is!!.... Kid has decided the last 2 games he's gonna see what this playing 200 ft is all about and the film he'll watch looks good. ... Rome wasn't built in a day.
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