So all we get is a 3rd for Hall and retaining half of Ratys contract, common KD that's weak.
- BetweenTheDots

Yeah, really weak for a trade we didn't need to make.

I was hoping to bring Necas here.
- BetweenTheDots

Tough loss ,some terrible puck luck .Could the HAWKS end up with Rantanen in the long run ?

Tough loss ,some terrible puck luck .Could the HAWKS end up with Rantanen in the long run ?
- oldduffman

Assuming Carolina doesn’t lock him up I suspect he’ll want to sign with a contender.

Yeah, really weak for a trade we didn't need to make.
- rpeters01

Not really. We got to salary dump Hall, get $1.4 mil cap space, a 3rd round pick, and an open roster spot. If Hall wasn't included we probably would have got more. Nils was to balance salaries.

And we get the $4.6 mil back at the end of the year

Tough loss ,some terrible puck luck .Could the HAWKS end up with Rantanen in the long run ?
- oldduffman

They missed more than a handful of grade A chances. Could’ve scored 6. Young guys looked good. That’s the most important thing still.

So looks like we got a 3rd and Nils Juntorp, former 6th round pick out of Sweden in the deal.

https://www.eliteprospect...layer/399861/nils-juntorp
- breadbag

A Blackhawk draftee 2022 round 6 #188 overall (by Chicago Blackhawks)

I am not sure which team has his playing rights.

A Blackhawk draftee 2022 round 6 #188 overall (by Chicago Blackhawks)

I am not sure which team has his playing rights.
- wiz1901

I heard he was passed to Col who sent him to the Canes. He wasn't under contract so he is much like the guy traded for Fleury.

A Blackhawk draftee 2022 round 6 #188 overall (by Chicago Blackhawks)

I am not sure which team has his playing rights.
- wiz1901

So the trade is, if I understand it:

To CAR:
Rantanen
Hall
Juntorp

To CHI:
2025 3rd (Chicago pick returned from Carolina)
CHI retains half on Rantanen

To COL:
Necas
Drury
2025 2nd
2026 4th

Juntorp doesn't look like a prospect that would be signed. Maybe he was in there just to avoid the 'future considerations' thing. A few years ago, CHI sent a drafted player (Haakarainen) to Vegas for Fleury, then Vegas released him immediately and I think he went back to Europe.

I guess CHI is not retaining anything on Hall, so there is a retention spot left to use in another trade.

The CHI 3rd is almost a second and maybe it can be used to move some other pick up a few spots at the draft (not sure CHI needs to make 9 picks this draft).

Edit: wizard beat me to it....

The 3rd coming back is the CHI pick, so CHI has their original 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for 2025 now. Cue the speculation on RFA offer sheets.

Guess that would only apply to a low offer sheet as they won't be using a top 5 pick in an offer sheet.

So the trade is, if I understand it:

To CAR:
Rantanen
Hall
Juntorp

To CHI:
2025 3rd (Chicago pick returned from Carolina)
CHI retains half on Rantanen

To COL:
Necas
Drury
2025 2nd
2026 4th

Juntorp doesn't look like a prospect that would be signed. Maybe he was in there just to avoid the 'future considerations' thing. A few years ago, CHI sent a drafted player (Haakarainen) to Vegas for Fleury, then Vegas released him immediately and I think he went back to Europe.

I guess CHI is not retaining anything on Hall, so there is a retention spot left to use in another trade.

The CHI 3rd is almost a second and maybe it can be used to move some other pick up a few spots at the draft (not sure CHI needs to make 9 picks this draft).

Edit: wizard beat me to it....
- totem

No prob, you're so much more involved in this than me and awesome job in putting this all together. Thanks.
I see this as a rare win/win/win. Canes got their game breaker, Avs got depth, and we got rid of an antique to bring up Slaggert. Hall didn't seem to be worth too much on the market.

The 3rd coming back is the CHI pick, so CHI has their original 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for 2025 now. Cue the speculation on RFA offer sheets.
- totem

Offer sheets at this point would be 2026 picks. I thought the same thing until I was informed on this

Assuming Carolina doesn’t lock him up I suspect he’ll want to sign with a contender.
- paulr

Carolina has zero leverage and they just gave up Necas who's on a sweet bridge deal. They will have a lot of cap space in the offseason so we shall see.

So all we get is a 3rd for Hall and retaining half of Ratys contract, common KD that's weak.
- BetweenTheDots

It is and for those saying "but but but it's a high 3rd round draft pick!" - yes it is, however it's in an extremely weak draft year. 5 picks in the first 68ish picks. Say they trade their 55ish pick (Dallas 2nd) and their reobtained "high 3rd" to move up, they'd only move up to around #43 in a fair trade up if you use a draft pick trade value chart. I could see him adding this 3rd pick with a soon-to-be-traded vet to add value like Maroon + 3rd for a team's mid/late 2nd.

Posthumous honor for Tony Espositio:
https://www.uppermichigan...awarded-university-honor/

And an open roster spot for a forward - and moving on someone who was not going to be re-signed. I dunno - does it matter? Yeh it would have been nice to have gotten more- maybe they would have had they not shipped Hall anywhere?
- SC116

Powers column this am echoes some of your thoughts.

Asking for one of the team’s NHL players wouldn’t have made much sense. The Blackhawks’ motivation to move Hall was largely to open up a roster spot. With Ryan Greene, Oliver Moore and Sam Rinzel likely to turn pro after their college seasons, Davidson knows he needs a few NHL roster spots to give them ice time at the end of the season. Especially with Greene, who is a college junior, the Blackhawks want to ensure him there is an NHL path for him now and in the future. Creating that roster spot now instead of holding off to see what might happen probably wasn’t worth it for Davidson. Whatever he might have given up by not waiting isn’t likely significant enough to cause much regret in the long run.

There will likely be more immediate pressure on Davidson, and every aspect of his trades can be dissected. The Blackhawks aren’t there yet. It’s about the major details, not the minor ones, as the rebuild moves forward. From the Blackhawks’ perspective, Greene’s, Moore’s and Rinzel’s futures are more important than anything else in Friday’s three-way blockbuster trade. Davidson accomplished what was important to him Friday.

https://www.nytimes.com/a...nche-hurricanes-rantanen/

I feel the same way, i don't understand our part in this trade. They give the the Blackhawks a F.

On a side note is this why they went with Tulsty, is he going to pony up the $14 mil per for 8 years? I know this is the cost of business today in the NHL but this signing would be against the grain for this org.

What else will be interesting is if Raty can perform at the same level without the dynamic MacKinnon centering for him.

The Hockey News absolutely fried KFC on the Hall trade. Trading just Hall should have netted them a third. Retaining money should have bumped it up to a second, according to Hockey News. I have to agree. KFC is not great when it comes to trades.

I heard he was passed to Col who sent him to the Canes. He wasn't under contract so he is much like the guy traded for Fleury.
- wizardofi

Yeah the broker team involves a body going all three ways...so that must be it.

The Hockey News absolutely fried KFC on the Hall trade. Trading just Hall should have netted them a third. Retaining money should have bumped it up to a second, according to Hockey News. I have to agree. KFC is not great when it comes to trades.
- bjphawkfan

and I fry the hockey new draft issue each year.
Click click.
The hawks paid 2million to get discard Hall and reouped the Jack Pridham trade chip the traded that returned early three.

I read "weak draft" above.

In all years in the modern draft era has the ever been a draft so weak that an early third or a late second cannot be selects and successful. (Sure I have seen the draft graph signifying success as an NHLer.)

Last year, Kyle from Chicago used picks to trade up for players the designated and didn't want to lose out on.

I am going to bet that if Martinez gets launched at the deadline, it will be in a future draft year.

This all makes sense to me, and don't see inequity in the deal.

and to move on so I can go play elsewhere, Jones is not getting move just yet.
No contender can afford that add, and teams that have need for a "defender as skilled as he is" until they are doing their summer shopping list. IF jones wants to leave, he will be granted his wish, but until all our eyers see the kids as better in all phsses, simply don't see it.

Until the defense kids can ACTUALLY show they can out skill him in play he stays and Martinez, Brodie next yr, Murphy next yr. And until RD Artie Levshunov and Hobey Baker candidate RD Sam Rinzel prove they can man the right sside along with Louie Crevier (or with LhRd Nolan), they then can send whomever is the surplus defender from Alex Vlasic, Nolan, Kaiser, even Korchinski (especially if the draft bps and select LD Matthew Schaefer #1, because this kid projects as a true #1 (Artie 1-A) and KK sets in a similar possible pay bracket as the Power play point man…so expect, Kaiser, KK and Jones to be trading chips in that order.
Not equal in value, but it seems the most natural consequence.

So basically the they bought the 2025 pick they selected Jack Pridham with for the money they are paying Mikko Rantanen until the season';s end.

On the flip side Spellacy gets an ELC, I'm loving all the 18-20 year olds entering the system, probably get 3-5 kids in the fold at the end of their college season.

I like the speed they are playing with at the pro level and these kids coming have it.

The Hockey News absolutely fried KFC on the Hall trade. Trading just Hall should have netted them a third. Retaining money should have bumped it up to a second, according to Hockey News. I have to agree. KFC is not great when it comes to trades.
- bjphawkfan

KFC has proven he’s able to stock up on draft picks and prospects. So far I’m not remotely impressed with his trades. Lamoriello made KD look like a rookie GM by swapping firsts, for a second, especially considering how close the picks were together and that it’s entirely possible Boisvert, if that’s who KD was targeting. That trade should have been made on draft day. Basically Lamoriello walked away with a second round pick. Yesterday’s Hall trade didn’t seem to make sense especially considering KD retained money. I’ve been solidly behind KD up to this point but I think he needs some help or mentoring when he’s making trades. The last two aspects of his job are knowing the value of the players and awarding contracts. I hope he’s better there than is trading players.

The Hockey News absolutely fried KFC on the Hall trade. Trading just Hall should have netted them a third. Retaining money should have bumped it up to a second, according to Hockey News. I have to agree. KFC is not great when it comes to trades.
- bjphawkfan

Hall was playing 4th line on the Hawks. He’s not particularly adept defensively, and was nothing to shout about offensively. Most of his value at this point is due to his name. He reminds me of Skinner. Good in theory, not so much in practice.

Any teeth gnashing about this trade is wasted energy. The Hawks were never going to get anything more than a 3rd for him in any situation.

On the flip side Spellacy gets an ELC, I'm loving all the 18-20 year olds entering the system, probably get 3-5 kids in the fold at the end of their college season.

I like the speed they are playing with at the pro level and these kids coming have it.
- BetweenTheDots

I think both Pridham and Spellacy might have been unsure if the college or minor pro, bur Prindham is commited to BU.

When you have 4 kids in the Hobey Baker contention, they obvious have the chops to contend for eventual pro line-ups.

Aidan Thompson is older so he is going to challenging for a pro spot sooner than later.
Sam Rinzel is going start after a NHL taste at the season's end in Rockford if he signs after the college season too, also inot Rockford next year.
Ryan Greene will be the closest to a NHL prospect they sign and if he makes the most of his April premeire, who knows?
Sacha Boivert probably returns to North Dakota targeting a Spring 2026 signing.

Of course, the GM is looking to trade any vets he can to start a roster turn over with continued youth at forward.

IF the Blackhawks planning to try and revisit past draft selected first rounders and trade for one of them, one who I would start aski g about is sniper Brayden Yager who Penquins drafted but sent to the Jets in the Rutger McGroarty trade.
Every since I saw him at the Brick for a Saskatchewan / Regina pats farm I have liked his offensive ability and smarts positioning.
He isn't big but so quick to diagnose and determine things and act as a generator, and the Bedard World Junior U-20 was an example. I think IF you can send the Jets a large contract down the road, I would be so inclined despite the glut of possible talent they have already selected.
But the Hawks probably aren't looking for more unprovens now.

Hall was playing 4th line on the Hawks. He’s not particularly adept defensively, and was nothing to shout about offensively. Most of his value at this point is due to his name. He reminds me of Skinner. Good in theory, not so much in practice.

Any teeth gnashing about this trade is wasted energy. The Hawks were never going to get anything more than a 3rd for him in any situation.
- Chunk

Probably not but why retain salary? Trade him for a broken stick, a roll of tape and a power bar.

Unless … KD is thinking of an offer sheet?

Hall was playing 4th line on the Hawks. He’s not particularly adept defensively, and was nothing to shout about offensively. Most of his value at this point is due to his name. He reminds me of Skinner. Good in theory, not so much in practice.

Any teeth gnashing about this trade is wasted energy. The Hawks were never going to get anything more than a 3rd for him in any situation.
- Chunk

Agree. Bamford in Bleacher Nation teed it up pretty similarly...

You’re trading Taylor Hall for a third round pick. You aren’t a cap ceiling team. Your options are:

Retain $3.0M in cap space, receive a pick between Nos. 85-96 in the 2025 NHL Draft

Retain $4.625M in cap space, receive a pick between Nos. 65-67 in the 2025 NHL Draft.