One last ditch hope to deal AA at the deadline?
- 333inthe3rd

Doubt it with that contract lol.

One last ditch hope to deal AA at the deadline?
- 333inthe3rd

Fingers crossed to deal ANYONE on this roster not named Bedard Nazar Dach Slaggert Vlassic Kaiser Allan Del Mastro

Anyone else is open season and avoid retaining at all costs.

Locker-room is beyond toxic. Jones comes out and destroys them and they quit in period 1 and get a train run on them. No fight. NO pushback. Losing 1 on 2 battles. Taking dumb, selfish penalties. Likely had a come to Jesus meeting in intermission 1 and pushback enough to scare Vegas but with an pea shooter of a roster they have no chance.

Really....DaBears post was correct. Front office was rated very low per agents and that gets around and impacts signings (Maybe Guentzel) and a direct reflection on what is going on here.

If I were Danny Wirtz I would be having some SERIOUS conversations with that idiot Faulkner and Davidson about where this is going.....because I don't see a light right now coming out of the depths. You have have a raging @sshole in Jones forcing his way out, still wearing a letter, and right now it's 100% addition by subtraction with him.....and your other veteran leaders? How many postgame interviews are we going to get with the same crap being said by Foligno or Murphy and nothing changes. Again, you can try to lead, but if nobody follows that's an indictment 100x worse.

I thought last year was rock bottom....I was wrong, and not 1 person here can say that this year's is because at this point.....there is not much to be excited about.

part of me hopes Bedard gets a very minor injury and needs to sit out. That kid's mental breaking point is being tested unlike something Kane or Toews NEVER had to with the start to his career and not much to fall back on to keep him positive. Kid is being left out to dry and if this idiotic organization ruins him by allowing Davidson/Faulkner to continue to call the shots....then everything good Rocky did will be ruined by his son and we are very much back in the early 2000s.....

Just awful. i watch to hope to see young kids improve but for all the good Nazar does, I see Vlassic regressing badly and it just sucks. Led by a mickey mouse coach.

Doubt it with that contract lol.
- rpeters01

his last year.....

Just waive the turds. Each and every one of them. Terminate the contracts. KDs job to get to the cap floor, so go do it but holding on to a complete and total d-ck in Jones to be floor compliant while p-sses in the pool and ruins young kids.....yeah, not here for that.

Davidson and his staff love to leak stories to the media of all the "would haves"....trading back up to get the Russian kid at the draft, going hard after Guentzel, etc......results matter......

I'd love to hear what hockey trade this guy has made? Please somebody enlighten me. What trade has he made to give him longer rope? What UFA has he signed that has been "good" not even above average or great....just good?

Oh he can compile picks and maybe draft which makes him a great scout.

And all this being done underneath another Cubs castoff in Faulkner who apparently the Wirtz family must be enamored with the Cubs organization. Maybe Crain Kenney is coming here next?

All for Kaiser being called up and indifferent on AA, but why the hell is Allan being sent down while this organization continues to employ TJ Brodie AND play him? What can a kid do that is worse than Brodie? I dont think its possible.

The fact Brodie hasn't been put on waivers to make way to get a young kid NEEDED NHL experience playing 12+ minutes a night is a direct reflection on how inept Davidson is. Waive him, send him down, and wait for his agent to come crying and then terminate his deal.
- SteveRain

I really like Allan, always have and I think he has a future in the NHL. However, to me, he has been our least effective Dman since the calendar hit 2025. I'm okay with him getting more minutes in Rockford and working on his game with less pressure.

I'll add, it's not just me saying it, the numbers support this very strongly. He doesn't look ready the last couple months.

We were the worst organization ever in any league in the 2000s when dollar bill was running the show. By the end of the decade we won a SC.

If you are referring to the agents poll, they always pick a winner except for Carolina, hahaha.

This is what a gut rebuild looks like, it's not that they aren't willing to spend, they don't want to over spend for trash. Went from bottom 3 to top 3 minor league system in 3 years. Developing guys at different pro levels right now. In line for another top 4 pick which is actually a good thing in a rebuild. It's a weird concept but you want to be the worst so you can draft the best players in the world.

Many people have short memories, i remember the days when Toronto, Florida, TB, Edmonton, Dallas were trash franchises.


It'll be interesting to see how Boston, Pittsburgh, Rags do now that their teams have hit the wall age wise. Nashville went on a winning streak last year and that fool went out and signed a bunch of old declining players to stupid contracts and now that franchise is handcuffed.
- BetweenTheDots

All due respect I don't care what Boston NYR or Pitts does. Not a fan and not in the west.

A full on rebuilding takes time but hanging around the bottom 3 years in a row.....nah.....there should be some slow movement upwards.

And leaving your most prized asset to sit and be forced to drag around shells of former top 6 players, and turds who can't even sniff his hockey IQ is preparing to fail which is 100% on Davidson and really....could very much lead to some hard habits for 98 to break when he does get a linemate who is a legit top 3 F.....that's the main problem here. 2/3 of his ELC wasted.....and people in media question if he's good but dont' equate that every time he steps on the ice he has no less than 2 or 3 guys hovered around him because there isn't a single threat for the next 40 seconds on that ice except Bedard to worry about.

For that above....I would $hit can Davidson today but they won't.

I just hope that kid has a strong inner circle because his frustration level has to be at an all time high...and if you want to talk realistic....who's to say he will sign a 8 year deal starting in July when he can be extended? Hawks would love that, but I'll be floored if Bedard's camp will....maybe 4-5 tops and see if the hawks can get him people to play with to match his LT ceiling? I can't see him making a LT commitment to this team right now.....not with how this relationship started thanks to the coaches he has had and talent.

And I'm sure I'm 100% wrong but since the lockout find me a top player who's had a worst supporting cast to begin his career. I am having a VERY hard time thinking of one......has to be one out there, and if not.....that last paragraph I promise you his agent is very well aware of and if not, Bedard will have a new one very soon.

Fingers crossed to deal ANYONE on this roster not named Bedard Nazar Dach Slaggert Vlassic Kaiser Allan Del Mastro

Anyone else is open season and avoid retaining at all costs.

Locker-room is beyond toxic. Jones comes out and destroys them and they quit in period 1 and get a train run on them. No fight. NO pushback. Losing 1 on 2 battles. Taking dumb, selfish penalties. Likely had a come to Jesus meeting in intermission 1 and pushback enough to scare Vegas but with an pea shooter of a roster they have no chance.

Really....DaBears post was correct. Front office was rated very low per agents and that gets around and impacts signings (Maybe Guentzel) and a direct reflection on what is going on here.

If I were Danny Wirtz I would be having some SERIOUS conversations with that idiot Faulkner and Davidson about where this is going.....because I don't see a light right now coming out of the depths. You have have a raging @sshole in Jones forcing his way out, still wearing a letter, and right now it's 100% addition by subtraction with him.....and your other veteran leaders? How many postgame interviews are we going to get with the same crap being said by Foligno or Murphy and nothing changes. Again, you can try to lead, but if nobody follows that's an indictment 100x worse.

I thought last year was rock bottom....I was wrong, and not 1 person here can say that this year's is because at this point.....there is not much to be excited about.

part of me hopes Bedard gets a very minor injury and needs to sit out. That kid's mental breaking point is being tested unlike something Kane or Toews NEVER had to with the start to his career and not much to fall back on to keep him positive. Kid is being left out to dry and if this idiotic organization ruins him by allowing Davidson/Faulkner to continue to call the shots....then everything good Rocky did will be ruined by his son and we are very much back in the early 2000s.....

Just awful. i watch to hope to see young kids improve but for all the good Nazar does, I see Vlassic regressing badly and it just sucks. Led by a mickey mouse coach.
- SteveRain

Some of your "no trade guys" may/will have to go to get something back.

I really like Allan, always have and I think he has a future in the NHL. However, to me, he has been our least effective Dman since the calendar hit 2025. I'm okay with him getting more minutes in Rockford and working on his game with less pressure.

I'll add, it's not just me saying it, the numbers support this very strongly. He doesn't look ready the last couple months.
- breadbag

And what point does going back to Rockford really help vs first hand experience? Again.....they suck, they aren't winning....would rather play all kids at this point remaining last 20 games then seeing TJ Brodie turn it over, fall down, and repeat over and over and over and over again. Young kids have an excuse...learning...Brodie doesn't...and whatever scout told Davidson to sign him should be canned. I mean this guy makes Timonnen in 2015 look like Cale Makar

Some of your "no trade guys" may/will have to go to get something back.
- rpeters01

Pretty deep defensively wise.....they should know who is trending in the right direction.

Key is THEY SHOULD know......

Just not high on this coaching staff/hockey ops/pres at this point. They can pimp 100 years celebration all they want. THey can call me everyday and try slam tactics to make me think it's 2010 and demand is through the roof....wont' work. Games I want to go to, and I do go, I will easily find tickets....but this organization needs an ego check in the worst way possible.

You want to attract more people....then arm Bedard with talent so if they lose 5-2 at least people walk out saying "Bedard had a goal" like idiot Cubs fans would with their beanie babies and Sammy Sosa hrs.

OMG! no one likes the Hawks!

*ses they are grouped with 15 teams as having one vote*

OVERREACTS!!!

OMG! no one likes the Hawks!

*ses they are grouped with 15 teams as having one vote*

OVERREACTS!!!


- Elbows15

Because the results on ice 100% a long leash for current management......

Allan needs to go down and play if nothing else. Only a matter of time before Martinez or Murphy are hurt again.


Glad AA is back. Maybe one of the glue brothers will sit. Giving either Kurashev or Reichel a chance to play with someon who can be in the same time zone as them

Because the results on ice 100% a long leash for current management......
- SteveRain

the list was much ado about nothing. Did you expect a playoff team 2 seasons after a complete tear down?

They are only two of KD's pick at the NHL level. I would call it more incomplete than anything.

You're drafting 18 year olds. They need time to get to the NHL in like 98% of the cases.

Brodie is the only terrible signing, imo. TT and Bert are playing to what they are. Well, unless you expected them to pop 60-70 points.

Now. Does he need to make a good choice for a coach for next season. He sure does. This is a big off-season for him.

Nazar and Gavin Hayes
- vabeachbear

the list was much ado about nothing. Did you expect a playoff team 2 seasons after a complete tear down?

They are only two of KD's pick at the NHL level. I would call it more incomplete than anything.

You're drafting 18 year olds. They need time to get to the NHL in like 98% of the cases.

Brodie is the only terrible signing, imo. TT and Bert are playing to what they are. Well, unless you expected them to pop 60-70 points.

Now. Does he need to make a good choice for a coach for next season. He sure does. This is a big off-season for him.
- Elbows15

No...I didn't expect playoffs year 3. I am not a moron.

I am GRAVELY concerned the impact this year especially is going to have on 98 ST and LT. I have posted why.

Brodie is awful. Martinez is a disaster when paired with Jones as they can't exit a zone. AA was his signing and he's been a disaster. SO there is just more than just Brodie and the fact he still plays, let alone hasn't been waived to terminate is just mind numbing. It's March tomorrow. They have 20+ games left. I'd rather see an Allan learn on the fly then watch Brodie or Murphy or Martinez or Jones give zero Fs and leave Mrazek and Soderbloom out to dry.

You are right...he has to hire the right coach and make some head waves here with legit hockey trades...how many more prospects do we need vs NHL ready young players so nobody here has to watch Maroon lumber up and down the ice? Think we need to see more of the younger kids vs overpaying for crap. You want to overpay> Go get an elite F to skate with 98.

But no, my confidence in KD is minimal at best. He's proven he can acquire draft picks. That's about it...

I know it doesn't fit the doom and gloom vibe, but if you look at the roster last year compared to this year, the team is making progress. Young players are playing more minutes this season than last. When injuries happened last year a lot of the holes were plugged with scrap parts who weren't even "hasbeens"

Yeah, we are struggling and probably looking like we will finish about 10-15 points below reasonable expectations, but just playing all kids isn't the answer. They can not just hand roster spots to guys who are young, they have to actually earn it.

Going back to Allan, if he is struggling like he was right now, you don't just say, well that's okay, just get experience. No. You challenge him to step it up and use ice time as the carrot. They aren't trying to develop TJ Brodie or any of the vets, those guys can get shelled and take the heat, but they have to shelter the young guys when appropriate. Rockford is a useful place for guys to play too and play more minutes with less pressure on top of them. It also gives them something to work towards. I really like Allan, but let's be honest, he probably wouldn't be playing on most teams around the NHL right now. He is only in his second year pro and his first NHL season.

Fingers crossed to deal ANYONE on this roster not named Bedard Nazar Dach Slaggert Vlassic Kaiser Allan Del Mastro

Anyone else is open season and avoid retaining at all costs.

Locker-room is beyond toxic. Jones comes out and destroys them and they quit in period 1 and get a train run on them. No fight. NO pushback. Losing 1 on 2 battles. Taking dumb, selfish penalties. Likely had a come to Jesus meeting in intermission 1 and pushback enough to scare Vegas but with an pea shooter of a roster they have no chance.

Really....DaBears post was correct. Front office was rated very low per agents and that gets around and impacts signings (Maybe Guentzel) and a direct reflection on what is going on here. KD is not a NHL GM , scout yes .

If I were Danny Wirtz I would be having some SERIOUS conversations with that idiot Faulkner and Davidson about where this is going.....because I don't see a light right now coming out of the depths. You have have a raging @sshole in Jones forcing his way out, still wearing a letter, and right now it's 100% addition by subtraction with him.....and your other veteran leaders? How many postgame interviews are we going to get with the same crap being said by Foligno or Murphy and nothing changes. Again, you can try to lead, but if nobody follows that's an indictment 100x worse.

I thought last year was rock bottom....I was wrong, and not 1 person here can say that this year's is because at this point.....there is not much to be excited about.

part of me hopes Bedard gets a very minor injury and needs to sit out. That kid's mental breaking point is being tested unlike something Kane or Toews NEVER had to with the start to his career and not much to fall back on to keep him positive. Kid is being left out to dry and if this idiotic organization ruins him by allowing Davidson/Faulkner to continue to call the shots....then everything good Rocky did will be ruined by his son and we are very much back in the early 2000s.....

Just awful. i watch to hope to see young kids improve but for all the good Nazar does, I see Vlassic regressing badly and it just sucks. Led by a mickey mouse coach.
- SteveRain

I believe it's really even deeper, and a ownership change is needed .And fast . You are correct all the good Rocky brought to this teem is being ruined .
.

Damn, Kirby shelved again with knee surgery.

No...I didn't expect playoffs year 3. I am not a moron.

I am GRAVELY concerned the impact this year especially is going to have on 98 ST and LT. I have posted why.

Brodie is awful. Martinez is a disaster when paired with Jones as they can't exit a zone. AA was his signing and he's been a disaster. SO there is just more than just Brodie and the fact he still plays, let alone hasn't been waived to terminate is just mind numbing. It's March tomorrow. They have 20+ games left. I'd rather see an Allan learn on the fly then watch Brodie or Murphy or Martinez or Jones give zero Fs and leave Mrazek and Soderbloom out to dry.

You are right...he has to hire the right coach and make some head waves here with legit hockey trades...how many more prospects do we need vs NHL ready young players so nobody here has to watch Maroon lumber up and down the ice? Think we need to see more of the younger kids vs overpaying for crap. You want to overpay> Go get an elite F to skate with 98.

But no, my confidence in KD is minimal at best. He's proven he can acquire draft picks. That's about it...
- SteveRain

You can hate Murphy all you want but to say he doesn't give a F is just plain wrong. Brodie, too. Brodie cares, imo. He just can't do it anymore.

Who is trading an elite young forward? Yes. Draft picks are exactly what he needed to do to this point. He needed to build assets to get to a position to trade if he desires. Where do NHL ready players come from? Prospects. We will see what happens this summer. I will be patient for a bit longer.

If losing messes with CB, then he isn't half the player I think he is.

I know it doesn't fit the doom and gloom vibe, but if you look at the roster last year compared to this year, the team is making progress. Young players are playing more minutes this season than last. When injuries happened last year a lot of the holes were plugged with scrap parts who weren't even "hasbeens"

Yeah, we are struggling and probably looking like we will finish about 10-15 points below reasonable expectations, but just playing all kids isn't the answer. They can not just hand roster spots to guys who are young, they have to actually earn it.

Going back to Allan, if he is struggling like he was right now, you don't just say, well that's okay, just get experience. No. You challenge him to step it up and use ice time as the carrot. They aren't trying to develop TJ Brodie or any of the vets, those guys can get shelled and take the heat, but they have to shelter the young guys when appropriate. Rockford is a useful place for guys to play too and play more minutes with less pressure on top of them. It also gives them something to work towards. I really like Allan, but let's be honest, he probably wouldn't be playing on most teams around the NHL right now. He is only in his second year pro and his first NHL season.
- breadbag

Why do the young kids have to “earn” it but the vets don’t? Why are vets not held accountable when they make the same mistakes as the young guys? The vets are supposed to teach and mentor the young guys. Instead they play half a** hockey and often make more mistakes than the young guys.

Rockford is bad. Guys get shelled down at Rockford regularly.

The point of tanking and rebuilding is to play the kids with no expectation of winning.

Keith and Seabs have to earn it? No. They were tossed into the fire and had to learn on the job. They were awful the first couple of years. Should the Hawks have gone out and played washed vets instead of letting a young Keith and Seabs learn at the NHL level?

Did Seabs even play in the AHL?

I think that probably centers around the fact he claimed the team was going to be better this year and win more games. Those were his stated objectives for this year. He has at least 2 times, that we know of, gone and lit into the team for not winning more games/effort.

It appears he significantly overvalued the talent on the roster. Instead of taking any responsibility for that he fired a coach for under performing, along with ripping into the player at least twice. I have not heard him once say we need to do better as a front office. Zero accountability from the front office this season with respect to the on ice product.

Idk about other posters but that would certainly rub me the wrong way if I was a player on the team.
- bhawks2241

Lacking some accountability at least is a fair criticism of KFC vs simply saying he has no idea what he’s doing.

He’s also a pretty young GM who you would hope would have the capacity/self awareness to learn from mistakes and course correct.

He may have overvalued the product he assembled but he’s also well within his lane to rip into the team for the la-dee-da effort given on some nights. Pretty sure those guys are cashing all their checks and he’s still the boss.

Now whether he wants to make a habit of this to the point players tune him out, that’s a different story.

All for Kaiser being called up and indifferent on AA, but why the hell is Allan being sent down while this organization continues to employ TJ Brodie AND play him? What can a kid do that is worse than Brodie? I dont think its possible.

The fact Brodie hasn't been put on waivers to make way to get a young kid NEEDED NHL experience playing 12+ minutes a night is a direct reflection on how inept Davidson is. Waive him, send him down, and wait for his agent to come crying and then terminate his deal.
- SteveRain

Powers wrote about that today and while Allan hasn’t been great you’re correct, he’s still better than Brodie.

Gist of the article was basically…play the kids.

You can hate Murphy all you want but to say he doesn't give a F is just plain wrong. Brodie, too. Brodie cares, imo. He just can't do it anymore.

Who is trading an elite young forward? Yes. Draft picks are exactly what he needed to do to this point. He needed to build assets to get to a position to trade if he desires. Where do NHL ready players come from? Prospects. We will see what happens this summer. I will be patient for a bit longer.

If losing messes with CB, then he isn't half the player I think he is.
- Elbows15

Eh, agree to disagree. If they cared the effort would be there, the same stupid mistakes wouldn't be happening. Brodie on the downside of his career and a rapidly declining asset....bad miss by KD. Just cut your losses.

Murphy? Same thing with this guy since he got here. They dont' win because of him and they do lose because of him. How many times are we going to watch him go take a run at a guy with his head down and get put of position? Did it again last night and that's before he misses and blows himself up and ends up sitting in a dark room doing cognitive tests for a week. large tell by the organization that they passed up on him AND Jones who both had been here longer, and voices in that room for a guy after 1 year in Foligno. Jones is a raging @ss hat. We all SHOULD hopefully know that. Sure Murphy is a swell guy but as a leader and hockey player he's Maybe some team comes calling looking for a 5th-6th guy who can spot play a 4th D man minutes in the playoffs as those guys are usually worth their weight in gold this time of year.

They are on pace for 57 points. 3 straight years of sub 60 points. They should land a top 4 pick and guarantee themselves a Misa/Martone/Hagens. God willing that's another elite F....you have excess 2nd round picks and another 1st....figure it out to make a trade for high end NHL ready F. That's KD job, not mine....and so far he's got an F for hockey trades.

If the ask back on Jones is NHL ready Fs, that's a step in the right direction. They'll never have all kids....but to keep patchworking these vets on fumes I'm over with...Richardson trying to validate lineups for a chance at coaching again? Sure....Sorrenson? Nope.

You can hate Murphy all you want but to say he doesn't give a F is just plain wrong. Brodie, too. Brodie cares, imo. He just can't do it anymore.

Who is trading an elite young forward? Yes. Draft picks are exactly what he needed to do to this point. He needed to build assets to get to a position to trade if he desires. Where do NHL ready players come from? Prospects. We will see what happens this summer. I will be patient for a bit longer.

If losing messes with CB, then he isn't half the player I think he is.
- Elbows15

Agree. While I’m sure he’s frustrated it sounds like he keeps tabs on what is going on with the other Hawk prospects and sees some potentially brighter days ahead.

Powers wrote about that today and while Allan hasn’t been great you’re correct, he’s still better than Brodie.

Gist of the article was basically…play the kids.
- HawkintheD

And this isn't game 1....you are in the final stretch. Is a 20 game push going to make or break a guys career? I would hope not. Shield them for a full season? Ok....but what is playing 2nd pair minutes in the ROCK going to do vs playing 2nd or 3rd pairing minutes up here? Especially if they can launch Murphy and/or Jones. They do both, you wont' see me for awhile as I'll be on a permanent bender in celebration.

And I saw somebody else brought it up and I 100% agree with it.....

So it's OK for Brodie or Murphy or Martinez or Jones to continue to make idiotic mistakes shift after shift, game after game, but the younger guys have to prove it or else are sent to the Rock? Shouldnt those veterans get their ice time cut? What example are you sending younger kids....all because the GM forced fed vets coach has to play them? How does that help the ST and LT growth of this team? I don't see it.

Brodie should have been waived yesterday.
Martinez will stay for the remainder as Davidson apparently made that verbal assurance when they signed him.
Murphy/Jones...maybe get dealt. 1 hopefully is LONG gone by camp in the fall.

They were OK signings. Neither are top 6 players. If you could go back in time would you like to see them signed again? I sure wouldn’t. And the Vlasic signing was excellent. If KD wants to keep his job he has to make the team significantly better next season and to do that requires trades and free agent signings. If he doesn’t I’m afraid he’s done.
- paulr

The 2 signings have term and a fair dollar amount for effective NHL forwards. I've said it before and I'll say it again look at that Skjei deal, you want to destroy a rebuild that's a terrible contract for a significantly declining player. I read what breadbag wrote about Bertuzzi and TT, and i agree with a lot of it

I know this is an unpopular opinion here but many here are all about instant gratification, so they rip everyone and every thing about the org. I'm glad that KD isn't throwing money away and frustrating the agents and not driving contracts up.

I agree with Elbows his next big decision is the coach he brings in.